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Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part V

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Darat said:
Now it's "anything"? Does this mean you agree her stormtroopers won't be kicking down your doors in the middle of the night to grab your guns?
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It means simply as it always has, democrats want to ban and restrict guns. If given the chance they would. Yes its obvious they are blocked from doing so. But she will do it the back door way, with the courts.

While libs are denying what hillary wants to do, they will be cheering the courts when the courts do it. That's because libs are corrupt and dishonest, they always try to hide their true intentions.
 
logger said:
It means simply as it always has, democrats want to ban and restrict guns. If given the chance they would. Yes its obvious they are blocked from doing so. But she will do it the back door way, with the courts.

While libs are denying what hillary wants to do, they will be cheering the courts when the courts do it. That is because libs are corrupt and dishonest, they always try to hide their true intentions.
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They said this about Obama too.
 
logger said:
Remember, obama was blocked.
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Please be specific, when did he attempt to have guns banned? or confiscated? or do you perhaps mean the proposal to stop people on a terrorist watch list from purchasing weapons?
 
Darat said:
No it wouldn't gun control legislation and enactment in countries like the UK is not a left/right issue.
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True, its not a partisan issue here, heck it's not an issue with the public period. There's an overwhelming consensus in favour of the UK's gun laws.
 
logger said:
It means simply as it always has, democrats want to ban and restrict guns. If given the chance they would. Yes its obvious they are blocked from doing so. But she will do it the back door way, with the courts.
While libs are denying what hillary wants to do, they will be cheering the courts when the courts do it. That's because libs are corrupt and dishonest, they always try to hide their true intentions.
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Why will she be able to do this when other democrat presidents haven't?
 
Darat said:
Why will she be able to do this when other democrat presidents haven't?
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This is why this belongs on the CT forum. Point out that parts of the theory don't stand up then rather than altering the claim proponents simply come up with an excuse for why it's still true. I practically guarantee at some point blackmail, murder and 'slush funds' will come up.
 
Garrison said:
Please be specific, when did he attempt to have guns banned? or confiscated? or do you perhaps mean the proposal to stop people on a terrorist watch list from purchasing weapons?
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There has been so many things he has said he wants to do. It would be best for you to google it. And this is a derail of the thread. I'll just put this up but you'll have to look further yourself.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
 
Darat said:
What a ludicrous tweet, lawyers don't ring up out of the blue and tell their clients that the lawyers want to sue!

Mind you this is Trump and given he is ludicrous perhaps his lawyers are retained to scour the earth looking for yet more malicious and/or frivolous lawsuits!
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Lawyers don't call you to sue for torts that don't exist even if you scouring for more malicious and/or frivolous lawsuits. That was a keyboard warrior showing his "restraint." A man with the temperament of a keyboard warrior is a frightening thing to have a President.
 
marplots said:
Not "if", "when".
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This is the one that Obama was entitled to appoint but was disgracefully prevented from doing so by the Republicans, yes?

I really hope that Clinton appoints someone the Republicans find far more objectionable than Obama's perfectly reasonable pick. Ideally Obama himself.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Can we agree the vast majority of people who want to take your guns are Democrats?
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Only if you can show anyone wants to 'take' your guns. Simply show us a statement from any elected representative of the Democratic Party advocating the seizure of weapons or repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Or are you simply lumping all forms of gun control under 'take your guns'?

ETA: make it easier for you. Here's some of the provisions of the 'Brady Bill':

Section 922(g) of the Brady Bill prohibits certain persons from shipping or transporting any firearm in interstate or foreign commerce, or receiving any firearm which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, or possessing any firearm in or affecting commerce. These prohibitions apply to any person who:

1.Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
2.Is a fugitive from justice;
3.Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
4.Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution;
5.Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States;
6.Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
7.Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced U.S. citizenship;
8.Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner, or;
9.Has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence
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which of these groups is being unfairly denied their right to bear arms?
 
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Just wanted to share this. It made me laugh

From CNN:

Dr. Oz is not exactly the blue-ribbon panel that I and other commentators have recommended our chief executive candidates submit their medical records to. He's certainly a duly licensed physician, well regarded at his academic medical center, but his show has rightly come under severe scrutiny for the vital oxygen it channels to quacky health cure-alls, like the green coffee bean.

Dr. Oz's latest bean is orange and shaped like Donald Trump. But unlike some of the other shady sales jobs this most unusual cardiothoracic surgeon has made in the past, this time Dr. Oz pulled it off. I actually sat and watched the whole thing, and I was unexpectedly awed as Mehmet Oz connected with his subject and actually got this frenetic force of nature to calm down and focus for much of the time, rather than rattle off his usual mix of rote campaign attacks and tangential non sequiturs. Dr. Oz earns some journalistic stripes for this feat alone.
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Garrison said:
Only if you can show anyone wants to 'take' your guns. Simply show us a statement from any elected representative of the Democratic Party advocating the seizure of weapons or repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Or are you simply lumping all forms of gun control under 'take your guns'?

ETA: make it easier for you. Here's some of the provisions of the 'Brady Bill':



which of these groups is being unfairly denied their right to bear arms?
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Why elected officials when that wasn't my argument? Why can't I just point you to posts on Democratic underground?
 
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