Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

[Cleon]

Also, it's not a good sign to be getting pneumonia in the first place. It's an indication of a weakened immune system, especially if you get it outside of cold and flu season.

In any case, from the video I saw, she strikes me as more likely having a case of "fainting and dragging" pneumonia than "walking" pneumonia.

Question: is this your political bias posting, or your extensive medical training?

 

[Dr. Keith]

Let me guess, a Russian propaganda site?

I'm reminded of the old joke about Quayle as VP:

While vacationing at Kennebunkport, George Bush Sr. is hit on the head with one of his beloved horseshoes. He slips into a coma. Nine months later, he awakes and President Quayle is standing at his bedside.

“Are we at peace?” Mr. Bush asks.

“Yes. The country is at peace,” says President Quayle.

“What is the unemployment rate?” Mr. Bush asks.

“About 4 percent,” says President Quayle.

“Inflation?” queries Mr. Bush.

“Under control,” says President Quayle.

“Amazing,” says Mr. Bush. “How much does a loaf of bread cost?”

President Quayle scratches his head nervously and says, “About 240 yen.”

Substitute Trump and rubles for Quayle and yen and I think that may be where we are heading.

 

[Childlike Empress]

As usually, the joke is on you. This is the source, Sputnik is the publisher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Epstein

(that's why I posted his postscriptum and CV instead of something from the article - knowing of course that the usual suspects wouldn't be able to resist anyway. Makes it a bit funnier, while of course it is essentially sad given that this is supposed to be a forum promoting critical thinking and now we have been invaded by a political group, likely at least in part paid, who pride themselves with perpetrating the most blatant and primitive fallacies on a daily basis.)

 

[applecorped]

Have we reached Peak pneumonia?

 

[Dog Town]

... a very sexist tactic.

"The sky is falling...the sky is falling..."

 

[Childlike Empress]

I think it is pretty clear who is lying here.

Most amazing is how it's all amnesia but the latest lie, which is gospel truth. Yesterday we all were vulnerable to high temperatures, today we've all once climbed Mount Everest while having pneumonia (and hugging children).

 

[CapelDodger]

ETA: So let's try MORE sarcasm: absolutely! Anyone who's ever even stubbed a toe should be disqualified. We're talking about the leader of the free world, here. He should be perfect in every way (and therefore not a woman.)

Since the result in 2000 and the way that panned out, people have come to demand higher standards of candidate. Well, Democratic candidates at least : they'll take any pile of poo on the Republican ticket because (a) someone has to be on it and (b) that's what you get.

 

[CapelDodger]

Have we reached Peak pneumonia?

We haven't started on multi-resistant TB. What better way to cover it up than "pneumonia", eh?

 

[lionking]

As usually, the joke is on you. This is the source, Sputnik is the publisher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Epstein

(that's why I posted his postscriptum and CV instead of something from the article - knowing of course that the usual suspects wouldn't be able to resist anyway. Makes it a bit funnier, while of course it is essentially sad given that this is supposed to be a forum promoting critical thinking and now we have been invaded by a political group, likely at least in part paid, who pride themselves with perpetrating the most blatant and primitive fallacies on a daily basis.)

A psychologist with a gripe against Google published in a Russian propaganda rag? This is your idea of critical thinking?



Hope I've earned my pay today......

 

[Childlike Empress]

Hope I've earned my pay today......

How would you? Lame attempt at blaming the messenger on top of several layers of discussed ad hominem already? You know that I know that you understand nothing about the topic of the article and I can prove it, while you know that I know a lot about it. Would you get payed, you would certainly not have interfered here. Buy your missy some roses and stay out of ugly propaganda wars you aren't made to take part in.

 

[lionking]

How would you? Lame attempt at blaming the messenger on top of several layers of discussed ad hominem already? You know that I know that you understand nothing about the topic of the article and I can prove it, while you know that I know a lot about it. Would you get payed, you would certainly not have interfered here. Buy your missy some roses and stay out of ugly propaganda wars you aren't made to take part in.

Far from it. I do not accept your word about Google's malfeasance, nor do I accept an angry psychologist. I followed the thread on this topic (it's probably off-topic here) and found subject-matter experts far, far more convincing.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Far from it. I do not accept your word about Google's malfeasance, nor do I accept an angry psychologist. I followed the thread on this topic (it's probably off-topic here) and found subject-matter experts far, far more convincing.

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Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.

 

[ChristianProgressive]

For the sake of the voyeurs?

No, because it's a valid question that has been raised. Her medical history plus recent incidents can andhave lead reasonable persons to suspect her health status.

The simplest way to resolve this situation is by an independent examination by a non-partisan panel of health experts. For fairness sake, the other candidates should also be examined.

This is the way ALL of these types of issues (health, citizenship, etc) should be handled: by investigation and evidence gathering by a neutral party.

Trying to deflect by charging "dirty tricks" or "consipiracy theory" or whatever just increases the impression on the part of the public that there is validity to the charge whether there actually is or not. It makes it look like things are being hidden.

Keep in mind they're both interviewing for the most important job in the nation with some frightening powers and capabilities that go along with the office. There are plenty of jobs with less of all of that for which physicals are required. A clean bill of health absolutely should be a job requirement for President.

Seriously, the vote is between a wholly unqualified reality TV star and a competent well qualified woman. I wouldn't care if she had terminal cancer, it would not make Trump a viable alternative.

That also wouldn't make her a viable candidate. Better to know now (and if necessary for the Dems to replace her) than to wake up one morning with the President incapacitated and having to have the VP take over.

This is all part of Trump's effort to make Clinton look weak, a very sexist tactic.

A medical history is a medical history. He has had a brain injury in the past. She is on certain meds. And her observed behavior (documented on video) raises reasonable doubts.

 

[ChristianProgressive]

It's not that he is a reality TV star, it's not even that he's wholly unqualified (which he is) It's that he's rude, crass, narcissistic, abnoxious, racist, misogynistic, arrogant, reckless and dishonest to the core.

It's not just the qualifications, it's the qualities. It's the type of person he is. I'm the kind of person who looks for the best in people even though I might disagree with them. I disagreed with almost every policy of the 2 Bushs and Reagan, yet I did not dislike any if them

I despise a man who talks about women the way that Trump does. His pathological lying and bragging also does little to impress me. His suggestions that he is smarter than anyone and everyone makes me want to vomit. Trump has all the characteristics of a tyrant. Now, why would we want that type of personality as President?

100% of that can be (and is) true...that does not mean that Hillary is necessarily medically fit to serve. We should know the truth one way of the other BEFORE we invest her with the office

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

A medical history is a medical history. He has had a brain injury in the past. She is on certain meds. And her observed behavior (documented on video) raises reasonable doubts.

Trump is also on meds.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

No, because it's a valid question that has been raised. Her medical history plus recent incidents can and have lead reasonable persons to suspect her health status....

I don't know what you think you've seen, but I've seen a woman take on an incredible schedule that one could not be significantly ill and still continue on.

Just because Clinton's rivals make up stuff does not mean she's obligated to prove their made up stuff is made up.

 

[thaiboxerken]

In about 10 days, this health story will fade and another "scandal" will take its place. Probably the e-mail nonsense again.

 

[ChristianProgressive]

Trump is also on meds.

And I want him so examined as well. This isn't a partisan issue, or at least shouldn't be one.

 

[acbytesla]

100% of that can be (and is) true...that does not mean that Hillary is necessarily medically fit to serve. We should know the truth one way of the other BEFORE we invest her with the office

I would have no problem with BOTH candidates undergoing full physicals. But I object to the premise that only a single candidate should be considered suspect from a health perspective. Trump is almost 3 years older than Hillary and easily as big a health risk.

 

[acbytesla]

In about 10 days, this health story will fade and another "scandal" will take its place. Probably the e-mail nonsense again.

I think scandals and health questions are likely to fade. It will be all about the debates.