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Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part IV

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Maybe the thought has occurred to him: what if I don't win, what then? How does he go back to being the guy he used to be?

Talk show host comes to mind. He can work rabble rousing the same demographic - plenty already make a living at it.
 
Talk show host comes to mind. He can work rabble rousing the same demographic - plenty already make a living at it.



"Next on Trump! Georgia's Grand wizard tells us the history of the '14 Words' and how to use them. After that, Token Jones shows last us his hilarious family recipe for salted watermelon slices. You won't BELIEVE who the top secret guest is who tries them! Don't miss the next Trump!"
 
"Next on Trump! Georgia's Grand wizard tells us the history of the '14 Words' and how to use them. After that, Token Jones shows last us his hilarious family recipe for salted watermelon slices. You won't BELIEVE who the top secret guest is who tries them! Don't miss the next Trump!"

OK, a single show isn't enough. It will be a whole network.
 
OK, a single show isn't enough. It will be a whole network.

That's what some in the right wing blogosphere are suggesting. The Trump Network. An Alt-right news network to compete with Fox for the dwindling paleo-conservative demographic. It's a Bannon wet dream.
 
That's what some in the right wing blogosphere are suggesting. The Trump Network. An Alt-right news network to compete with Fox for the dwindling paleo-conservative demographic. It's a Bannon wet dream.



I wonder it there will be co-branding with Breitbart or just a poaching of staff.
 
Maybe the thought has occurred to him: what if I don't win, what then? How does he go back to being the guy he used to be?
The guy he "used" to be was making a living selling his name to developers he couldn't care less about to attract rubes who didn't know any better to put deposits on buildings that would never be finished. The Presidency has been FANTASTIC for his business because now everyone knows his name and 30% of people still like him.
 
It seems like people are saying, Trump can't go back to the guy he used to be. Damn! That Trump 2016 -- like Atlantic City, Trump Shuttle, New Jersey Generals -- Trump 2016 will turn out to have been a huge miscalculation by The Don. One that will require a lot of time, energy and money to resolve. The Don stepped in it again. Big time! :cool:

I don't think Trump would make the kind of money as a talk show host -- or even with his own cable network -- to support his lifestyle. Plus I don't think it would have the kind of ego gratification he obviously needs.

For one thing, a lot of the most lucrative advertisers would probably shun him. And as someone has posted previously, Trump is carrying (actually his organization is carrying) a lot of debt. He can't walk away from that. At least not without getting embroiled in a series of difficult and exhausting lawsuits.
 
Did he forgot how poorly his callus and self serving reaction to the Orlando shooting went over? .

You are implying that he learned that lesson in the first place. Perhaps I am being too pedantic, but a person cannot forget a lesson that the person never learned.
 
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You are implying that he learned that lesson in the first place. Perhaps I am being too pedantic, but a person cannot forget a lesson that the person never learned.

You are correct. Congratulating himself is his natural reaction to others tragedy. That is so nearly unbelievably ghoulish when you see his reactions to the Bataclan, San Bernidino, Brussels and the Charleston church massacre collected like that.

He also retweeted someone using the phrasing 'black race' in an effort to prove Hillary's Alt Reich speech correct.
 
The guy he "used" to be was making a living selling his name to developers he couldn't care less about to attract rubes who didn't know any better to put deposits on buildings that would never be finished. The Presidency has been FANTASTIC for his business because now everyone knows his name and 30% of people still like him.

But they are the wrong 30%. They aren't the fabulously wealthy but the Honey Boo Boo and Duck Dynasty crowd. Hicks with no teeth and no money who wouldn't be allowed on 5th Avenue, much less Trump Tower. These aren't the people shelling out 2 million dollars for 700 square feet in Manhattan, no they are the crowd paying $7,000 for a single wide in Louisiana.
 
Most of them certainly are.

The reason that they are not trying to push back from it is extremely clear. Because they know what she said is true. And because they don't want to be associated with the alt right. Because they know it is a losing strategy with changing demographics. If they thought they could win with it, they would have zero issue.

Sucks for them.

They know that pandering to the alt right will do no good. The alt right hates them and blames republican leadership as much as they blame Obama for the problems they see in America. For awhile the GOP could contain it in the tea party but now the alt right has slipped right through and is coming for everyone they view as establishment. Bannon wants to rip apart the GOP. GOP leadership is damned if they do and damned if they don't. The alt right will blame them if trump loses and they will destroy them if he wins.

The junior Senator from my state (Jeff Flake) is a pretty good guy for a Republican. He refuses to support the human trash his party nominated, didn't go to the hate convention, didn't sign that treasonous letter to Iran like his 47 colleagues did, ect.

As an arizonian too I was not a fan of Flake until this past year. I still have a bad taste in my mouth for all those dogs that died in his sons care and didn't face any charges.


He is like Brick from Anchorman, "I LOVE LAMP!"
 
He is like Brick from Anchorman, "I LOVE LAMP!"

He's nearly quite literally Ron Burgundy.

Ron: Let's go to Brian Fantana who's live on the scene with a Channel Four News exclusive. Brian?
Brian: Panda Watch! The mood is tense. I have been on some serious, serious reports but nothing quite like this. I, uh, Ching King is inside right now. I tried to get an interview with him, but they said "No, you can't do that, he's a live bear, he will literally rip your face off." [to the Panda] Hey, you're making me look stupid. Get out here, panda jerk!
Ron
: Great story. Compelling and rich. Well, that's going to do it for all of us here at Channel Four News. You stay classy, San Diego. I'm Ron Burgundy?
Ed: Damn it! Who typed a question mark on the teleprompter? For the last time, anything you put on that prompter, Burgundy will read!
 
But they are the wrong 30%. They aren't the fabulously wealthy but the Honey Boo Boo and Duck Dynasty crowd. Hicks with no teeth and no money who wouldn't be allowed on 5th Avenue, much less Trump Tower. These aren't the people shelling out 2 million dollars for 700 square feet in Manhattan, no they are the crowd paying $7,000 for a single wide in Louisiana.
That's where the con is being run. Never leaving his glittering throne (I will buy a hat and then eat that hat if he doesn't have at least one private, incredibly ostentatious shrine to himself), he leases his name to developers who'll take on investments and deposits for downmarket "Trump" properties, not quite trailer parks but getting there, selling it as if it's 100% Trump's thing and not Disposable Shell Company's. Then the money disappears, DSC goes under, and the other investors have no one to sue because legally Trump just sold the use of his name and is not personally on the hook for any of it.

It's the same con he's run his whole life, just down the ladder a peg and ruining his own name instead of his father's. So yeah, not trailer parks yet, but soon enough.
 
That's where the con is being run. Never leaving his glittering throne (I will buy a hat and then eat that hat if he doesn't have at least one private, incredibly ostentatious shrine to himself), he leases his name to developers who'll take on investments and deposits for downmarket "Trump" properties, not quite trailer parks but getting there, selling it as if it's 100% Trump's thing and not Disposable Shell Company's. Then the money disappears, DSC goes under, and the other investors have no one to sue because legally Trump just sold the use of his name and is not personally on the hook for any of it.

It's the same con he's run his whole life, just down the ladder a peg and ruining his own name instead of his father's. So yeah, not trailer parks yet, but soon enough.

Doesn't seem ideal to me. Seems like you're trading Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous for Walmart and the Piggy Wiggly store. 5th Avenue and the Hamptons for Mississippi and the Ozarks. For a guy who has spent most of his whole in Limousines and private jets, this seems like trading down.

Sure, Trump can make a buck but this seems like very hard work. But hey, what do I know? I'm not a con man. Maybe it's easier to steal $100 from 10,000 people than $1,000,000 from 1.
 
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What would make that documentation any different from the dozen other versions he's on the record stating?

Add to that the bigger picture: what in the hell kind of candidate running for office has to figure out his positions during the campaign in the first place? How can you support a candidate that even HAS TO "pivot" to appear like a legitimate candidate?

Are you really supporting a candidate because you think they can be molded into someone who will do what you want? That's not a candidate, that's play-doh.

Jeez, Hillary gets criticized for having her positions determined by polling. Here, the Trump campaign is basing their whole friggin strategy on doing that!

This is just a sign of how absolutely stupid the republicans have been in this campaign. They haven't voted for a candidate, they have voted for a vessel they expect will champion their ideology. No consideration of whether he would make a good president. All of a sudden they realize that, damn, this guy has to actually be president. Maybe he should act in ways that a president should. And maybe we need to tell him what political positions he needs to hold to be a republican.

How in the world do you not think about that stuff before you nominate him?

Oh I know the answer. Because when your whole presidential campaign is based on tearing down the opponent, you don't spend any time in making sure that you have created a viable alternative, should your desperate attempts fail.
 
Doesn't seem ideal to me. Seems like you're trading Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous for Walmart and the Piggy Wiggly store. 5th Avenue and the Hamptons for Mississippi and the Ozarks. For a guy who has spent most of his whole in Limousines and private jets, this seems like trading down.

Sure, Trump can make a buck but this seems like very hard work. But hey, what do I know? I'm not a con man. Maybe it's easier to steal $100 from 10,000 people than $1,000,000 from 1.
He's not doing the work. He just takes the money (up front, I'll bet) from lesser con men who then do the work. They're probably lined up outside his door.
 
But they are the wrong 30%. They aren't the fabulously wealthy but the Honey Boo Boo and Duck Dynasty crowd. Hicks with no teeth and no money who wouldn't be allowed on 5th Avenue, much less Trump Tower. These aren't the people shelling out 2 million dollars for 700 square feet in Manhattan, no they are the crowd paying $7,000 for a single wide in Louisiana.

You know, you could say, "White, uneducated working class" in fewer words and with less bigotry. Basic decency cuts both ways.
 
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