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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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Well guess what? I'm going to keep quoting it just like all you quote your quotes made to be quoted by quoters like me to quote, how's that for a quote?

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Speaking about quotes this is one of my Honest man

When an honest man honestly mistaken comes face-to-face with undeniable and irrefutable truth he is faced with one of two choices he must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.

JR
 
HDenier said:
Well guess what? I'm going to keep quoting it just like all you quote your quotes made to be quoted by quoters like me to quote, how's that for a quote?

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Nearly incomprehensible. You go right ahead and quote Gringauz out of context and for the obvious purpose of distorting his meaning. It doesn't affect anything to do with his papers, the history, the range of evidence, or what we should conclude from it all - except to expose further "the revisionist method." I hope you do keep quoting the cherrypicked statement because we all know the context and meaning - and we will be sure that newcomers do, too. Carry on.
 
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Speaking about quotes this is one of my Honest man

When an honest man honestly mistaken comes face-to-face with undeniable and irrefutable truth he is faced with one of two choices he must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.

JR
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We do not expect you to admit any of your mistakes and errors or even to stop dodging questions you've been ask and evidence you've been shown. Draw your own conclusions.
 
JimRizoli said:
Speaking about quotes this is one of my Honest man

When an honest man honestly mistaken comes face-to-face with undeniable and irrefutable truth he is faced with one of two choices he must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.

JR
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Which is exactly why everyone here at the ISF has concluded that you are not being honest.
 
HDenier said:
I would suggest that you all study the topic False Memory Syndrome.
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False Memory Syndrome is not an accepted medical condition (ie not in the DSVM). It doesn't matter how longer someone has been studying something, if it's not an actual medical condition, it is not going to have any weight if someone says another person has it at trial.
 
Degeneve said:
Thank you. This clearly shows that HDenier has practised quote mining again.
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Actually a BIG thank you for the CONTEXT of that quote. NOW I will use it really more with absolute truth behind me as to Context even though I always felt the context backed me up in the first place. If you read the context you will see that the problem with the holohoax as seen from Gringuaz was that it was too personal, thus people said more into it than what they should have said and went overboard in their testimonies. Of course anyone studying Elizabeth Lotus materials would understand the part false memories played into this dilemma.

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HDenier said:
That Go listen to a few of Elizabeth Lotus discussions about false memories
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By the way, it's Elizabeth Loftus and not Lotus.

Furthermore, the first testimonies came during the war and some of them were written reports.

Right after the war survivors and perpetraors gave their own testomonies. The timeframe between the end of the war and these testimonies is definitely too short to create false memory syndrom in that case.

There were also testimonies of mass executions by firing squads on the East front which were corroborated by interceptions of radio communications by the Einsatzkommandos and the Ordnungpolizei.

And finally there are also documents and archeological elements which confirm the testimonies.
 
HDenier said:
Actually a BIG thank you for the CONTEXT of that quote. NOW I will use it really more with absolute truth behind me as to Context even though I always felt the context backed me up in the first place. If you read the context you will see that the problem with the holohoax as seen from Gringuaz was that it was too personal, thus people said more into it than what they should have said and went overboard in their testimonies. Of course anyone studying Elizabeth Lotus materials would understand the part false memories played into this dilemma.
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Unless you're using it in relation to the discussion of the social organization of the Jewish ghettoes, like Gringauz was, then you're still using the quote misleadingly and dishonestly.

But that's pretty much par for the course with deniers, so I can't really say I'm surprised.
 
HDenier said:
Well guess what? I'm going to keep quoting it just like all you quote your quotes made to be quoted by quoters like me to quote, how's that for a quote?

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So, lets be clear: you will repeat a quote you have been informed is ripped fraudulently from context for no reason other than to prove your embrace of ignorance? How's that for a summation of your "ethos"?
 
HDenier said:
Actually a BIG thank you for the CONTEXT of that quote. NOW I will use it really more with absolute truth behind me as to Context even though I always felt the context backed me up in the first place. If you read the context you will see that the problem with the holohoax as seen from Gringuaz was that it was too personal, thus people said more into it than what they should have said and went overboard in their testimonies. Of course anyone studying Elizabeth Lotus materials would understand the part false memories played into this dilemma.
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Its okay we understand your need to not face the reality of your basic error.

LOL x 2

A normal person having made your mistake would have:

'Oh I see my mistakes, thanks for the correction.' However, a person like yourself would do what you are doing above. Will that work? Not at all, would the first method work? Absolutely it does all the time.



One is honest one is not.
 
LeoMajor said:
So, lets be clear: you will repeat a quote you have been informed is ripped fraudulently from context for no reason other than to prove your embrace of ignorance? How's that for a summation of your "ethos"?
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Sorry my friend you mis-spelled 'ego'.
 
JimRizoli said:
Why would you HoloHuxsters say anything differently...LOL
You don't even except quotes that expose you....

JR
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I *accept* the quotation you've used from Gringauz, I think that's what you wanted to say - and in fact a number of us have explained to you what Gringauz is actually focused on and how he approaches his study of the conditions and responses of Jews who were forced into ghettos.

Perhaps, as an expert on Gringauz, you'd summarize now for us your interpretation of his 1949 and 1950 papers and state in your own words what he was saying about ghetto life.
 
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