Navies looking for Atlantis

[Bubba]

I would be extremely surprised. Submarines are terrible at surveying terrain features. They rely on detailed and accurate maps generated by other ships to avoid running into stuff.

But...

And naval surface ships are not equipped to do that kind of surveying either, for obvious reasons.

But, but...

And there's no reason to send actual real life hydrographic survey ships (which are generally not part of the navy anyway) to search for Atlantis, for training or otherwise. All you have to do is tell them "survey everything". The ships are just collecting data. That blip could be a rock spire, an Atlantean tower, or a sensor anomaly. The ship doesn't know or care.

But....Cameras.

It's up to the analysts ashore, weeks or months or years later, to collate the data and turn it into information.

A more realistic question might be, if any one or more of the world's oceanographic survey societies has given its analysts a stack of un-analyzed data and told them "look for Atlantis".

But...All well and good knowledge, but not talking ordinary style here.

But even that would be a stupid question. Instead of getting solid analysis, you'd get a lot of false positives and wasted effort. Better to give the analysts a pile of un-analyzed data, and tell them "map it all". Then look at the maps and see what they tell you.

But cameras.


On ROVs....from non ordinary subs focusing on selected smaller targeted areas.

Hypothetical here, remember.

So the best question, the real question, is why haven't you looked at the hydrographic survey maps and tried to find Atlantis?

B'cuz I'm pretty sure OP says Atlantis is a myth.


" ....Even though Atlantis is nothing more than a myth, mind you. "

.

 

[sts60]

Bubba what does this have to do with a conspiracy?

Please don't ask Bubba a direct question like that and expect a direct answer. This is just another in an apparently infinite series of passive-aggressive JAQ threads.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

See, the conspiracy is that while they are TOLD to search for Atlantis, in actual fact older submarines are sometimes sent of to bring 'volunteers' to Ry'leh to keep the stars wrong.

 

[JayUtah]

Never mind specially equipped classified super subs today. Subs can carry video camera bearing ROVs.

Are you claiming that there exist classified super subs that are being tasked with looking for Atlantis?

Atlantis is nothing more than a myth, (as I said in the OP)

So is it fair to say you too would be surprised that navies have classified super subs looking for Atlantis? You have suggested this would be a "training exercise." Please explain what training objective would be served by such a search.

 

[Hans]

I was afraid you'd never ask.

Why didn't YOU ask?

Someone moved it to conspiracies. Ask them.

I cannot that information isn't shown however they would have sent you a PM and so YOU do know but decided not to share that information.

Are you calling for a full investigation?

Why would you say something so silly?

Or are you merely pointing out how a revealing study could be made about the mindsets behind actions like knee jerk thread moving, and how such mindsets link to bigotry in the greater population of so called modern society?

Atlantis is a myth not a conspiracy.

Comparisons could then be drawn to certain mindsets in pre-war Germany, and to "The Red Scare" of 1950s America (before one of the last real journalists exposed that).

Not really but I guess you would.

A little Bernays Sauce can go a long long way.

Nope

 

[Hans]

Please don't ask Bubba a direct question like that and expect a direct answer. This is just another in an apparently infinite series of passive-aggressive JAQ threads.

Yep another of Bubba's 'whole lot of nothing' threads.

 

[Vortigern99]

Naives looking for Atlantis, amiright?

 

[Hans]

Naives looking for Atlantis, amiright?

Maybe he meant navvies? lol

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Or a bucket of prop wash...

Young Airman (E2) Jrrarglbalrg was sent off to get a box of Line Feed by one of the E4s. So he took a nice long cigarette break outside in the British summer night air, then grabbed a fresh roll of blue reinforced-paper punch-tape and spent the next hour and a half replacing the vertical formatting tapes (VFT) in all of the message printers, which involved interrupting half a dozen other people's workflow in 3 different countries at various stages.

First, turn on the paper tape punch, then kick the operator off a terminal so you can load the punch tape utility program from an 8" floppy drive. Output the VFT on plain paper to check function, then load the blue tape and kick out several copies. Eventually, you relenquish the terminal back to the person transmitting classified typewritten messages via Optical Character Reader the size of a dishwasher.

Then, each printer in the room needs to be taken offline and powered down one by one to remove the old punch tape loop and install a new one. In the case of the Classified printer, first send a service message to the hub to have all classified traffic for one AUTODIN address rerouted to the other one to maintain 100% continuous contact for FLASH precedence traffic. Then change the rerouting the other way and do the other address' classified printer. Then reset all rerouting and sent test messages to confirm connection. This interrupts the workflow of the person who is supposed to be sending service messages, as well as disturbing the mainframe terminal jockies in Germany and Italy.

Then you change the tape in the unclassified printers and restore all the unclassified traffic you've had the AUTODIN hub spooling to tape for the last hour, annoying tape monkeys in two nations, suddenly unleashing a torrent of printer activity from every printer in the room and swaming the classified and unclassified desks.

Great fun.

 

[Hans]

Young Airman (E2) Jrrarglbalrg was sent off to get a box of Line Feed by one of the E4s. So he took a nice long cigarette break outside in the British summer night air, then grabbed a fresh roll of blue reinforced-paper punch-tape and spent the next hour and a half replacing the vertical formatting tapes (VFT) in all of the message printers, which involved interrupting half a dozen other people's workflow in 3 different countries at various stages.

First, turn on the paper tape punch, then kick the operator off a terminal so you can load the punch tape utility program from an 8" floppy drive. Output the VFT on plain paper to check function, then load the blue tape and kick out several copies. Eventually, you relenquish the terminal back to the person transmitting classified typewritten messages via Optical Character Reader the size of a dishwasher.

Then, each printer in the room needs to be taken offline and powered down one by one to remove the old punch tape loop and install a new one. In the case of the Classified printer, first send a service message to the hub to have all classified traffic for one AUTODIN address rerouted to the other one to maintain 100% continuous contact for FLASH precedence traffic. Then change the rerouting the other way and do the other address' classified printer. Then reset all rerouting and sent test messages to confirm connection. This interrupts the workflow of the person who is supposed to be sending service messages, as well as disturbing the mainframe terminal jockies in Germany and Italy.

Then you change the tape in the unclassified printers and restore all the unclassified traffic you've had the AUTODIN hub spooling to tape for the last hour, annoying tape monkeys in two nations, suddenly unleashing a torrent of printer activity from every printer in the room and swaming the classified and unclassified desks.

Great fun.

So that was you huh!

While not quite up to that level. I once approved a purchase for a part for an army RATT truck transmitter (a piece made in the 1950's I think full of beautiful old tubes) and we ended up getting an anchor suitable for a Spruance class DD.

It was found there had been an error by a data entry person who was punching the data from a written request to the new automated system (1979).

However, it was quite amusing when the German railroad liaison officer office called our Artillery Battalion to come pick up 'our' anchor.

 

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Hans
Bubba what does this have to do with a conspiracy?

by Bubba;

I was afraid you'd never ask

Why didn't YOU ask?

Because its obvious the mod thought it was about a conspiracy theory, as you implied

..... that information isn't shown however they would have sent you a PM and so YOU do know but decided not to share that information.

Classic. Allegation fail. Once again, usual ignorance/arrogance blend noted on display.

(there was no mod explanation given for moving thread.)

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Shall I wait for you to apologize and/or admit your mistake/ and behavior?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

So that was you huh!

While not quite up to that level. I once approved a purchase for a part for an army RATT truck transmitter (a piece made in the 1950's I think full of beautiful old tubes) and we ended up getting an anchor suitable for a Spruance class DD.

It was found there had been an error by a data entry person who was punching the data from a written request to the new automated system (1979).

However, it was quite amusing when the German railroad liaison officer office called our Artillery Battalion to come pick up 'our' anchor.

So, instead of a figurative boat anchor they sent a literal one?

 

[fromdownunder]

Maybe he meant navvies? lol

Or maybe Na'vi - I have heard that Avatar 2 will be set largely in an underwater environment. Maybe these Supersubs are James Cameron doing more underwater research.

Norm

 

[Andy_Ross]

Are you claiming that there exist classified super subs that are being tasked with looking for Atlantis?



So is it fair to say you too would be surprised that navies have classified super subs looking for Atlantis? You have suggested this would be a "training exercise." Please explain what training objective would be served by such a search.

Well, the RN tried a Super Sub but it's cape kept getting wrapped around the periscope and blocking the snorkel.

 

[Andy_Ross]

So that was you huh!

While not quite up to that level. I once approved a purchase for a part for an army RATT truck transmitter (a piece made in the 1950's I think full of beautiful old tubes) and we ended up getting an anchor suitable for a Spruance class DD.

It was found there had been an error by a data entry person who was punching the data from a written request to the new automated system (1979).

However, it was quite amusing when the German railroad liaison officer office called our Artillery Battalion to come pick up 'our' anchor.

You saw this anchor?

 

[Axxman300]

I can see COMSUBLANT tasking a Seawolf or a Virginia class sub to waste time looking for a sunken city with zero strategic or tactical value even though our sub force is stretched thin already.

It's only money.

 

[Hans]

You saw this anchor?

Sorry it never happened, Nope not at all, couldn't have as no one would have made such a colossal error.

Reminds me when a request for 2,000,000 (? some large number I forget exactly) gallons of gasoline was misread and we got 200 instead for a part of a REFORGER exercise.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Sorry it never happened, Nope not at all, couldn't have no one would have made such a colossal error.

Exactly. No one saw the anchor because there wasn't one. I heard the same story from a friend in the Royal Engineers about an anchor turning up at his field squadron due to a 'computer error' many years ago. He never saw the anchor.
Supposedly an Ejector Seat was sent to our ship instead of parts for the Seacat Director. Funny thing is no one seemed to have actually seen it but someones oppo in 3 Mess helped carry it over the Brow.

 

[Kid Eager]

Oh FFS!!!!

Let's be clear here - if you want to find out what's on the bottom of the ocean, you send a Hydrographic Survey ship.

After that, if you want to have a look at a specific anomaly that you've identified, then, and only then, do ROVs equipped with cameras get deployed.

ROVs are inherently useless at surveying - the field of view is far too narrow and their speed of coverage is slow.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Oh FFS!!!!

Let's be clear here - if you want to find out what's on the bottom of the ocean, you send a Hydrographic Survey ship.

After that, if you want to have a look at a specific anomaly that you've identified, then, and only then, do ROVs equipped with cameras get deployed.

ROVs are inherently useless at surveying - the field of view is far too narrow and their speed of coverage is slow.

Stop confusing us with science!!!