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New Disclosures on Benghazi - Part II

Here is the actual complaint. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/160808-Final Complaint .pdf

Make sure you read the stomach churning attacks Hillary made on the victims families on pages 7-9.

Thoroughly Corrupt Hillary is as despicable as Simon Shack and the rest of the vicsim scumbags.

Didn't vicsim claim that the victims didn't exist? Could you stop dodging any of the questions posed and tell us how they're comparable? Hillary hasn't insulted the men that have died, or deny that they existed at all. Come on...
 
She may be the most thoroughly documented (thanks to the right wing echo chamber) - although I'm not sure how you'd judge that - but then again she lies so much less than some other politicians, including Donald Trump



Does grieving absent a person from reality ?

I fail to see how her statements are in any way stomach churning. Quite the opposite, they seemed to me to be respectfully correcting their mistake.


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Apart from their own, possibly faulty, memories (after all memories are fallible and grief does strange things), is there any evidence that Hillary Clinton told the families that the Youtube video was the cause ?

Instead could they be conflating early media reports and later meeting(s) ?

You mean other than the fact that at that same time Hillary and the entire administration was telling that same lie to the American public, while knowing it was false?

Who ya gonna believe, thoroughly documented liar "I landed under Sniper Fire Hillary Clinton" or the victims' families?

By the way, it seems like Hillary has supporters of family members in other tragedies: Orlando shooter’s father spotted at Clinton rally
 
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You mean other than the fact that at that same time Hillary and the entire administration was telling that same lie to the American public, while knowing it was false?

Who ya gonna believe, thoroughly documented liar "I landed under Sniper Fire Hillary Clinton" or the victims' families?

By the way, it seems like Hillary has supporters of family members in other tragedies: Orlando shooter’s father spotted at Clinton rally
So what are you going to say when the lawsuit is tossed? Maybe Hillary gave the judge a big bag of cash? Promised him/her a promotion to a higher court given that she's going to be the next President of the United States?

LOL
 
So what are you going to say when the lawsuit is tossed? Maybe Hillary gave the judge a big bag of cash? Promised him/her a promotion to a higher court given that she's going to be the next President of the United States?

That's what my money is on.
 
You mean other than the fact that at that same time Hillary and the entire administration was telling that same lie to the American public, while knowing it was false?

Who ya gonna believe, thoroughly documented liar "I landed under Sniper Fire Hillary Clinton" or the victims' families?

By the way, it seems like Hillary has supporters of family members in other tragedies: Orlando shooter’s father spotted at Clinton rally

Why would the victim's family have special insights into Hillary's "true" role in Benghazi that multiple, multiple Republican investigations were unable to find? Where would they obtain that information?

And do you also have to post such exaggerations of the facts that you undermine your very argument? "thoroughly documented liar"? "I landed under sniper fire" was clearly wrong- either an intentional lie, an over-exaggerated spin or a 7-year old false memory. But compare that to just one day of Trump's current public statements! There are clearly some things Hillary has exaggerated, played down, or simply done wrong. But I find Ms. Clinton solidly within the usual politician scope of spinning things to her advantage- certainly no different from most current leaders in USA politics. And if we compare her to Trump or to many of the other Republican leaders she actually looks quite honest. In many ways this repeated use of her sniper fire comment by her opponents only highlights the lack of having much in the way of truly substantial, relevant, and proven other accusations against her.

Clinton is, in fact, probably among the most investigated current poitiicians (for these blatant political reasons). Ironically all these political investigations have served to clear Ms. Clinton of the vast majority of the allegations against her. Of course that hasn't stopped the Republications, or you, from continuing to assert these disproven allegations as if they were proven facts.

Finally- haven't I read on this very forum posts that argue that Trump is not responsible for all the white supremacists who attend his rallies? I agree- most rallies are open to anyone who is not a threat and wishes to attend. I'll make a deal with you- if a relative of the Orlando shooter wishes to attend a Hillary rally then I will not make a big deal of all the actual KKK and neo-Nazis who show up at Trump rallies.
 
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She may be the most thoroughly documented (thanks to the right wing echo chamber) - although I'm not sure how you'd judge that - but then again she lies so much less than some other politicians, including Donald Trump



Does grieving absent a person from reality ?

I fail to see how her statements are in any way stomach churning. Quite the opposite, they seemed to me to be respectfully correcting their mistake.


edited to add...

Apart from their own, possibly faulty, memories (after all memories are fallible and grief does strange things), is there any evidence that Hillary Clinton told the families that the Youtube video was the cause ?

Instead could they be conflating early media reports and later meeting(s) ?

The part that I still don't understand is why it matters whether the attack was started because of the video or was planned. This is just straight up conspiracy theory, made even more so by the only lawyer to take the case being a known whack-job conspiracy theorist.
 
Why would the victim's family have special insights into Hillary's "true" role in Benghazi that multiple, multiple Republican investigations were unable to find? Where would they obtain that information?

Uh because Hillary personally lied to their faces.

Unable to find? It is established without dispute that Hillary knew it was a well planned attack by Islamic Jihadists that had nothing to do with the video yet she lied about it.

Those investigations uncovered the actual facts, you might want to actually read the Special Committee's Report.

Let me know if you have any question AFTER you do so
 
Why would the victim's family have special insights into Hillary's "true" role in Benghazi that multiple, multiple Republican investigations were unable to find? Where would they obtain that information?

And do you also have to post such exaggerations of the facts that you undermine your very argument? "thoroughly documented liar"? "I landed under sniper fire" was clearly wrong- either an intentional lie, an over-exaggerated spin or a 7-year old false memory. But compare that to just one day of Trump's current public statements! There are clearly some things Hillary has exaggerated, played down, or simply done wrong. But I find Ms. Clinton solidly within the usual politician scope of spinning things to her advantage- certainly no different from most current leaders in USA politics. And if we compare her to Trump or to many of the other Republican leaders she actually looks quite honest. In many ways this repeated use of her sniper fire comment by her opponents only highlights the lack of having much in the way of truly substantial, relevant, and proven other accusations against her.

Clinton is, in fact, probably among the most investigated current poitiicians (for these blatant political reasons). Ironically all these political investigations have served to clear Ms. Clinton of the vast majority of the allegations against her. Of course that hasn't stopped the Republications, or you, from continuing to assert these disproven allegations as if they were proven facts.

Finally- haven't I read on this very forum posts that argue that Trump is not responsible for all the white supremacists who attend his rallies? I agree- most rallies are open to anyone who is not a threat and wishes to attend. I'll make a deal with you- if a relative of the Orlando shooter wishes to attend a Hillary rally then I will not make a big deal of all the actual KKK and neo-Nazis who show up at Trump rallies.

Re: the highlighted. At best this was an exaggeration. Clinton was warned ahead of time that she was entering what was considered a combat zone, and was issued a flak jacket to wear. From her speech writer who accompanied Clinton on that flight: I was on the plane with then First Lady Hillary Clinton for the trip from Germany into Bosnia in 1996. We were put on a C-17 — a plane capable of steep ascents and descents — precisely because we were flying into what was considered a combat zone. We were issued flak jackets for the final leg because of possible sniper fire near Tuzla. As an additional precaution, the First Lady and Chelsea were moved to the armored cockpit for the descent into Tuzla. We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip. From Tuzla, Hillary flew to two outposts in Bosnia with gunships escorting her helicopter.
 
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Uh because Hillary personally lied to their faces.
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That's their claim. They have no evidence that she lied, and you have no evidence that she lied.

Regardless, you dodged the question ... care to try and answer it:

Why would the victim's family have special insights into Hillary's "true" role in Benghazi that multiple, multiple Republican investigations were unable to find?
 
Why would the victim's family have special insights into Hillary's "true" role in Benghazi that multiple, multiple Republican investigations were unable to find? Where would they obtain that information? .

Hey, remember the republicans were desperately relying on the testimony of the "drone operator from Iowa" who called into the Sean Hannity show.
 
Remember when Republicans like 16.5 thought that Benghazi would be the silver bullet that finally slayed the Hildebeast?

Oh they still "think" that?

LOL
 
Hey, remember the republicans were desperately relying on the testimony of the "drone operator from Iowa" who called into the Sean Hannity show.

LOLZ!!!

You know they found him right? After a political hack at the DoD gave them the freaking run around.

Classic!
 
Still nothing to say about the fact that the lawyer is a conspiracy theory whackjob who tried to have Obama deported, I see.

The news media is slow to go there too. Yesterday it was just the mothers are suing. Today they mentioned the lawyer has had it in for the Clintons. I'm waiting for the nut-job shoe to drop.
 
You mean other than the fact that at that same time Hillary and the entire administration was telling that same lie to the American public, while knowing it was false?

This only happened in you imagination..

Who ya gonna believe, thoroughly documented liar "I landed under Sniper Fire Hillary Clinton" or the victims' families?

Given how few lies Hillary tells - Hillary until proven otherwise.

By the way, it seems like Hillary has supporters of family members in other tragedies: Orlando shooter’s father spotted at Clinton rally

Person turns up at open rally ...... and ?
 
I thought for a second that we had a second poster that sounds like 16.5. LOL.

BTW, he sure is getting desperate now that it is becoming more and more likely (currently at 87.1% according to 538) that the person he hates the most in the world is going to become the next President of the United States. LOL
 
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