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Georgia Lawmaker Defends KKK

Once again, I give you Cleon's Law: Whenever Georgia is in the national news, it's always for something stupid.
 
Cleon said:
Once again, I give you Cleon's Law: Whenever Georgia is in the national news, it's always for something stupid.
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Sad,really;Atlanta and Northern Georgia has some really beautiful country, and if you a Civil War Buff you will be in Hog Heaven.
Savannah is also a nice place to visit...though they are REALLY overdoing the Pirate stuff......
 
dudalb said:
Sad,really;Atlanta and Northern Georgia has some really beautiful country, and if you a Civil War Buff you will be in Hog Heaven.
Savannah is also a nice place to visit...though they are REALLY overdoing the Pirate stuff......
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Doesn't Savannah also play up the "haunted city" tourism bit as well??

found the book I was looking for, it's very interesting. Tales from the Haunted South: Dark Tourism and Memories of Slavery from the Civil War Era by Tiya Miles. She discusses the Ghost Tours in Savannah and New Orleans and how they feature slaves> I pasted the description below. It's a very interesting read an I will probbaly use it in a class this Fall.

n this book Tiya Miles explores the popular yet troubling phenomenon of "ghost tours," frequently promoted and experienced at plantations, urban manor homes, and cemeteries throughout the South. As a staple of the tours, guides entertain paying customers by routinely relying on stories of enslaved black specters. But who are these ghosts? Examining popular sites and stories from these tours, Miles shows that haunted tales routinely appropriate and skew African American history to produce representations of slavery for commercial gain. "Dark tourism" often highlights the most sensationalist and macabre aspects of slavery, from salacious sexual ties between white masters and black women slaves to the physical abuse and torture of black bodies to the supposedly exotic nature of African spiritual practices. Because the realities of slavery are largely absent from these tours, Miles reveals how they continue to feed problematic "Old South" narratives and erase the hard truths of the Civil War era. In an incisive and engaging work, Miles uses these troubling cases to shine light on how we feel about the Civil War and race, and how the ghosts of the past are still with us.
 
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Lest anyone think this crud is just electioneering, I thought I recognized the name and he's the same clown who gets in the news regularly for his defense of the Klan, his promotion of bills to protect Stone Mountain, for wanting Lee's and Jeff Davis' birthdays made holidays, for Confederate Spirit Day or something like that, etc... He's an old boll weevil of a codger and has been doing this for years. I doubt Jefferson County is going to turn him out. He's in about as safe as seat as they can create. Besides, because he's such a horse's ass he's probably about the only state rep known to anyone outside of their own district.
 
Oh, there is a source that said/implied Wilson renounced or otherwise it in the late 20's - early 30's
 
C_Felix said:
When I saw the thread title, "Georgia Lawmaker Defends KKK", REPUBLICAN jumped into my head.

I wasn't wrong.
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You will rarely be wrong associating the republickers and racism/bigotry of one or more types. On the bright side this is not their only flaw!!!!!
 
fuelair said:
Interesting - I don't do much old politics, but I do film and have taught it -two of the things mentioned in two or more sources support both the Wilson one and the maid of Griffith one - one famous one re: Wilson : http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_birth.html
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my specialty as a professor of American history is that period, including Wilson. There are several good articles about the showing. I'll list a couple of them below. Basically the film was shown at the White House because the household was in mourning so a trip to the theater was out. Wilson was invited to the main showing that was designed to honor the film, held at the National Press Club for members of Congress and the Supreme Court. That's where Griffith and Dixon got their quotes for the film's advertisements. He couldn't make it, so the film was shown at the White House instead.

The film quoted Wilson's books, but left out his (lukewarm) condemnation of the Klan. And under pressure from the NAACP Wilson did issue a very lukewarm comment about not endorsing the film (The NAACP circulated the statement). FWIW, it was not the first film shown at the White House, a common error.

in March 1923 Wilson asked a friend in the Senate if a mutual acquaintance was a member of the Klan. Wilson wrote . "I hope that...it is not in fact true that your new colleague represents in any sense the Ku Klux Klan. I hoped that was true only in appearance, for no more obnoxious or harmful organization has ever shown itself in our affairs."

A couple good articles.

Arthur Lennig, “Myth and Fact: The Reception of The Birth of a Nation,” Film History 16 (Apr. 2004).: 117-41.

Mark Benbow, "Birth of a Quotation: Woodrow Wilson and 'Like Writing History with Lightning'." Journal of the Gilded Age and Progressive Era 9/4 (October 2010).: 509-533.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Lest anyone think this crud is just electioneering, I thought I recognized the name and he's the same clown who gets in the news regularly for his defense of the Klan, his promotion of bills to protect Stone Mountain, for wanting Lee's and Jeff Davis' birthdays made holidays, for Confederate Spirit Day or something like that, etc... He's an old boll weevil of a codger and has been doing this for years. I doubt Jefferson County is going to turn him out. He's in about as safe as seat as they can create. Besides, because he's such a horse's ass he's probably about the only state rep known to anyone outside of their own district.
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The guy announces on the front page of his official web site that he's a proud member of SCV and the "Order of the Stars and Bars."

He's got a history. It's not like this is a huge shift in his political leanings.
 
Myron Proudfoot said:
my specialty as a professor of American history is that period, including Wilson. There are several good articles about the showing. I'll list a couple of them below. Basically the film was shown at the White House because the household was in mourning so a trip to the theater was out. Wilson was invited to the main showing that was designed to honor the film, held at the National Press Club for members of Congress and the Supreme Court. That's where Griffith and Dixon got their quotes for the film's advertisements. He couldn't make it, so the film was shown at the White House instead.

The film quoted Wilson's books, but left out his (lukewarm) condemnation of the Klan. And under pressure from the NAACP Wilson did issue a very lukewarm comment about not endorsing the film (The NAACP circulated the statement). FWIW, it was not the first film shown at the White House, a common error.

in March 1923 Wilson asked a friend in the Senate if a mutual acquaintance was a member of the Klan. Wilson wrote . "I hope that...it is not in fact true that your new colleague represents in any sense the Ku Klux Klan. I hoped that was true only in appearance, for no more obnoxious or harmful organization has ever shown itself in our affairs."

A couple good articles.

Arthur Lennig, “Myth and Fact: The Reception of The Birth of a Nation,” Film History 16 (Apr. 2004).: 117-41.

Mark Benbow, "Birth of a Quotation: Woodrow Wilson and 'Like Writing History with Lightning'." Journal of the Gilded Age and Progressive Era 9/4 (October 2010).: 509-533.
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Good data and more than covered in film studies:):re: the showing. I'll see if I can get to the articles - especially the second, on line!!! Thanks!!!:):thumbsup::):thumbsup:
 
Banning confederate flags is a bit stupid. It is part of your history, but

This dudes a knobend
 
Stacko said:
There's going to a number of articles written with the topic, "Is America Becoming More Liberal," in response to Donald crashing and burning that fail to take into account that he's a uniquely bad candidate. If it was a generic R, like Kasich, would the same be true?
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Just exactly how unique is he among modern Republicans? What has he said that Ben Carson and Ted Cruz didn't say? The only difference is that Trump is a lot more vulgar about it.

Trump is the the pay off of the GOP strategy of the last 30 years. This is what they have pandered to since Reagan. This what ran Boehner out and relegated Kasich to a punch line.

Look at how Bush beat McCain in 2000. What McCain had to reduce himself to in 2008. Romney had pander to the extremists in 2012 and we just kept hearing how he didn't go far enough for them.
 
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