Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread II

Fudbucker said:
Yes, you are clueless, and also moving the goalposts. RCP polling averages (which I linked to) are not "right wing", are cited by pretty much everyone, and no one who knows anything about politics would claim that.
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Oh, and just to kill this dead horse even more, remember how you cited fivethirtyeight's rating of Quinnipiac as somehow indicative of RCP not being a right wing source (total non-sequitor, right?) in order to show how the RCP averages were significant? Yeah, if fivethirtyeight is an accurate assessment of the polls, what are their Florida numbers? Oh, Clinton in the lead, Fudbucker desperately ignoring accurate sources in favor of skewed polls again. Whoops, sorry, why ask a question when you know the answer in advance? My bad.
 
wareyin said:
What is his lead in FL? What percentage of FL voters are white male?

Your cherry-picked poll only has him at 42% to Clinton's 39%. If, as you claim (I can't be bothered to check your numbers) white males make up 30%, that leaves 12% coming from elsewhere. You may think that 12% of support from the rest of the population is significant, but I don't find it so.
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On the mainstream news, when Clinton is ahead by a small percentage in a poll, it's obligatory to mention it is within the margin of error. If Clinton is behind, with only as little as 1%, it's obligatory to mention, she's in trouble.
 
THe polls are going to up and down like craze over the next few months.
Face it,that huge lead that Hillary had last month was not going to last. That was after Trump had the worst month a candidate has had in a while. And her being caugh lying....and you can't get around that...has hurt her. But the basics still favor Hillary.
 
dudalb said:
THe polls are going to up and down like craze over the next few months.
Face it,that huge lead that Hillary had last month was not going to last. That was after Trump had the worst month a candidate has had in a while. And her being caugh lying....and you can't get around that...has hurt her. But the basics still favor Hillary.
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They do, and Bernie's endorsement should give her a lift, but I gotta be honest: this attack in France helps Trump, politically.

I predict Hillary continues her margin-of-error lead until the conventions.
 
Fudbucker said:
They do, and Bernie's endorsement should give her a lift, but I gotta be honest: this attack in France helps Trump, politically.

I predict Hillary continues her margin-of-error lead until the conventions.
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Of course, no dangerous current events and Clinton is a neocon. A recent dangerous current event and people flock to the idiot with the pitchforks and torches.

Give me Clinton any day over either Sanders or Trump when it come to these terrorist threats. I think she'd have done a better job than Obama following Bush. When she's elected we'll see if she can make any progress.
 
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Incidentally there is nothing angst-filled or juvenile about observing, for example, that Hillary Clinton and Trump likely both cater to the median voter and thus are not very distinct from each other. Public choice theory is likely beyond the comprehension of most "kids" and, from the look of it, beyond yours as well. Which makes this smug attitude about being the one who's all growded up look kind of silly.
 
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Prokhor Zakharov said:
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Incidentally there is nothing angst-filled or juvenile about observing, for example, that Hillary Clinton and Trump likely both cater to the median voter and thus are not very distinct from each other. Public choice theory is likely beyond the comprehension of most "kids" and, from the look of it, beyond yours as well. Which makes this smug attitude about being the one who's all growded up look kind of silly.
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Trump catering to the median voter? :jaw-dropp

I think not.
 
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Prokhor Zakharov said:
So remind me again how he made it this far?
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Are you serious?

A fraction of the primary voters who are the fraction of GOP voters that vote in the general election, not even a majority of the primary voters, just more than the next candidate, voted for him. Half the establishment GOP are jumping the Trump ship.

Pretty much the definition of a fringe candidate.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Beware of news headlines that don't mean bupkis.

RCP FL polls aren't exactly showing a consistent pattern.

From here until Nov there will be 24/7 news on the election. They don't have anything close to 24/7 things to say.
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Beware RCP and their desire to show a close race. Lookit their poll selections over the past three weeks. JMC. Who? Gravis. Quinnipiac.

Where are Survey USA and YouGov? They are both far more accurate than JMC. Who? But they wouldn't show a slight Trump lead. They'd show Clinton by two points.
 
Fudbucker said:
Then don't make ******** claims. This is why I rarely respond to you. RCP AVERAGE has Trump ahead. I already posted the link.

And no, it's not cherry-picking to link to the most recent polling available, which has Trump up by 3 and 5 in Florida.
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It may not be cherry-picking viz using whatever data RCP has available, but it's cherry-picking:

A. On behalf of RCP. How'd they finesse that average to show Trump ahead?
B. To not check other sites that are reporting polling aggregates and see that RCP is way off on this one.
 
Fudbucker said:
Then don't make ******** claims. This is why I rarely respond to you. RCP AVERAGE has Trump ahead. I already posted the link.

And no, it's not cherry-picking to link to the most recent polling available, which has Trump up by 3 and 5 in Florida.
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And in the NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released today, Clinton is up by 7 points in FL, as well as 9 points in VA, 6 points in NC, and 8 points in CO.

I can't imagine how I posted this before Fudbucker, since he is so keen on going by the most recent polling available. Or does that only happen when the news can be spun as "terrible" for Clinton?
 
wareyin said:
And in the NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released today, Clinton is up by 7 points in FL, as well as 9 points in VA, 6 points in NC, and 8 points in CO.

I can't imagine how I posted this before Fudbucker, since he is so keen on going by the most recent polling available. Or does that only happen when the news can be spun as "terrible" for Clinton?
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Just wait to the post RNC polls come out in the middle of the DNC! Donald is polling relatively low with actually Republicans compared to historical nominees so he could see a bigger boost than usual if some neverTrumpers decide to come home to Republicans. Oh the bed-wetting that will happen on the pollercoaster then.
 
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