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So, Fox News vs Gretchen Carlson

Then the US is far farther along the path to mindless vacuity than my worst fears.

We also now have Fox's token ugly, but still bimbo, Van Susteren, claiming that since she never noticed anything about sexual harrassment, there is nothing. Seems she is missing an obvious point.


I wouldn't say that Van Susteren is ugly. She's just not a "TeaBarbie" like her younger colleagues who sometimes look like they are going to a nightclub, instead of going to work at a news station.
 
Not in my anecdotal experience. My fairly large circle of acquaintances (not quite friends) is full of educated, adult females who trumpet Trump at every chance.
Educated is a relative (loose) term here.

For example, there are very few social psychologists that will support Trump (a fact). But MBAs, that education would do very little to prevent one from joining the Trump cult.
 
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I wouldn't say that Van Susteren is ugly. She's just not a "TeaBarbie" like her younger colleagues who sometimes look like they are going to a nightclub, instead of going to work at a news station.

I think I'm biased. Got so tired of her back when that poor girl went missing in whatever island. And I am miffed that she should now torpedo a colleague. Corporate hack, it would seem.
 
I think I'm biased. Got so tired of her back when that poor girl went missing in whatever island. And I am miffed that she should now torpedo a colleague. Corporate hack, it would seem.

Van Susteren has always been hard-line Fox Conservative. On election night in 2012 she was the first mouthpiece to steer them towards the "Not Conservative Enough" platform and complain dismissal. Prior to that, the anchors and commentators were discussing for several hours where "we" (yes, they were actually using the personal pronoun, dropping any facade of neutrality) went wrong and strategies to re-engage, for instance, with the Hispanic vote. A couple of hours later Greta's segment came on and she started preaching where they wound up going.... "Naaaah, Romney was a weak conservative. A candidate further to the right is what we need to motivate the core right wingers."

And I hate to bring looks into it, but I do have to agree. They have so much eye candy on Fox that if you look at "hottest Fox babes" articles, they mix and match from about 20 different names. They're all hired for their looks. The chance of a horn-dog going after Van Susteren assumes that the other twenty all said no and it was getting close to closing time.
 
More openly in France, Italy and a lot of South of the border stations.

have you seen Central and South American news-shows? Many of them (not all certainly) love the pretty news woman in a short skirt and tight dress.

but then, maybe that amplifies your point. ;)
 
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Between the earlier Breibart incident (different, but equally dismissive of women) and this, I'd be surprised if any Republican gets more than a sliver of the HS graduate and above women's vote.

Then the US is far farther along the path to mindless vacuity than my worst fears.

We also now have Fox's token ugly, but still bimbo, Van Susteren, claiming that since she never noticed anything about sexual harrassment, there is nothing. Seems she is missing an obvious point.

Snort. And yawn. Yet another liberal displays a complete lack of self awareness.
 
have you seen Central and South American news-shows? Many of them (not all certainly) love the pretty news woman in a short skirt and tight dress.

but then, maybe that amplifies your point. ;)
That was part of my point - but it is not just the news shows - it also applied to the talk shows, the game shows, the comedy and variety shows (and the plotted shows, but to a lesser extent). In my research (continuing a line that was initiated in the 60's by a gentlemen who did a book which I have not re-read in twenty plus years that collected materiel from magazines of all sorts that sexualized the ads and content -and we are speaking of Redbook, Ladies Home Journal and the like as well as other...) I have examples from all over the world thanks to the 'net. And it is very common!!!!! Wonder why??????????!
 
Not actually equivalent. The second speaks to known behaviors, ie is fair commentary on a public figure, the first is an example of direct mistreatment.

So what is your evidence that Greta van Susteren is a bimbo (as well as being token ugly, whatever that means)?
 
Whoa, are you guys trying to insinuate that Rachel Maddow, Diane Sawyer and Judy Woodruff aren't smoking hot?
 
Reported earlier today that 5 other Fox females have jumped on the Van S. wagon about the big boss. He may be getting ready to be plucked !!!!! I do, by the by, really hope so!!!!!!!!
 
Reported earlier today that 5 other Fox females have jumped on the Van S. wagon about the big boss. He may be getting ready to be plucked !!!!! I do, by the by, really hope so!!!!!!!!

Actually, six other women have made specific allegations going back 25 years. One was 16 years old when, she says, he locked her in an office with him and pulled down his pants. Chances are that, like Cosby, he's been doing this stuff all his life.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/si...d-them/ar-BBu7SvY?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout
 
Actually, six other women have made specific allegations going back 25 years. One was 16 years old when, she says, he locked her in an office with him and pulled down his pants. Chances are that, like Cosby, he's been doing this stuff all his life.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/si...d-them/ar-BBu7SvY?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout
"they were red like raw hamburger"

**** my life, **** the internet, **** the news, why the hell am I subjecting myself to this ****** ****
 
She didn't like working there, but now she's suing on account of the fact she got fired. Typical broad behavior.
 
She didn't like working there, but now she's suing on account of the fact she got fired. Typical broad behavior.

You think a man couldn't hate his job and still not want or deserve to be fired? Dream on.
 
OK I have been studying psychology for long enough to nail this.

Guy thinks success will get him pussy. Gets success, pussy hates him. Notices other guys getting pussy, thinks to himself "I'm just as good as that guy, he must be doing something different". Settles on abusing power because the thought of a woman wanting to please him because she likes him and what he does for the community would mean he gives away value instead of controlling it so his strategy is based on controlling power instead of giving more.

Did I miss anything?
 
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OK I have been studying psychology for long enough to nail this.

Guy thinks success will get him pussy. Gets success, pussy hates him. Notices other guys getting pussy, thinks to himself "I'm just as good as that guy, he must be doing something different". Settles on abusing power because the thought of a woman wanting to please him because she likes him and what he does for the community would mean he gives away value instead of controlling it so his strategy is based on controlling power instead of giving more.

Did I miss anything?

Yeah, I think you missed the part where he could probably get some through normal channels but enjoys the pressuring, manipulating and bullying. I knew a guy in Hong Kong who was drop-dead gorgeous. He also had a reputation for not being able to keep it in his pants, which I think leads a lot of these guys to thinking they're just "over-sexed" or "sex addicts". The guy in HK, could literally walk to the next corner and get flirted with or offers from at least three women en route. But he was canned for sexual harassment because he literally chased one of his assistants around the conference room table, grabbing at her clothes trying to get them off.

It wasn't any lack of attention/affection from the other sex. It was a totally different set of drivers.
 

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