Tony harasses Bazant

[Crazy Chainsaw]

No, it is that you don't understand how an impulse would have been observed, if it had occurred. It would have been through the velocity loss and the recovery time.

The impulse itself happens too fast, but it isn't necessary to see it as a significant velocity loss would be required and would be the telltale sign.

No velocity loss was observed and the recovery time was more than long enough to have a significant number of measurements which would have shown it if an impulse of the magnitude required to buckle the columns had in fact occurred.

Don't forget I did actual experiments on this that helped, Benson and Greening and actually observed what occurs with objects of similar energy values in Collisions, experiments with tons of materials not pounds, or ounces.

I can also point to flaws in Jones's work, Cole's work, and much more of the pesudo science you subscribe too. If your wanting to simply raise Gage's income this might not be the best place, for that.

 

[DGM]

No, it is that you don't understand how an impulse would have been observed, if it had occurred.

This is a very important statement. I believe this is true but, there is no reason expect a Banzant type of impulse given what was observed in all of the videos.

Tony skips a big step in his analysis. He needs to prove a direct column on column impact over the entire floor would be expected. Using all known video evidence this is not going to happen.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

This is a very important statement. I believe this is true but, there is no reason expect a Banzant type of impulse given what was observed in all of the videos.

Tony skips a big step in his analysis. He needs to prove a direct column on column impact over the entire floor would be expected. Using all known video evidence this is not going to happen.

No he forget the impact is an event that has a limited time, like a bunny rabbit that jumps directly into a black holes event horizon the energy involved in the squish will limit the Time interval of the reaction.
From the observers point of view the bunny rabbit is forever jumping in, we would never see the squashed bunny.
That's what I got Tony to confirm in the frame rate he gave the Jolt could not be captured by the camera, Tony debunked himself.

 

[beachnut]

Why is Tony off by an order of magnitude

You claim you are a structural engineer. Why don't you answer the points in the letter which describe the errors in Dr. Bazant's papers instead of just complaining about it without giving a reason?

I am also wondering just what your comment concerning your estimate of how long I will live is about. My wife took it as a threat and is upset about it. I reported your post and asked the moderators to give me your real name.

Your failure to understand a simple (lol, simple with differential equations...) by Bazant goes hand in hand with your CD fantasy based on zero evidence.

You have no clue why you can't see a major impulse, why a model is not real life... kind of sad you can't comprehend an engineering model.

No, it is that you don't understand how an impulse would have been observed, if it had occurred.

The speed did vary, there was not a constant acceleration. You might want to review the raw data and then explain the different reason why you fail to realize your missing jolt is in the data, because the data matches the impacts and momentum transfer of the WTC collapse. Math and physics proves your missing jolt is there, you have no clue why you failed.

The biggest failure, you can't do the physics.

... It is the velocity loss which is observable and it would take over a second to regain the velocity, ...

You post proof you can't explain and have no practical knowledge of physics and engineering.
It only takes 0.07 to 0.1 second to regain speed of your missing jolts; why can't you do the physics. Why do you lie and say it takes over a second; is it on purpose or due to ignorance of physics?

Your CD claim is a lie, and why have you failed to post your letter to the FBI telling them WTC 7 was CD by people you can't name?

Yes, well, he’s standing right next to a beam that obviously experienced some level of melting — temperatures that could cause melting. - TS

Why does Tony lie about steel which was corroded in fire, saying it melted? Why is CD based on lies.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

You claim you are a structural engineer. Why don't you answer the points in the letter which describe the errors in Dr. Bazant's papers instead of just complaining about it without giving a reason?

The contents of the letter itself provide the reason for criticism:

By your use of free fall through the first story of the collapse it would seem that you had not measured the descent from video.

Bazants papers... especially his earliest ones were premised on a case model without real world bindings. Your criticisms have historically tried to tie it to the real world events. Its difficult to give your criticisms credence because so long after the fact you still havent read the opening paragraphs of said papers which state their limitations explicitely

The irony is if you made your criticisms on the understanding they were limit cases and treated them as such your argument might would have carried a little weight ameritted some discussion.

 

[skyeagle409]

First, you are wrong saying the frame rate of the video used for the measurements was fifty frames per second. The video used for the measurements (the Sauret video) used the NTSC standard, which is 29.97 frames per second (one frame every 33 milliseconds).

Speaking of video, let's take a look here and please point out where demolition explosions are heard as WTC 1 collapses.


WTC 1 Collapse Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzIja6mlRs


In case you are unfamiliar with what demolition explosions sound like, let's review this video.


Controlled Demolition Explosions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4erFzhC-U


Now, once again, where's your video and audio CD evidence? If you are unable to produce such evidence for all to see and hear, you have no CD case. To put it bluntly, there's no CD evidence for you to present.

Playing with figures and words won't cut it without CD evidence.

 

[Dave Rogers]

You've got to admire Tonys consistency. He's likely one of the only people left that believe Bazants model accurately represented reality.

More to the point, he believes that the photographs taken on the day don't accurately represent reality, and will argue passionately for them being faked on the basis that his personal conception of Bazant's oversimplification isn't consistent with them.

Dave

 

[funk de fino]

Tony claimed he saw a video where Silverstein admitted blowing up WTC7. He has never ever been able to find it. This lack of evidence would suggest that he is a liar.

Tony made claims about the NIST report into the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses that were false. This would point to him either not reading them fully or being a liar.

Tony makes basic errors in his analysis. This would point to him not being qualified to comment on this subject.

 

[jaydeehess]

ahhh, the old, missing jolt revisited.

How I didn't miss this.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

ahhh, the old, missing jolt revisited.

How I didn't miss this.

You were lucky, now your not, you found it.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Tony is like a pianist that only knows one note, and keeps playing it over and over and over.
You just have to walk away from it to save your sanity.

 

[Tony Szamboti]

Tony is like a pianist that only knows one note, and keeps playing it over and over and over.
You just have to walk away from it to save your sanity.

Your comment assumes that those on this forum who accept the present nonsensical story we have been given by NIST and others are sane to begin with.

It is very likely they at least suffer from a low level of cognizance and may in fact be less than sane. If they are sane, it is likely to be their job to disagree with anyone questioning the present nonsensical story, no matter how strong the argument, and they suffer from moral turpitude. I would say Zdenek Bazant would be in the latter category if he does not correct the errors in his analyses now that he has been made fully aware of them. If he does correct them I would laud him as an honorable man.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Your comment assumes that those on this forum who accept the present nonsensical story we have been given by NIST and others are sane to begin with.

It is very likely they at least suffer from a low level of cognizance and may in fact be less than sane. If they are sane, it is likely to be their job to disagree with anyone questioning the present nonsensical story and they suffer from moral turpitude.

Speaking of nonsensical, have you viewed one of Cole's experiments lately?

I remind you, you publicly stated support for them, can you tell me in his sulfidication experiment how the h, he would get CO and SO4 to reduce with out a chimney effect creating vortexes allowing for reduction?

Flawed Science is no Science (Nonsense,) Tony.

Please continue the Fraud that is AE/911 truth, Maybe Gage will hire you to mow his Lawn,
Can't see after this why anyone would want your engineering expertise.

You can fool the simpletons of the truth movement as it now exists Tony, but anyone who actually know anything can see right though the advertising campaign Gage is engaged in.

 

[skyeagle409]

Tony claimed he saw a video where Silverstein admitted blowing up WTC7. He has never ever been able to find it. This lack of evidence would suggest that he is a liar.

I agree because if Larry Silverstein had made such a comment on video, he would have been serving time in prison for illegally blowing up a building in New York City.

What person would be so stupid as to admit on video, that he was responsible for illegallly blowing up buildings in New York City?

Answer: Osama bin Laden

Tony made claims about the NIST report into the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses that were false. This would point to him either not reading them fully or being a liar.

Tony makes basic errors in his analysis. This would point to him not being qualified to comment on this subject.

That is correct, and I am beginning to think that Tony is just here for having fun and nothing else.

.

 

[beachnut]

... their job to disagree with anyone questioning ...

More paranoid claptrap driven by the delusion of CD. No engineering, just BS.

 

[DGM]

If he does correct them I would laud him as an honorable man.

Even if this was to happen it does not change the conclusions of the NIST or other reports.

You still have no support for cd, and fire and damage with the recommendation for design changes still hold true.

The NIST was tasked with determine the most likely cause of collapse. They did that and you have done nothing to put that into question.

BTW: I like you're attempt to put into question the sanity of anyone that questions you, at least you're consistent.

 

[skyeagle409]

Your comment assumes that those on this forum who accept the present nonsensical story we have been given by NIST and others are sane to begin with.

BTW, have you found any video that depicts the sound of demolition explosions as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed? If not, then you have no case for CD explosives.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Even if this was to happen it does not change the conclusions of the NIST or other reports.

You still have no support for cd, and fire and damage with the recommendation for design changes still hold true.

The NIST was tasked with determine the most likely cause of collapse. They did that and you have done nothing to put that into question.

BTW: I like you're attempt to put into question the sanity of anyone that questions you, at least you're consistent.

Sadly DGM, Tony like Steven Jones is an unreasonable man, he is like an old dog with a bone,
The bone will petrify into a fossil, and still he will not give it up.
Jones couldn't see that heating the Aluminum in a furnace was not recreating the fires in the twin towers, in any way. Spraying water on aluminum wasn't the same as how a hydrogen reaction occurs, It was sad seeing someone in charge of educating young minds be so clueless in his own flaws.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Question for You Tony, as the best and Brightest at AE/911Truth, have you informed Johnathan Cole, that if he were to create a copper oxide thermite fuse, layer that against the steel then mix thermite with a thermally released Oxydant, he would increase the cutting efficiently of thermite by 65-70%?

Oh you can also Use thermite with O2, as they did locally around here to cut though the steel in an old rail road trestle.

The problem you have however is getting a device to function in a fire, fire can cause thermite to become inert.

 

[NoahFence]

Your comment assumes that those on this forum who accept the present nonsensical story we have been given by NIST and others are sane to begin with.

It is very likely they at least suffer from a low level of cognizance and may in fact be less than sane. If they are sane, it is likely to be their job to disagree with anyone questioning the present nonsensical story, no matter how strong the argument, and they suffer from moral turpitude. I would say Zdenek Bazant would be in the latter category if he does not correct the errors in his analyses now that he has been made fully aware of them. If he does correct them I would laud him as an honorable man.

If it's so nonsensical, this "official story" you hate so much, why is it the only one that accounts for the entire day's events?

Why have none of you nitwits EVER even come close to tying together the entire day's events?

It's because you can't - and you know it.