Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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Axiom_Blade said:
"You shouldn't vote for a third party, because they have no chance of winning."
Why do they have no chance of winning?
Because people don't vote for them... :mgduh
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That and the people voting for 3rd party aren't doing so with the goal of winning this election.

This has been explained to them a thousand times but they just keep repeating their tired worn out argument as though the thousand and first time it'll finally be convincing.
 
The_Animus said:
That and the people voting for 3rd party aren't doing so with the goal of winning this election.

This has been explained to them a thousand times but they just keep repeating their tired worn out argument as though the thousand and first time it'll finally be convincing.
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For a long time, the powerful have had the good cop Democrats and the bad cop Republicans. The people need a good cop and a bad cop of their own. Right now, the good cops are the Berniecrats, trying to pull the party's agenda to the left by working within it. The Greens are the bad cops. We're trying to overthrow and replace the Democrat Party.

The Berniecrats can use us for leverage. They can say, "Hey, if you don't want to move to the left, maybe we'll just take our votes elsewhere." Without the external threat of a third party, I don't think that the Democrat left would have any leverage whatsoever.

That's one way of looking at it. Of course, I would like us to win an election, and I work towards that. But, hey, if it doesn't happen, getting our ideas out there and moving the Democrats to the left is a good thing, too.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
"You shouldn't vote for a third party, because they have no chance of winning."
Why do they have no chance of winning?
Because people don't vote for them... :mgduh
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Yes Mr Nadar. Just keep telling yourself it has nothing to do with becoming a winning candidate before the election, it has to do with thinking magically when voting.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Yes Mr Nadar. Just keep telling yourself it has nothing to do with becoming a winning candidate before the election, it has to do with thinking magically when voting.
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Who's Nadar?

I'm voting for the candidate who I think is best. I'm not going to be tricked into wasting my vote on somebody I don't support.
 
Disabling security for Clinton server laid out 'welcome mat' for hackers

A 2010 decision temporarily disabling State Department security features to accommodate Hillary Clinton’s private server effectively laid out a "welcome mat" for hackers and foreign intelligence services, a leading IT official who oversaw computer security at the Defense Intelligence Agency told Fox News.

"You're putting not just the Clinton server at risk but the entire Department of State emails at risk," said Bob Gourley, former chief technology officer (CTO) for the DIA. "When you turn off your defensive mechanisms and you're connected to the Internet, you're almost laying out the welcome mat for anyone to intrude and attack and steal your secrets."

The FBI is investigating Clinton's emails practices. Agents are looking into whether classified information was taken outside secure government channels, and whether the server was compromised by a third party. Fox News first reported in January the FBI investigation had expanded to public corruption and whether the possible “intersection” of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws, according to three intelligence sources.

Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-server-laid-out-welcome-mat-for-hackers.html (June 25, 2016)
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As of 2014, the Clinton Foundation had raised almost $2 billion from U.S. corporations especially Wall Street; foreign governments who sponsor terrorism and imprison gays; and political donors:
Brunei: ($1 million-$5 million) Brunei's penal code states: "Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman, or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 10 years."

Goldman Sachs: ($1 million-$5 million) Too big to fail bank: guilty of raping the American taxpayer.

Kuwait: ($5 million-$10 million) Kuwaiti law states: "Consensual intercourse between men of full age (from the age of 21) shall be punishable with a term of imprisonment of up to seven years."

Oman: ($1 million-$5 million) Law states: "Anyone who commits erotic acts with a person of the same sex shall be sentenced to imprisonment from six months to three years."

Qatar: ($1 million-$5 million) Sentences for acts of homosexuality range from one to seven years in prison.

Saudi Arabia: ($10 million-$25 million) Islamic law in Saudi Arabia enforces penalties for homosexual sex, ranging from public flogging to death. For a non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim, the penalty is death by stoning.

United Arab Emirates: ($1 million-$5 million) Emirati law states: "All sexual acts outside of heterosexual marriage are banned in the United Arab Emirates."​

Reference:
Rights groups silent as Clinton Foundation takes millions from countries that imprison gays (June 17, 2016)
 
Slings and Arrows said:
"It is almost always the cover-up rather than the event that causes trouble." -- Senator Howard Baker, circa 1974
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Well, ...

You have quoted Pravda to bitch about Hillary Clinton and now you are using a 43 year-old quote regarding former President Nixon to bitch about Hillary Clinton.

Therefore, ...

If and when there is a day when you actually have some that is both current and factual to bitch about Hillary Clinton, then please share it with us. Otherwise, you bitching is worth the paper that it is written on.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
For a long time, the powerful have had the good cop Democrats and the bad cop Republicans. The people need a good cop and a bad cop of their own. Right now, the good cops are the Berniecrats, trying to pull the party's agenda to the left by working within it. The Greens are the bad cops. We're trying to overthrow and replace the Democrat Party.

The Berniecrats can use us for leverage. They can say, "Hey, if you don't want to move to the left, maybe we'll just take our votes elsewhere." Without the external threat of a third party, I don't think that the Democrat left would have any leverage whatsoever.

That's one way of looking at it. Of course, I would like us to win an election, and I work towards that. But, hey, if it doesn't happen, getting our ideas out there and moving the Democrats to the left is a good thing, too.
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I don't the petulant Bernie Bro dumbasses that don't vote for Hillary even care about the issues that Bernie brings up. There is a reason Bernie himself is going to vote for Hillary.
 
The most extreme Bernie supporters need to look at what happened in Nazi Germany,when many on the left refused to support the Social Democrats because they "were just as bad as the Nazis".
 
Why Julian Assange Doesn’t Want Hillary Clinton to Be President

Assange makes no reservations that he’s staunchly against Hillary Clinton becoming president of the United States, as she represents the corruption he sought to combat with the creation of WikiLeaks. Clinton’s unauthorized use of a private email server during her service as secretary of state illuminates the measures she is willing to take to circumvent transparency—even when it means breaking the law.

“I have had years of experience in dealing with Hillary Clinton and have read thousands of her cables. Hillary lacks judgement and will push the United States into endless, stupid wars which spread terrorism. Her personality combined with her poor policy decisions have directly contributed to the rise of ISIS,” Assange wrote on WikiLeaks in February 2016.

“She’s a war hawk with bad judgement who gets an unseemly emotional rush out of killing people,” he added, in reference to a video of Clinton celebrating the overthrow of Libya’s leader, Muammar Gaddafi. In an interview with CBS News, Clinton laughed, “We came, we saw, he died.”

Read more:
http://observer.com/2016/06/why-julian-assange-doesnt-want-hillary-clinton-to-be-president/ (June 24, 2016)
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Reference:
"The last moments of Muammar Gaddafi" -- Warning: video of the actual death scene!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR8A2cpz_E&bpctr=1466977211 (2 minutes)

CBS News interview—"Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y (11 seconds)​


Muammar Gaddafi was a murderous thug who got exactly what he deserved. But as far as Crooked Hillary laughing about his gruesome demise, well you decide for yourself if that was an appropriate response. Needless to say, Julian Assange was offended by her cavalier attitude.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Reference:
"The last moments of Muammar Gaddafi" -- Warning: video of the actual death scene!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR8A2cpz_E&bpctr=1466977211 (2 minutes)

CBS News interview—"Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y (11 seconds)​


Muammar Gaddafi was a murderous thug who got exactly what he deserved. But as far as Crooked Hillary laughing about his gruesome demise, well you decide for yourself if that was an appropriate response. Needless to say, Julian Assange was offended by her cavalier attitude.
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What I find priceless about this thread is the way right-wingers are quoting Assange with approval when he criticises Hillary. The same people who would love to bring him to the US and lynch him. The laughs keep coming.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Reference:
"The last moments of Muammar Gaddafi" -- Warning: video of the actual death scene!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR8A2cpz_E&bpctr=1466977211 (2 minutes)

CBS News interview—"Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y (11 seconds)​


Muammar Gaddafi was a murderous thug who got exactly what he deserved. But as far as Crooked Hillary laughing about his gruesome demise, well you decide for yourself if that was an appropriate response. Needless to say, Julian Assange was offended by her cavalier attitude.
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Julian Assange, the guy who has been hiding out from rape charges for years?
 
I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.

I get that people lose all sense of perspective when they plant their flag but this is ridiculous.
 
Travis said:
I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.

I get that people lose all sense of perspective when they plant their flag but this is ridiculous.
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When they were in the Senate together, they voted the same like 93% of the time. But to some purity testing Bernie Bro dumbasses, Hillary is so right wing she is practically a Republican.
 
Travis said:
I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.
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Compared to what? They are certainly much closer to each other than either is to any current Republicans, but their personal histories, economic views and foreign policy philosophies are distinctly different. "They're all the same" isn't a very sophisticated assessment.
 
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