Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

[Bob001]

Julian Assange, the guy who has been hiding out from rape charges for years?

As I understand it, he is wanted for questioning in Sweden in connection with those allegations, but he has never been charged with anything. His real fear is that if he leaves the protection of the Ecuadorean embassy, he will be extradited to the U.S. and prosecuted for espionage. He's "hiding out" -- in plain view -- from U.S. prison.

 

[Fitter]

As I understand it, he is wanted for questioning in Sweden in connection with those allegations, but he has never been charged with anything. His real fear is that if he leaves the protection of the Ecuadorean embassy, he will be extradited to the U.S. and prosecuted for espionage. He's "hiding out" -- in plain view -- from U.S. prison.

Well that's his claim, not sure I buy it.

 

[Tony Stark]

As I understand it, he is wanted for questioning in Sweden in connection with those allegations, but he has never been charged with anything. His real fear is that if he leaves the protection of the Ecuadorean embassy, he will be extradited to the U.S. and prosecuted for espionage. He's "hiding out" -- in plain view -- from U.S. prison.

Yeah, he's a *********** liar. If he was so worried about being extradited to the US he wouldn't have been in the UK in the first place. They are far more likely to comply with a US extradition request than Sweden is.

 

[wareyin]

I'm voting for the candidate who I think is best. I'm not going to be tricked into wasting my vote on somebody I don't support.

What an interesting claim. Is it better to waste your vote on someone who can't win if you feel like you weren't tricked into wasting it?

 

[Crossbow]

Reference:

"The last moments of Muammar Gaddafi" -- Warning: video of the actual death scene!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR8A2cpz_E&bpctr=1466977211 (2 minutes)

CBS News interview—"Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y (11 seconds)​

Muammar Gaddafi was a murderous thug who got exactly what he deserved. But as far as Crooked Hillary laughing about his gruesome demise, well you decide for yourself if that was an appropriate response. Needless to say, Julian Assange was offended by her cavalier attitude.

Julian Assange is welcome to his opinons, however his opinions do not influence my opinions.

 

[beren]

As I understand it, he is wanted for questioning in Sweden in connection with those allegations, but he has never been charged with anything. His real fear is that if he leaves the protection of the Ecuadorean embassy, he will be extradited to the U.S. and prosecuted for espionage. He's "hiding out" -- in plain view -- from U.S. prison.

My understanding is that they literally can't legally charge him author interviewing him first, and he is hiding from the interview.

#loophole #technicality

That said, I heard this a long time ago and may have it wrong.

 

[theprestige]

As I understand it, he is wanted for questioning in Sweden in connection with those allegations, but he has never been charged with anything. His real fear is that if he leaves the protection of the Ecuadorean embassy, he will be extradited to the U.S. and prosecuted for espionage. He's "hiding out" -- in plain view -- from U.S. prison.

This is not the thread for it, but your understanding is wrong. Head over to the Assange thread if you'd like to rehash the topic yet again.

 

[Travis]

Compared to what? They are certainly much closer to each other than either is to any current Republicans, but their personal histories, economic views and foreign policy philosophies are distinctly different. "They're all the same" isn't a very sophisticated assessment.

They are not all the same. But they are pretty similar to each other.

I mean if you line up all the major issues and exam their history on them you'll find that they are just not far apart and Hillary is to the left of Bernie on many of them.

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

In case none of you noticed, Hillary's email scandal has become more of an email coverup as we now know that she has intentionally withheld some of the emails from the investigation. It's getting very little coverage and being effectively hidden by the Brexit news. But to the real skeptics among us, this isn't much of a surprise.

 

[DavidJames]

In case none of you noticed, Hillary's email scandal has become more of an email coverup as we now know that she has intentionally withheld some of the emails from the investigation. It's getting very little coverage and being effectively hidden by the Brexit news. But to the real skeptics among us, this isn't much of a surprise.

I think rational people are waiting for the investigation to complete before pronouncing guilt and hanging her.

Sucks for the HDS all the time folks, but that's how reality works.

 

[wareyin]

In case none of you noticed, Hillary's email scandal has become more of an email coverup as we now know that she has intentionally withheld some of the emails from the investigation. It's getting very little coverage and being effectively hidden by the Brexit news. But to the real skeptics among us, this isn't much of a surprise.

"Real skeptics" don't need evidence to declare guilt? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[The Big Dog]

I think rational people are waiting for the investigation to complete before pronouncing guilt and hanging her.

Sucks for the HDS all the time folks, but that's how reality works.

handwaving away undisputed evidence that she lied about "producing all her emails"?

Sounds "rational."

We know, leave Hillary alone.

 

[Crossbow]

handwaving away undisputed evidence that she lied about "producing all her emails"?

Sounds "rational."

We know, leave Hillary alone.

If, and when, you actually have something substantive to bitch about, then please share it with us.

Otherwise, your bitching is not worth the paper that it is written on.

 

[Bob001]

This is not the thread for it, but your understanding is wrong. Head over to the Assange thread if you'd like to rehash the topic yet again.

Fair enough. I just note that whatever is true of Assange and his motives doesn't diminish the truth or significance of the documents Wikileaks has revealed. The message stands apart from the messenger.

 

[dudalb]

I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.

I get that people lose all sense of perspective when they plant their flag but this is ridiculous.

It's more about style, then substance on many issues.

 

[Fudbucker]

DOn't know much history,do you?

What's going on now isn't even close to Nazi Germany. Comparing the two just makes you look silly. Trump is not Hitler. We've had bad presidents before and we'll have them again. Our system limits the amount of damage they can do.

 

[Fudbucker]

I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.

I get that people lose all sense of perspective when they plant their flag but this is ridiculous.

Unless you're an environmentalist or work on Wall Street or receive health care or pay for college or are super-rich, yeah, Bernie and Hillary wouldn't be that different.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I continue to maintain that Hillary and Bernie are simply not that different. They. Just. Aren't.

Here are just a few of their many differences:

- Bernie Sanders doesn't take $675,000 bribes from Goldman Sachs and other criminals.

- Sanders doesn't accept multi-million dollar donations from foreign governments who sponsor terrorism and imprison homosexuals (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, et al).

- Sanders doesn't have an unencrypted private server set up in his home in order to circumvent transparency laws (FOIA).

- Sanders is not currently the target of a "criminal investigation" by the FBI.

- Sanders doesn't hire paid shills to spread propaganda on Twitter and Facebook.

- Sanders' spouse doesn't drop her trousers every time a member of the opposite sex gets within a 10 foot range.

- Sanders is a self-proclaimed socialist, and for the most part, basically honest. Conversely, Crooked Hillary is a staunch supporter of pay-to-play crony-capitalism, and every time she opens her mouth another lie comes out.​

 

[jhunter1163]

Here are just a few of their many differences:

- Bernie Sanders doesn't take $675,000 bribes from Goldman Sachs and other criminals.

- Sanders doesn't accept multi-million dollar donations from foreign governments who sponsor terrorism and imprison homosexuals.

- Sanders doesn't have an unencrypted private server set up in his home in order to circumvent transparency laws (FOIA).

- Sanders is not currently the target of a "criminal investigation" by the FBI.

- Sanders' spouse doesn't drop her trousers every time a member of the opposite sex gets within a 10 foot range.

- Sanders is a self-proclaimed socialist, and for the most part, basically honest. Conversely, Crooked Hillary is a staunch supporter of pay-to-play crony-capitalism, and every time she opens her mouth another lie comes out.​

- Sanders is done. Hillary Clinton isn't.

 

[Fudbucker]

- Sanders is done. Hillary Clinton isn't.

I would hold off on celebrating just yet. The email story keeps getting legs, and not just on fringe outlets anymore:

"An additional 165 pages of emails from Hillary Clinton's time at the State Department surfaced Monday, including nearly three dozen that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee failed to hand over last year that were sent through her private server."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/clinton-emails-released-including-deleted-40168595

"WASHINGTON (AP) — State Department staffers wrestled for weeks in December 2010 over a serious technical problem that affected emails from then-Secretary Hillary Clinton's home email server, causing them to temporarily disable security features on the government's own systems, according to emails released Wednesday."
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7006...ey-security-features-disabled-clintons-server