Brexit: the referendum

Got to admit I like Ruth Davidson's style even though I don't like what she says. If she wasn't a Tory I'd vote for her. If she replaced Cameron I wouldn't be disappointed. She seems semi reasonable
 
Sunderland massively in favour of Leave: 39/61

ETA: Total so far: 158537 remain vs. 161744 leave.
 
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Fellow Scottish Nationalists will appreciate it when I say I see the result as a win-win for our country, whichever way it goes.
 
Sunderland massively in favour of Leave: 39/61


Sunderland was heavily targeted by UKIP and Leave, because it's traditionally one of the first places to announce poll results, so it carries an unnaturally high profile on the results shows. And Newcastle, being geographically adjacent to Sunderland, might well have had some knock-on effect.

IMO there is no chance whatsoever of a "Leave" outcome, and that the result will be a robust "Remain" outcome (I predict 53/47 FWIW). Betting exchanges, city polls and forex markets* are all good places to go for seeing which way the wind is blowing (and better, I'd suggest, than the traditional polling companies, whose methodologies are still deeply flawed when it comes to accurate predictions of real-world outcomes).

And just perusing the BBC right now, I see they are trying to ape their General Election style by making predictions on a "local authority by local authority" basis (just as they would make predictions on a constituency-by-constituency basis in a General Election). The fundamental problem however is that one can make reasonably robust predictions on how national moods map onto predictions for political constituencies in a General Election, since there's a long history of voting patterns to use as a baseline. By contrast, there's no realistic way of mapping national opinion forecasts onto an LA-by-LA basis for this EU Referendum, since there are no comparator historical data.

The only ways in which it would make any sense to try to predict on an LA-by-LA basis would be either to try (unsuccessfully, IMO - except for in the obvious case of UKIP) to map party political allegiances onto Remain/Leave, or to conduct separate polls in each LA or small cluster of LAs (which, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been done).

*Sterling dropped sharply on the Sunderland and Newcastle results. But IMO this is due to Sterling over-valuation over the past few days and especially during the course of polling day (owing to a lot of support for the pound on the basis of a very high probability of "Remain") and profit-taking by early traders in the Far East. No need for alarm just yet!!
 
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Dear Scotland,

Can I move in please? I'll vote for independence.

Yours sincerely,
MarkCorrigan
 
Sunderland was heavily targeted by UKIP and Leave, because it's traditionally one of the first places to announce poll results, so it carries an unnaturally high profile on the results shows. And Newcastle, being geographically adjacent to Sunderland, might well have had some knock-on effect.

IMO there is no chance whatsoever of a "Leave" outcome, and that the result will be a robust "Remain" outcome (I predict 53/47 FWIW). Betting exchanges, city polls and forex markets* are all good places to go for seeing which way the wind is blowing (and better, I'd suggest, than the traditional polling companies, whose methodologies are still deeply flawed when it comes to accurate predictions of real-world outcomes).

And just perusing the BBC right now, I see they are trying to ape their General Election style by making predictions on a "local authority by local authority" basis (just as they would make predictions on a constituency-by-constituency basis in a General Election). The fundamental problem however is that one can make reasonably robust predictions on how national moods map onto predictions for political constituencies in a General Election, since there's a long history of voting patterns to use as a baseline. By contrast, there's no realistic way of mapping national opinion forecasts onto an LA-by-LA basis for this EU Referendum, since there are no comparator historical data.

The only ways in which it would make any sense to try to predict on an LA-by-LA basis would be either to try (unsuccessfully, IMO - except for in the obvious case of UKIP) to map party political allegiances onto Remain/Leave, or to conduct separate polls in each LA or small cluster of LAs (which, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been done).

*Stirling dropped sharply on the Sunderland and Newcastle results. But IMO this is due to Stirling over-valuation over the past few days and especially during the course of polling day (owing to a lot of support for the pound on the basis of a very high probability of "Remain") and profit-taking by early traders in the Far East. No need for alarm just yet!!

I very much hope you are right, but I have a bad feeling about this after the Newcastle-upon-Tyne majority was far slimmer than expected. And the pound has just dropped sharply against the dollar following the Sunderland result.

Well, we'll just have to wait and see at this point...
 
Not wanting to point out the bleeding obvious, or to turn this into a Rolfe/SNP blog, accusations of BBC bias in reporting are infinitely and, laughably untrue.

Every person on this planet can watch, now, to verify this fact.

And, for people pretending to be "monitoring the market"... ,(as I'm awaiting my ban), with all due respect... **** off. There is a popular board game children have been playing for many years, based upon pretending to to be financially astute.

/MonacleOFF
 
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Geordies. There's no explaining them.

Sterling down 6%, boo-yah for anyone on the right side of that adjustment.


Haha yep. And damn my mob autocorrect (and fast typing without looking properly) for using the name of a Scottish city instead of the term for the UK currency in my initial pre-edit post! :p
 
IMO there is no chance whatsoever of a "Leave" outcome, and that the result will be a robust "Remain" outcome (I predict 53/47 FWIW).

I am not sure I'd call a 53/47 result "robust"

The fundamental problem however is that one can make reasonably robust predictions [...] in a General Election, [...] there's no realistic way of mapping national opinion forecasts onto an LA-by-LA basis for this EU Referendum, since there are no comparator historical data.

True, which makes you wonder how one can be confident in Betting exchanges/forex markets/polling companies and so on.

*Stirling dropped sharply on the Sunderland and Newcastle results.

If that's true then Scotland might have larger problems to contend with in the short term ;)
 
This is starting to get depressing.

Really depressing. Nuneaton and Bedworth looking like it might be 80/20 to leave? Bloody chav morons.
 

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