This is exactly how over the years that the guilter-PR machine has converted people to an innocence point of view.
How?
Note that Vixen just gave this thread "the guilter spin" in her post, while providing no link for someone to confirm/disprove what she claims.
I believe it was Methos who, in reply, simply provided a link to the article in question - a link provided with no comment one way or another. In other words, no spin, just the evidence itself.
How many of us over the years similarly tried to chase down these guilter talking points - advanced without reference, without proof, without anything except added slurs?
These were mine - at first it was the declared impossibility of Rudy breaking in through Filomena's window. There was a powerpoint produced claiming to show how impossible it was to climb? I ran into this, though, with the guilter assertion - THEN I found that powerpoint, and it was hogwash.
Then I was accused of making Amanda, "your little darling murderer." Huh!? When I asked why they'd claim that. they said (On Sharon Feinstein's old blog), "Your little darling murderer had sex on a train."
Huh!? I can't believe the hours I wasted on that one. First off, she didn't, second off - what did that possibly have to do with the night of Nov 1st in 2007? (Since it has morphed in the guilter mind that Knox exchanged sex for drugs, and that a phantom number in her cellphone was supposed to be her connection to the underground drug-world in Perugia!!! Of course, no evidence is given for this..... but that's the point).
Then it was, "all the lies Amanda told." No one would tell me what those lies were, apart from their claim that Amanda's "confession" including Lumumba was a lie in the strictest sense of the word, which it was not.
I can't believe the hours I spent in actually listing those claimed lies, mainly gleaned from Harry Rag's PR-campaign against the kids. HR's list was the epitome of begging the question.
Then it was "mixed blood". That claim was part of a carpet-bombing of comments' sections in every on-line outlet that covered this. It turns out there was no mixed blood, which finally after years of carpet bombing the internet with it, even HR was forced to admit.
So - Vixen posts "spin" about a West Seattle Herald piece; and it turns out to have said something very different than Vixen's PR-fantasy.
What else is new?
As I am inviting lurkers to do - if any are left - please make one post about which way have you-lurkers been pushed by what you've read here?
Bill Williams has made good points about PGP arguments. If there was a mountain of evidence and a strong case against Amanda and Raffaele, why is that the arguments of PGP are exactly the arguments you expect people to resort when the prosecution have a weak case and lack of evidence :-
• If the prosecution have a weak case and lack of evidence, PGP will have to resort to lying because they have a lack of genuine evidence to base their arguments on.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: As I have shown in previous posts, PGP use the comments sections of articles and Amazon to spread falsehoods. The fake wiki themurderofmeredithkercher.com is full of falsehoods. Vixen habitually lies in her posts. Below is a recent lie from her post dated the 18th of June “
“which is why, when she found twelve human traces on the blade in the striations”
In fact when C&V when the knife was tested it was negative for the human species.
• If the prosecution have a weak case, PGP will rely on what the defendants have done outside the crime to argue their case because there is a lack direct evidence to base their arguments on. In addition, they will have to resort to lying about what suspects have done outside the crime.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: PGP rely heavily on things Amanda and Raffaele have done outside the murder to argue their case eg Amanda’s noise violation ticket, Raffaele reading Manga comics. PGP have lied about what Amanda and Raffaele have done outside Meredith’s murder. Themurderofmeredithkercher.com lied that Raffaele had stabbed a girl in school. Vixen recently lied that Amanda condoned rape in an article she wrote.
• Being unable to answer questions about the evidence or explain the conduct of the prosecution because the prosecution’s evidence is not valid.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: I asked Machiavelli to tell how much DNA was on the knife and he was unable to do so. Vixen could not explain why the prosecution would have to resort to lying, suppressing evidence and using false documents if the DNA on the knife was valid.
If the PGP have a lack of credible evidence to base their arguments, they will often resort to stupid and illogical arguments.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: The arguments used by PGP are often illogical and stupid. For instance, PGP argue Amanda telling Meredith always locked her door was her trying to delay the discovery of the body. Amanda and Raffaele were the first people to go the cottage, they phoned the police, Meredith’s phone, the housemates, Raffaele’s sister and the police to bring attention to strange findings in the cottage. It is ridiculous to accuse Amanda and Raffaele of trying to delay the discovery of the body when they raised the alarm in the first place.
• Having to make claims with no evidence to support them
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: The PGP have made claims with no evidence to back them up. For instance, TJMK and Vixen constantly accuse Amanda of having a virulent hatred of Meredith. If this hatred existed, why is there no evidence of this hatred?
• Lying that your claims are based on court documents when your arguments don’t appear in court documents or contradict court documents.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: The fake wiki themurderofmeredithercher.com claim one of Meredith’s friend was so concerned about Amanda’s behaviour she went to the police which did not happen and is not documented in court documents. The section of the fake wiki contradicts what C&V wrote in their report.
If the prosecution’s evidence is not valid, PGP will not be able to respond to rebuttals of the prosecution’s case.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: Machiavelli constantly talked about how incompetent C&V were but strangely could not write a rebuttal of their report.
• If the defence have demolished the prosecution’s arguments, PGP will lie about the arguments presented by the defence to hide this.
What happened with Amanda and Raffaele: TJMK claim that the defence never showed how Raffaele’s DNA on the clasp could get there through innocent means and were unable to prove contamination when in fact the defence have provided convincing arguments proving otherwise.
Vixen wrote the following in a post from the 7th of June.
“according to defense 'expert' Vinci, Raff's solid DNA imprint was on the bra c clasp,”
The defence’s arguments contradict Vixen’s claims and this as shown in an extract from the Raffaele’s appeal for the Hellman court :-
The prosecution claimed that there was an abundant amount of DNA on the clasp. It was stated by the prosecution that Raffaele’s DNA on the clasp was abundant. This is not the case. Raffaele’s DNA was mixed with other DNA. Testing confirmed the victim’s DNA was present along with at least three other unidentified people. The defence argues that proper analysis the DNA on the clasp shows that Raffaele’s DNA is not abundant at all. With proper testing, Raffaele’s alleged DNA is only 1/6 of the total sample. The prosecution agreed with this analysis. That calculation is a best case scenario. In actuality, it could easily be less than 1/6. This lowers the genetic material that is attributed to Raffaele to well under 200 picograms, the standard minimum to be used for normal DNA analysis. In order for the sample to be tested properly, LCN analysis would have been necessary. LCN testing was not done by the prosecution’s experts on the clasp. The defense argues that proper testing shows that some strands do not match Raffaele’s DNA. The defense expert was only able to test a few strands. The court did not understand that if any strands did not match then it wasn’t Raffaele’s DNA. The defense argues that additional testing will prove that the DNA does not belong to Raffaele. This additional testing should be granted on appeal.
, preferably of course Euro, since the Deutsche Mark is history 
