I found the missing Jolt.

ozeco41 said:
That cannot be true - truthers assure us that nothing happens for the first time.

:runaway
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Be good or I will have my friend Angie from down under, carve one of her sculptures in your yard. When you are doing art with a chainsaw, and it takes a microscope to see it your either good, or tiny.
OZ if I could still see to do it I could carve ozeco41 on a human hair with a running chainsaw. Now it is hard just to see the hair.
 
Proposed debate between myself and tfk

tfk, the 911 free forum has said it was willing to host a debate between you and I where the thread would be dedicated to it with no other posters.

I would also want it to be limited to one post per day per person to allow for thoughtful discussion.

Are you willing to try to defend your wild assertions in that type of format?
 
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
I really do not care if you (believe me or not), up to you, oh incidently there is a joke hidden in that sentence for the old timers here who know me.
Something About why I have the name I have on my avatar.
I also happen to be some what famous as a one of a kind.

PS. I can tell you the engineer your looking for had detailed knowledge of building 7 his firm built it.
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It sounds like you meant his firm designed it, and that the engineer was Irwin Cantor himself or someone from Cantor Engineering.
 
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Tony Szamboti said:
tfk, the 911 free forum has said it was willing to host a debate between you and I where the thread would be dedicated to it with no other posters.

I would also want it to be limited to one post per day per person to allow for thoughtful discussion.

Are you willing to try to defend your wild assertions in that type of format?
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Good move Tony.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
It sounds like you meant his firm designed it, and that the engineer was Irwin Cantor himself or someone from Cantor Engineering.
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I can't tell you exactly who but you're close, you want the person with the most knowledge of the existing building too make a call like that, he has to also know what is stored in the building to know the fuel loading. The fuel load being critical to determination of the time of most risk of collapse.
I didn't understand that myself until the engineer explained it to me.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
I really do not care if you (believe me or not), up to you, oh incidently there is a joke hidden in that sentence for the old timers here who know me.
Something About why I have the name I have on my avatar.
I also happen to be some what famous as a one of a kind.

PS. I can tell you the engineer your looking for had detailed knowledge of building 7 his firm built it.
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Why did Michael Currid say that the engineer came from the Office of Emergency Management?
 
MicahJava said:
Why did Michael Currid say that the engineer came from the Office of Emergency Management?
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Are you saying the office of emergency management would not subcontract an engineering firm? Usually that is how it works, you don't need emergency management engineers all the time, best to subcontract, to an engineering firm.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Are you saying the office of emergency management would not subcontract an engineering firm? Usually that is how it works, you don't need emergency management engineers all the time, best to subcontract, to an engineering firm.
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When and where did this engineer show up?
 
MicahJava said:
Information on these "hundreds of professionals"? Are you referring to any firefighter that was there? Also, nice card you played there.
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Yes, any FDNY firefighter qualifies as a professional. It's their city, they are trained on dealing with the many different structures they will face when fighting a blaze. An average firefighter can read a burning building quickly and make appropriate plans to prosecute the blaze - or not. The radio chatter, as the afternoon of 9-11, featured updates and comments about 7's deterioration.

The fact that nobody was killed by 7 when it came down means that many people were keeping a close eye on it (which should be obvious).

Truthers are the one people who think what the FDNY did was impossible.
 
Axxman300 said:
Yes, any FDNY firefighter qualifies as a professional. It's their city, they are trained on dealing with the many different structures they will face when fighting a blaze. An average firefighter can read a burning building quickly and make appropriate plans to prosecute the blaze - or not. The radio chatter, as the afternoon of 9-11, featured updates and comments about 7's deterioration.

The fact that nobody was killed by 7 when it came down means that many people were keeping a close eye on it (which should be obvious).

Truthers are the one people who think what the FDNY did was impossible.
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What basis was there at 11:30 AM to judge if and when the building would collapse?
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
He was already at the training exercise that morning.
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Yeah, for all I know you're playing games. It seems like your claim about knowing the engineer Peter Hayden spoke to is about as credible as Beverly Oliver saying she's Babushka Lady.
 
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