I found the missing Jolt.
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Axxman300
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Funny how you keep quacking about the need for a new investigation when it is painfully obvious you haven't read any of the original reports. If you had done any actual "research" you'd know that many final 9-11 reports were critical of the lack of safety gear for the WTC security and maintenance staff.
Plus, why would a guy who was planting explosives illegally in a building walk in front of a camera? You don't seem to understand that your version of events is a capital crime. This guy is just going to implicate himself?
Tony Szamboti
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There was no need for charges on the exterior columns. This has already been explained and how free fall would still result from just a large number of floors of the core columns being removed.
Danny Jowenko explained this years ago.
Tony Szamboti
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There is the vertical kink in the east penthouse and the horizontal kink in the north face. I was referring to the latter. Maybe you need to be clear about what you are saying and it isn't clear why you would so easily take what I said out of context.
Forums like these are not the best place for technical discussions and obviously have a different purpose. I really have to wonder why you and some others seem to hang out here so much.
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What were his other choices?
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Tony Szamboti
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I know you have something symmetrical under the back of your pants. Are you talking out of it right now?
Did you get that from Balsamo?
This is your best... You use simile, and symmetry that was not present, to support a failed fantasy inside job of CD which never happened. 14 solid years of BS, failure and fantasy, with silent explosives with no blast effects and thermite with zero products.
... WTC 1 and 2 were not CD - Danny Jowenko. Good job debunking CD.
You have no techical aspects to discuss; your CD claims are a fantasy based on paranioa and nonsense; no technical stuff at all; you can't explain what is required to see your missing jolt; you never did an error anaylisis to discuss technically frame rates, pixel/camera resolution to see a jolt if the WTC acted like a perfect momentum model. Then you ignore the fact the acceleration/velocity rates and valuse are similar to a simple momentum model for a gravity collapse, and then claim those rates associated with a gravity collapse model are poof of CD. That is dumber than dirt, big fail for 14 years of tilting at CD fantasy.
Did you say we are being paid? Kind of paranoid; we are not really hanging out here, there is no here. We can use our phones at the bar, at the ballgame, in the hot tub, etc. We can post from anywhere, anytime, there is no here in here; it does not exist, it is all bits...
"We are not hanging out here, we are hanging out here... -
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Axxman300
Philosopher
Freight elevator, other staircases, not being in the building at all....
LSSBB
Devilish Dictionarian
Or shoot the cameras or spray paint them, like in all the other Hollywood scenarios of which CD on a damaged burning building is an example.
DGM
Skeptic not Atheist
Or just wait until later in the morning when there were no cameras around. This video was taken sometime between the collapse of the two towers. After that there was only two people in the building and we all know who they were.
If the camera can't see him at the bottom of the stairs, what makes you think he could see the camera at the top? Don't you think if he stopped or turned around it would have created an issue? Don't you think the best course of action was to proceed as though he was supposed to be there and just ignore the camera?
jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
No.
Why do you ask?
What time is it?
Is he a WTC7 security guy?
Shortly after Wtc1 collapsed there were still people in the upper lobby.
jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
So Chandler is wrong in stating that free fall requires all columns to be removed?
Got it!
Axxman300
Philosopher
The guy would have to have between 1,500 and 2,500 pounds of explosives and detonators. That requires one or two trips up from the garage in the freight elevator, and at least ten other guys.
Nobody is hanging out in the lobby because nobody has time.
Set the charges and get clear, because the blast will be loud...oh wait a second...
LSSBB
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jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
I refer to the line run ng vertically along which the the floors and roofline tt down towards.
Not sure what line orthogonal to that you might be referring to.
Because I like you and your compadres so much Tony.
Axxman300
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jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
Still waiting fir an example of Verinage in a steel columned building. Perhaps its done but in the vids i've seen its always concrete or brick.
jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
Indeed the contention that a period of free fall is indicative of demolition has never been more than unsupported bald assertion.
The contention always was that ALL vertical support must be removed in order for free fall and that this meant all columns needed to be exploively removed.. Debunkers pointed out that various mechanisms meant that such full removal of columns was not required. Tony agrees.
It is not necessary for all vertical support to be removed over 8 storeys in order to have the collapsing structure achieve free fall.
No, now we are told that only interior columns need be removed with explosives, and that the NW and NE corners beginning their downward movement in sync is what is indicative of interior explosive use. Little mention of free fall.
Odd though, debunkers point out that the commonly accepted scenario includes destruction of interior columns too.
How is it that destruction of only interior columns both can and cannot cause the east and west faces to fail at the same time?
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