RE: clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

[DavidJames]

True, but it would mean she had bad judgment in hiring.

That along with the 999 cuts (not to mention the pant suits) surely means death.

It's telling her opponents aren't able develop any arguments other then crap like this. Something I would expect on Facebook or comments sections of partisan blogs. That it happens here is, well, simply fascinating.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Given every kind of issue rolls off Trump like water off a duck's back, it would seen Clinton has herself a theme here.

 

[The Big Dog]

True, but it would mean she had bad judgment in hiring.

Bad judgment in hiring? That is not accurate. This junior IT guy was shepherded in by high ranking Hillary political operatives, and specifically set up in an exempt political position reporting OUTSIDE his department to another Clinton political appointment. This was not bad judgment, it was an intentionally designed to place a Hillary employee in "political" position outside the regular IT management structure. This was being done at the same time that he was setting up her cowboy server that circumented the State email system.

Now all his emails are gone, and he is pleading the fifth. And she lied that the FBI is just doing a security inquiry, which does not actually exist.

As the IT career staffer said "what a bunch a...."

 

[The Big Dog]

By the way, avid readers will no doubt have their memory tickled by the State career employee's comment "what a bunch a..."

What does that recall? Of course it recalls Hillary's outside server company's employee writing that this whole thing is really covering up some "really shaddy (sic) ****."

Curious that two emails from regular IT people dealing with Hillary's cowboy server chose such similar language to describe her scheme, isn't it?

 

[Dog Town]

By the way, avid readers will no doubt have their memory tickled by the State career employee's comment "what a bunch a..."

What does that recall? Of course it recalls Hillary's outside server company's employee writing that this whole thing is really covering up some "really shaddy (sic) ****."

Curious that two emails from regular IT people dealing with Hillary's cowboy server chose such similar language to describe her scheme, isn't it?

Yet two of the shillaries here, who "claim" to be in IT, see nothing wrong. Not surprising! The FBI is on the trail of the foundation. This should get REALLY interesting.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

By the way, avid readers will no doubt have their memory tickled by the State career employee's comment "what a bunch a..."

What does that recall? Of course it recalls Hillary's outside server company's employee writing that this whole thing is really covering up some "really shaddy (sic) ****."

Curious that two emails from regular IT people dealing with Hillary's cowboy server chose such similar language to describe her scheme, isn't it?

Of course, the "State career employee's comment "what a bunch a..."" was clearly referring to hoops they had to jump thought in the hiring process, not "Hillary's cowboy server"

And

Avid readers who pay attention to FACTS will recall there was no actual "shaddy ****"

Hillary attempted to erase the backups of the emails twice The admins of Platte River Networks, who facilitated the backups feared a coverup was happening:
Any chance you found an old email with their directive to cut the backup back in Oct-Feb,” one Platte River employee asked another, according to excerpts of the emails included in a Monday letter from Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).
“I know they had you cut it once in Oct-Nov, then again to 30day in Feb-ish.” Such a record, the employee said, would be “golden," and would clear the company of outside criticism and point back to Clinton Executive Service Corp., which “appears to be a Clinton family company,” according to the Johnson letter. “Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy ****"...​

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html
Boian said the firm had set up a 30-day retention policy for the backup server in 2013, at the request of Clinton’s representatives, meaning that any emails deleted would disappear within 30 days.
...
Boian said, however, that Platte River was asked to limit email retention to 30 days as soon as it was hired -- a directive that never changed.

So there was no "shaddy ****" .

But yeah, remarkably similar

 

[The Big Dog]

Here is some more backup on the "shaddy ****"

Despite Boian’s statement that Platte River set up a 30-day revolving retention policy for Clinton’s emails, Johnson’s letter noted that Platte River employees were directed to reduce the amount of email data being stored with each backup. Late this summer, Johnson wrote, a Platte River employee took note of this change and inquired whether the company could search its archives for an email from Clinton Executive Service Corp. directing such a reduction in October or November 2014 and then again around February, advising Platte River to save only emails sent during the most recent 30 days.

Those reductions would have occurred after the State Department requested that Clinton turn over her emails.

It is unclear why Secretary Clinton’s representatives apparently directed (Platte River) to reduce the backup time period of her emails around the same time period or in the months following the State Department’s request.

Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, in letter to Datto

It was here that a Platte River employee voiced suspicions about a cover-up and sought to protect the company. “If we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups,” the employee wrote, “and that we can go public with our statement saying we have had backups since day one, then we were told to trim to 30 days, it would make us look a WHOLE LOT better,” according to the email cited by Johnson.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html#storylink=cpy

Can a brother get a laughing dog??

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Here is some more backup on the "shaddy ****"

It is unclear why Secretary Clinton’s representatives apparently directed (Platte River) to reduce the backup time period of her emails around the same time period or in the months following the State Department’s request.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html#storylink=cpy

Can a brother get a laughing dog??

Avid readers will note that there is no evidence that "Secretary Clinton’s representatives apparently directed (Platte River) to reduce the backup time period of her emails around the same time period or in the months following the State Department’s request" is simply hearsay.

Footonote 23:https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/chairman-johnson-letter-to-datto-inc-

And his claim is "nuked from orbit" by platte river:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.htm

His letter also cited internal emails recounting requests in late 2014 and early 2015 from Clinton representatives for Platte River Networks to direct Datto to reduce the amount of her emails it was backing up. These communications led a Platte River employee to air suspicions that “this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy (sic) ****,” according to an excerpt of an email cited by Johnson.

Boian said, however, that Platte River was asked to limit email retention to 30 days as soon as it was hired -- a directive that never changed.

 

[sunmaster14]

Avid readers will note that there is no evidence that "Secretary Clinton’s representatives apparently directed (Platte River) to reduce the backup time period of her emails around the same time period or in the months following the State Department’s request" is simply hearsay.

Footonote 23:https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/chairman-johnson-letter-to-datto-inc-

And his claim is "nuked from orbit" by platte river:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.htm

His letter also cited internal emails recounting requests in late 2014 and early 2015 from Clinton representatives for Platte River Networks to direct Datto to reduce the amount of her emails it was backing up. These communications led a Platte River employee to air suspicions that “this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy (sic) ****,” according to an excerpt of an email cited by Johnson.

Boian said, however, that Platte River was asked to limit email retention to 30 days as soon as it was hired -- a directive that never changed.

You do realize that Platte River and Datto are two separate companies, right? Also, Platte River was hired in mid-2013, long after Clinton had left office. The fact that it was directed to use a 30-day retention policy (which would wipe out all of the emails that Clinton should have known were Federal Records that needed to be archived) is bad in and of itself. That Clinton representatives became worried that Datto might be backing up stuff that they had hoped Platte River was not retaining, and which led them to request Platte River to ask Datto to reduce the amount of Clinton server email it was backing up for Platte River, is indeed some "shaddy ****."

 

[Tony Stark]

Will the Hillary finally be indicted today? LOL

 

[sunmaster14]

Will the Hillary finally be indicted today? LOL

Ha ha. I saw your post pop up on the main page, and I thought "I bet that's Tony asking if Hillary has been indicted yet." And there you have it. Too bad I couldn't ever really get anybody to take the other side of that bet.

 

[The Big Dog]

You do realize that Platte River and Datto are two separate companies, right? Also, Platte River was hired in mid-2013, long after Clinton had left office. The fact that it was directed to use a 30-day retention policy (which would wipe out all of the emails that Clinton should have known were Federal Records that needed to be archived) is bad in and of itself. That Clinton representatives became worried that Datto might be backing up stuff that they had hoped Platte River was not retaining, and which led them to request Platte River to ask Datto to reduce the amount of Clinton server email it was backing up for Platte River, is indeed some "shaddy ****."

Absolutely! It appears your correspondent is in fact relying on a directive that, impossibly one would think, makes Clinton look WORSE.

Nevertheless, the fact of the matter is, of course, Boian's claim is contradicted by Platte River's own contemporaneous emails that the changes were made in 2014 and 2015. (and which of course is consistent with what Hillary's lawyer claimed when he turned over the documents and claimed the server was "empty") Printing them and deleting them from the server was of course the "shaddy ****" the Platte River guys were talking about

The 30 day rule, if it existed at all clearly related only to the Datto backups, which was Hillary and her cabal were stunned to learn actually was not followed, and which presumably allowed the FBI to get their hands open electronic copies of all the emails, including those that Hillary thought were destroyed.

Or I am certainly content to go with the TheLateElvis's theory that Hillary was a bigger scumbag than anyone imagined!

 

[The Big Dog]

Clinton Circumvents Security Systems Again

Well, we all had a good laugh regarding a Hillary fan nuking his own foot from orbit, but let us press on to uncover more of the sordid dealings of the Clinton State Department....

The latest: Clinton abandoned secure line to use home phone, new email shows

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...inton-abandoned-secure-line-to-use-home-phone

But the episode is likely to cause concern among critics of Clinton, who have previously accused her of resorting to unsecure forms of communication out of convenience, potentially jeopardizing sensitive information. Another email of Clinton’s, released in January, appeared to show her telling a top aide to remove identifying details and send a sensitive document through a “nonsecure” channel instead of via "secure fax."

“This drip, drip of new Clinton emails show Hillary Clinton could not care less about the security of her communications,” said Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, in a statement releasing Thursday’s email. “How many other smoking gun emails are Hillary Clinton and her co-conspirators in the Obama administration hiding from the American people?”

How many indeed....

 

[TheL8Elvis]

You do realize that Platte River and Datto are two separate companies, right?

Yes, what in my post prompts you to ask ?

Also, Platte River was hired in mid-2013, long after Clinton had left office. The fact that it was directed to use a 30-day retention policy (which would wipe out all of the emails that Clinton should have known were Federal Records that needed to be archived) is bad in and of itself.

She was no longer a federal employee. Her retention policy could be whatever she wanted.

That Clinton representatives became worried that Datto might be backing up stuff that they had hoped Platte River was not retaining, and which led them to request Platte River to ask Datto to reduce the amount of Clinton server email it was backing up for Platte River, is indeed some "shaddy ****."

Both you and 16.5 ignore that the evidence of that actually happening is hearsay, and that platte river claimed that was already the retention policy. That being the case, why should I believe "Clinton representatives" didn't already know that.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Absolutely! It appears your correspondent is in fact relying on a directive that, impossibly one would think, makes Clinton look WORSE.

Absolutely Not ! It doesn't make her look worse at all .

Nevertheless, the fact of the matter is, of course, Boian's claim is contradicted by Platte River's own contemporaneous emails that the changes were made in 2014 and 2015. (and which of course is consistent with what Hillary's lawyer claimed when he turned over the documents and claimed the server was "empty") Printing them and deleting them from the server was of course the "shaddy ****" the Platte River guys were talking about

His claim isn't contradicted .. "PRN employee believes CESC direction to reduce the length of time backups were kept "was all phone comm")"

IOW, there is no evidence this happened, and the PRN employee didn't even talk to CESC !

The actual evidence we have is
Boian said, however, that Platte River was asked to limit email retention to 30 days as soon as it was hired -- a directive that never changed

The 30 day rule, if it existed at all clearly related only to the Datto backups, which was Hillary and her cabal were stunned to learn actually was not followed, and which presumably allowed the FBI to get their hands open electronic copies of all the emails, including those that Hillary thought were destroyed.

Or I am certainly content to go with the TheLateElvis's theory that Hillary was a bigger scumbag than anyone imagined!

I'm glad to see you ignored the facts I posted for your own invented set of "facts".

 

[The Big Dog]

Both you and 16.5 ignore that the evidence of that actually happening is hearsay, and that platte river claimed that was already the retention policy. That being the case, why should I believe "Clinton representatives" didn't already know that.

Yes, yes, we all see the irony of complaining about hearsay (which in this case is admissible evidence) while relying on inadmissible hearsay.

The hilarious point that our correspondent is missing is that fact had they installed the 30 day rule on Hillary's emails in 2013, as appears to be claimed, Hillary would not have had any emails left to turn over in the late fall of 2014. This is so obvious, and so hilarious the mind boggles.

As for the claim that because Hillary was a "former employee" she could do anything she wanted with the governmental records, I have one question:

Do we still do the Stundies? Because that right there is hilarious.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Well, we all had a good laugh regarding a Hillary fan nuking his own foot from orbit, but let us press on to uncover more of the sordid dealings of the Clinton State Department....

The latest: Clinton abandoned secure line to use home phone, new email shows

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...inton-abandoned-secure-line-to-use-home-phone

How many indeed....

Of course, 16.5 forgot to mention that there is no evidence anything "secure" was discussed - or that they had a discussion at all.

OMG the national security implications

“I just spoke to ops and called you reg line — we have to wait until we see each other b/c [the] technology is not working,” Mills said in another email sent at almost exactly the same time.
“Pls try again,” responded Clinton, a few moments later.

It’s unclear whether the two did connect or if they moderated any discussion they may have had to avoid sensitive topics while on an unsecure landline.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Yes, yes, we all see the irony of complaining about hearsay (which in this case is admissible evidence) while relying on inadmissible hearsay.

What are you going on about ? Which "case" is this admissible evidence in ? BENGHAZZI !!! ?

The hilarious point that our correspondent is missing is that fact had they installed the 30 day rule on Hillary's emails in 2013, as appears to be claimed, Hillary would not have had any emails left to turn over in the late fall of 2014. This is so obvious, and so hilarious the mind boggles.

No, what's actually hilarious is your ignorance of IT.

30 day rule refers to retention of deleted emails. Since she didn't delete her work emails, they would still be there.

Why I need to repeatedly keep explaining basic technology concepts to you ...

As for the claim that because Hillary was a "former employee" she could do anything she wanted with the governmental records, I have one question:

Do we still do the Stundies? Because that right there is hilarious.

If that's what you think i wrote, you go right ahead.

 

[The Big Dog]

No, what's actually hilarious is your ignorance of IT.

30 day rule refers to retention of deleted emails. Since she didn't delete her work emails, they would still be there.

Why I need to repeatedly keep explaining basic technology concepts to you ...

HEE Hee! the King of cherry picking gets hoisted again.

let me make this simple

2013 Clinton goes to Platte River who arranges back up with datto.
Mid 2014 State Department begins asking for documents
Mid 2014 Clinton arranges that all emails be sent to her lawyers
October or November 2014 Clinton instructs Platte River to cut data storage of all emails
February 2015, Clinton advises Platte River to save only emails sent during the most recent 30 days. datto ordered to do likewise
By Mid-2015 All old emails from state department days "deleted"
August 2015 Clinton's lawyer advises that Hillary's cowboy server is blank “The information had been migrated over to a different server for purposes of transition,” Wells told The Washington Post. “To my knowledge, the data on the old server is not available now on any servers or devices in Platte River Networks’ control.”
September 2015: Lo and behold, the old emails from the blank server that were deleted from Platte River are in fact sitting in cloud storage at Datto!
September 2015 to present: Hillary and the Shillaries soil themselves!

Fantastic!


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html#storylink=cpy

 

[DavidJames]

30 day rule refers to retention of deleted emails. Since she didn't delete her work emails, they would still be there.

Oh yeah, I forgot no nothings blathering on about areas which they have no clue and, shockingly, getting it wrong in ways to support their view. Architects for the truth anyone?