First, I made it clear that the state of is real has blood on its hands. I should also for the sake of honesty say that if I had a choice between immigrating to Israel or ANY Muslim nation I,and I believe most first world westerners, would choose Israel.
That Israel ranks reasonably well amongst the world's crappy nations is hardly an accolade, and I know westerners who definitely prefer Malaysia.
Second I pointed out that where the anti semitism comes in is in the simple fact that most people, institutions, political persons etc that protest against Israel ignore other similar situations almost completely.
Apart from that being rubbish (since the Boers have gone democratic there's only one European colonial effort still under way and the Boers came in for a great deal of stick before that) it would not be anti-semitism anyway. Anti-semitism is antipathy to Jews as a race. Criticising Israel before going through every other reprehensible regime in the world is special pleading of the grossest sort.
pointed out that in south america there is a still ongoing, sometimes genocidal, move to take land from Mayans who have lived there for thousands of years. Western governments have supported this in various ways. No one complains, its rarely in the papers, councils etc in the UK don't fly flags in solidarity for the suffering of those, just as innocent folk, who have seen their folk killed in numbers that dwarf the actions of isreal.
Councils and indivuals do precisely that : you'll have heard of them as "lefties". Protest against dams and logging and the murderous thugs behind them are there to see. They don't get as much publicity as criticism of Israel, of course. That always merits mention because it might be concealing open anti-semitism, if nothing else. In fact, usually nothing else.
Lastly, modern Israelis had nothing to do with the formation of Israel.
Why then do they lie so consistently about it? That lying is
their sin, not somebody else's. You cannot deny agency to modern Israelis, and a majority of modern Israelis look to Netenyahu to lead them. This is not a righteous people.
Modern Israelis are victims of their forebears who moved there and built the environment that has shaped, or rather twisted, them into the casually brutal racists so many of them are. This is one of the great evils of Zionism.
It took place before they were born. To ask them to leave in 2016 is plain silly, that's like saying all westerners should leave Australia and return it to the original inhabitants. After all their descent pinched that land. And you can go further back, Muslims took Palestine after yarmuk in the 8th century from the eastern roman empire. So doesn't that mean Muslims pinched it from someone else, it does not end there, what about the Canaanite peoples, what about the folk before them. Who decides the cut of point for the return of land- you. Or me?
Comparing a colonial venture which was launched 120 years ago,
in modern times, with events in very different eras is facile. People who drove Palestinians from their homes in 1948 are alive today, proud of it when they're not denying it, and held to be heroes of the Nation by their peers and later generations. The Zionist project may be a failure but the country they did create, Israel, is exactly what they intended it to be and that was (and is) an ugly thing.
Of course Israel should not have been created, but it ha s been. That is reality, they have nuclear bombs, that's reality. They are going to do what ever they like and get away with it, that's reality.
I'm still going to tell the true story of Zionism to counter the lies so constantly repeated and the reluctance of most people to look. Reality will continue to change, and I'm pretty sure it will see many Israelis choosing to leave rather than to live with that dark force which is growing in the settlements, and at the very centre of power. Many modern Israelis would balk at the requirement that women sit at the back of the bus outside the eyeline of godly Jewish men : would you write off that possibility? Modesty police on the streets? It's already a reality in some parts.
Israel is going to turn on itself due to its own contradictions and the lies it's founded on. What happens after that is anybody's guess, but the problem of who's a proper Jew is likely to feature, and that sort of thing can get nasty.
As for doing whatever they want to, they
want to be shot of all the Palestinians they failed to get rid of in th
e beginning and they can't do it. There is no credible route from here to there. All that's in prospect is the now, forever, with increasing amounts of G-d. The Race identified with the Nation, the Nation identified with an Ideology, the Ideology identified with a Party - all it lacks is the Leader, which Netenyahu is too worthless a squit to qualify for. Sharon managed it. One wonders who'll be next.
And we should criticise them for it. But if someone or some group does so and almost totally,consistently over and over ignores other near identical situations sadly taking place in the world that's anti semitism.
See above. Take account of the fact that criticism of Israel provokes a vastly louder response, usually hailed by "Many people use criticism of Israel to conceal anti-semitism", than criticism of Central American loggers, who don't have a lobby. You may be getting an exaggerated impression of how much critism of Israel there is, and missing a lot of the other stuff.
