US Republicans seek clemency for serial child abuser

Some more quotes.
Tom DeLay said:
[Hastert] has never disappointed me in any way. He is a man of strong faith that guides him. He is a man of great integrity… We all have our flaws, but Dennis Hastert has very few. He is a good man that loves the Lord. He gets his integrity and values from Him. He doesn’t deserve what he is going thorough. I ask that you consider the man that is before you and give him leniency where you can.
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DeLay remember said that states should ignore the US Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage.

John Doolittle said:
During my interactions with Denny Hastert I found him to be a man of integrity and widely respected by all members of the House… In all my interactions with him, Denny Hastert was humble and treated people fairly and with respect. He was a graduate of Wheaton College and reflected the Christian values of that institution in all my observations. I always admired him for his down-to-earth manner and style of leadership. I always believed him to be a man of high moral character and one in whom I had a high level of trust…
Given the conviction, which has occurred I would hope that the many good things that he did and the strong character traits that he repeatedly exhibited over a long period of years and his faithful service to the people of Illinois both as a state representative and as a United States Representative might be taken into account as you decide what sentence to impose.
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Doolittle opposed a prohibition on job discrimination based on sexual orientation and wanted to ban SSM.

Porter Goss said:
Perhaps, the Speakers greatest gift to the House was trust… I know many viewed him as “Mr. Main Street, America” — a rock solid guy with center of the country values… Sadly, without his good influence today’s House of Representatives appears diminished.
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Perhaps Goss's stint as CIA director should be re-evaluated in light of his awful character judgement. Also his seeming lack of understanding of the proper use of the apostrophe.

David Dreier said:
Dennis Hastert is one of the most dedicated and hard working [sic]public servants I’ve known…
While Denny always worked hard, he has had serious health problems with which you are certainly familiar… Dennis Hastert is my friend and he has done many great things for countless individuals and our nation.
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Dreier, a Republican who opposed SSM, LGBT rights, same-sex adoptions and also voted against the Matthew Shepard Act, which extended hate crime protections to gays.
He was outed as gay in 2005.
 
Jean Hastert's letter
I write in support of my husband, Dennis Hastert.

Denny and I have been married for almost 43 years. I have known him almost my entire adult life and I have never known a more honorable and devoted man.

He has spent his life in the service of others. He has always been selfless with his time and talents and has been incredibly devoted to the success of others. If one of his students or wrestlers ever needed anything of him, he would be there for them, and he was never happier than when he could watch someone he helped succeed. I really think that is how he viewed his own success-through the success of those he helped achieve their success. That was the way he was as a teacher with his students. That was the way he was as a wrestling and football coach with his teams. And that was the way he was with his colleagues in Springfield and Washington.

I also believe that, given the time and if his health improves, he will continue to help others and find ways to give back to his communities. It is what he has always done and it is what he loves. Even up to last summer, he was busy working, helping teach college courses at local schools, or volunteering his time to one cause or another.

Denny's selflessness has not been without cost, however. Because he spent so much of his career away from home helping others, we always looked forward to his retirement so that we could spend more time together. Now, with his failing health, I worry about how much time we will ever get together. I am particularly worried that if he is taken from his home and the care he needs, his health will continue to deteriorate. This has taken a terrible toll on our family. Please consider us when determining an appropriate sentence. Thank you.
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This is Hastert
Between 1996 and 2002 his sexual activities were video taped by two Govt agencies , a foregn network and a criminal network operating out of Chicago and representing joint NATO , CIA and Gladio operations .
He was involved in illegal fund raising activities in Illinois , laundering foreign source cash funds -- some involving drugs money .
The Chicago FBI field evidence collected literally tons of evidence relating to bribery , extortions , fraud , money laundering , embezzlement , sexual crimes against minors , participation in foreign operated drug activities .
Washington FBI office has evidence since 1997 of his espionage involvement and foreign based bribery .
There is a mountain of hard evidence against slime ball on illegal sexual activity outside the US . This includes , Vietnam , Thailand , Turkey and Morocco .
It goes on and on .
If you like , the real story is all this extra material which has never hit court and the reasons for that .
The story is remarkable and was set in motion by the actions taken by Clinton for him to be in a position to blackmail anybody and everybody , should impeachment proceedings against him move to a serious level .
The reporting of this monumental piece of work lies at the feet of Sibel Edmonds and possibly represents the most courageous and astonishing investigative work ever .
The ramifications touch on paedophile organisation on an international and inter governmental basis with Hastert a huge fly in a web centre .
As you all should know , Sibel runs the Boiling Frogs Post and her investigations over many years are readily available and now consolidated into one body of work .
Hastert is a despicable piece of trash and there is no punishment which fits his multitude of crimes . Tragically , the consequences of this case stretch across the globe and this part protects him -- full revelations cannot even be contemplated and they cover both sides , the legal system and judiciary .
So Jean's letter is sick making .
 
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catsmate said:
Sexual abuse of children is a serious matter, please keep your gibbering nonsense away from it.
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You do consistently write splendid nonsense .
In fact , have you even replied to the correct Post ?
The only person talking about sexual abuse and it not being a serious matter is you
.My Post concentrated on that very matter .And if you bothered to read the definitive reporting you would know that such international implications are primary .
In my post , terms like , sexual abuse outside of the US .And , pedophile organisations on an inter governmental basis are clues .
Why do you repeatedly miss the obvious ?
 
To me those letters all read like the prequel to a "but" e.g. "but we now know that was deception and a veneer over his hideous crimes against children"
 
LTC8K6 said:
Interesting take on this prosecution. I had assumed that the prosecution was for the molestation, had no idea it was essentially unrelated.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/04/the_troubling_prosecution_of_dennis_hastert.html

The Troubling Prosecution of Dennis Hastert
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Indeed. Afaik he was neither charged with nor pleaded guilty to any "sexual offenses" or anything similar which makes me wonder on what basis the judge could order him to undergo "sexual offender treatment" or pay to a "fund for victims".

If anything i find the fact that lying to criminal investigators to cover ones own ass is illegal to be highly unreasonable considering that people often deny or lie about stuff even when it's completely deleterious. Then again if i understand it correctly it's one of many offenses that federal prosecutors use to coerce people into pleading guilty to a lesser crime rather than face prosecution for more serious offenses.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Interesting take on this prosecution. I had assumed that the prosecution was for the molestation, had no idea it was essentially unrelated.
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So you missed the third sentence of my OP?
Unfortunately he cannot be prosecuted for that abuse due to the length of time that has passed, somewhat ironic given his past support for life sentences for repeat child abusers. He was convicted for matters relating to an attempt to pay-off one of his accusers and lying to a Federal investigation. At the time Hastert accused the person whom he was paying off of making false allegations of sexual abuse.
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Arcade22 said:
Indeed. Afaik he was neither charged with nor pleaded guilty to any "sexual offenses" or anything similar
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Something I mentioned. The statute of limitations prevents such charges being brought.
Arcade22 said:
which makes me wonder on what basis the judge could order him to undergo "sexual offender treatment" or pay to a "fund for victims".
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Hastert admitted abusing four boys. It's in the court records, most of the articles on the matter and in the judge's summing up.
The real question (well one of them) is who else did he molest?

Arcade22 said:
If anything i find the fact that lying to criminal investigators to cover ones own ass is illegal to be highly unreasonable considering that people often deny or lie about stuff even when it's completely deleterious.
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:rolleyes:

Arcade22 said:
Then again if i understand it correctly it's one of many offenses that federal prosecutors use to coerce people into pleading guilty to a lesser crime rather than face prosecution for more serious offenses.
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Sigh. Are you seriously suggesting Hastert was "coerced" into pleading guilty to the charge relating to the attempted pay-off?
 
Wouldn't it be great if in sentencing, the judge not only throws the book at Hastert, but also ordered jail time for the creeps that have tried to defend his behavior.

"Dennis is a good man."
"NO, he's not. And that you think so shows that you are also a danger to society."
 
catsmate said:
Hastert admitted abusing four boys. It's in the court records, most of the articles on the matter and in the judge's summing up.
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Which should be completely irrelevant as his sentence should be based upon the specific offenses he was convicted of. Unless having to go through "sexual offender treatment" is a proscribed sanction for those offenses it shouldn't be an alternative.

Sigh. Are you seriously suggesting Hastert was "coerced" into pleading guilty to the charge relating to the attempted pay-off?
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I'm uncertain how else you could construct giving someone a choice between either confessing to a crime and receiving a lesser sentence or maintaining innocence and the very real risk of receiving a far more severe sentence.

It's honestly comparable to giving people the choice between being subject to tortured indefinitely (until they confess) or admit to criminal allegations. In fact it's perfectly legal for people to be subject to pretrial detention in the US for extended periods of time by postponing the trail, for the sole reason of getting a guilty plea.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Maybe they don't want their sins revealed somehow when Hastert goes in the slammer.
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That I can easily believe - but I must admit to prejudice: I do not know how I could loathe them anymore, and I find it not possible to disbelieve any abomination claimed of them.
 
fuelair said:
If that kind of thing is acceptable to that in-group I can but wish there was a hell for them to spend eternity in!!!!!
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Which brings up a minor point, if all these ******** think he and they are good Christians, do they not catch they will be in hell according to the bible or are they really closet atheists.
 
fuelair said:
Which brings up a minor point, if all these ******** think he and they are good Christians, do they not catch they will be in hell according to the bible or are they really closet atheists.
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:confused: What do you mean?
 
catsmate said:
There are. Hastert's wife and Republican politician Doris Karpiel (Illinois state, retired) wrote to the court seeking clemency. She wrote:



No, most of the letters were from men. Approximately one-third were withdrawn when the sentencing judge said they'd be part of the public record.


It happens.

ETA. Four other women wrote in support of Hastert.
The text of the forty one letters of support can be found here. 14MB PDF
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Wow, that was a slog through excuse land!!!!!! I feel mud (well, similar) dripping off my eyes from that crapfest!!!!!
 
AdamSK said:
:confused: What do you mean?
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If they support what the bad guy did then they are sinners. If they try to get him not punished they are sinners, If they are claiming what he did was ok, they are sinners. If they are sinners they go to hell, thus they either are happy to go to hell for him OR they really do not believe what they say and are then functional atheists so have no reason to be worried about a hell trip...........
 
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