US Republicans seek clemency for serial child abuser

fuelair said:
If they support what the bad guy did then they are sinners. If they try to get him not punished they are sinners, If they are claiming what he did was ok, they are sinners. If they are sinners they go to hell, thus they either are happy to go to hell for him OR they really do not believe what they say and are then functional atheists so have no reason to be worried about a hell trip...........
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Sinners don't go to Hell if they bleeve on Jesus...
That's all it takes
 
It would appear that Mr. DeLay is not a student of scripture:

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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catsmate said:
Dennis Hastert, former Republican congressman, speaker of the House of Representatives and sexual abuser of multiple boys, has been sentenced to 15 months in prison, followed by supervised release and mandated sex offender treatment program.

Hastert (74) has admitted, publicly for the first time, he sexually molested male athletes (aged 14 to 17) when coaching a wrestling team at Illinois' Yorkville High School in the 1970s.
Unfortunately he cannot be prosecuted for that abuse due to the length of time that has passed, somewhat ironic given his past support for life sentences for repeat child abusers. He was convicted for matters relating to an attempt to pay-off one of his accusers and lying to a Federal investigation. At the time Hastert accused the person whom he was paying off of making false allegations of sexual abuse.
The sentencing hearing had numerous letters submitted by other politicians including John Doolittle (Republican), David Dreier (Republican), Thomas Ewing (Republican), Porter Goss (Republican), Tyrone Fahner (Republican) and Doris Karpiel (Republican). Possibly the most nauseating was the contribution by Tom DeLay (Republican) who said of Hastert:

DeLay did not say whether the boys molested by Hastert "deserved" what they went through.
Doolittle, Dreier, Goss and Thomas are law-and-order Republicans. And gross hypocrites.

NY Times.
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That is why I don't support statutes of limitations except for the most minor of crimes.
 
luchog said:
Why do you assume it's only men that react that way. I can't begin to count the number of women I've heard excuse and deny similar acts by well-known religious figures.

It's a religious thing, not a male/female thing. If someone is believed to be a sufficiently "godly" and important person, then any sin they commit and any lives they ruin are either dismissed as "lies of the enemy to discredit him/her"; or if it is sufficiently proven or admitted, then it's "a tragic mistake, that we should forgive and move past". I used to hear this kind of crap in church all the time, and it was just as loud and strident from the women as it was from the men. But it's mostly men who are the public figures, so it'll be mostly men that people from outside the community hear it from.

Unless it happens to their own children, of course.
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Then the Penn State thing proves football really is a religion.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
is that a guy thing?
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No it is not. I have heard similar excuses from women about other and similar crime back in my dump of a city. It is a he-is-somebody-I-know thing for some people.

In my case I told an aquaintance to go to hell when something similar hapenned. "You were a responsible adult so go to hell" paraphrasing politely.

Some people expect "friend" to accept anything and even crime as "friend". I don't.
 
Bump.

Serial sexual abuser of young boys and former Republican congressman Dennis Hastert is fighting to keep his teacher's pension. Stating that he'd never been convicted of sexual abuse (technically true, he admitted the sexual abuse during his trial on fraud charges related to his attempts to buy off his victims) Hastert is attempting to regain the US$17,000pa pension that the Teachers' Retirement System has cancelled. He also doesn't want to repay the US$222,000 in pension payments prior to his conviction.

Classy. :rolleyes:

AP.
 
Trebuchet said:
How much is Congressional pension, I wonder?
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In Hastert's case ~ US$73,000 as he'd been in the HoR for 21 years. He keeps that and his state pension of ~US$28,000.
No member of the US Congress has ever lost their pension due to misconduct or illegality.
 
luchog said:
It's a religious thing, not a male/female thing.
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No. It's an authority thing. Look at the whole Jimmy Savile BBC child abuse scandal: it's got all the same dynamics. Or Jerry Sandusky. Or Filthy Filner (my god, have you ever seen a man that looks more like a sexual predator?). Religious institutions are not in any way unique in this regard.
 
Ziggurat said:
No. It's an authority thing. Look at the whole Jimmy Savile BBC child abuse scandal: it's got all the same dynamics. Or Jerry Sandusky. Or Filthy Filner (my god, have you ever seen a man that looks more like a sexual predator?). Religious institutions are not in any way unique in this regard.
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Also the UK football coaching scandal.
 
Ziggurat said:
Was the scandal that they were teaching children football? :p
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In the 80s? In the UK? If anyone was teaching anyone football it got beaten out of them fairly quick. In the UK they taught passion, commitment, kicking people and running up and down.

Teaching football was for those fancy-dans over in Europe, the Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Italians. Folk like that.
 
3point14 said:
In the 80s? In the UK? If anyone was teaching anyone football it got beaten out of them fairly quick. In the UK they taught passion, commitment, kicking people and running up and down.

Teaching football was for those fancy-dans over in Europe, the Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Italians. Folk like that.
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So in the UK they didn't teach faking injuries? How would you even play the game without that? :confused:
 
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