RE: clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

[sunmaster14]

Or ... fewer than 50

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this article incorrectly said that Clinton used two different email addresses, sometimes interchangeably, as secretary of state. She used only hdr22@clintonemail.com as secretary of state. Also, an earlier version of this article reported that 147 FBI agents had been detailed to the investigation, according to a lawmaker briefed by FBI Director James B. Comey. Two U.S. law enforcement officials have since told The Washington Post that figure is too high. The FBI will not provide an exact figure, but the officials say the number of FBI personnel involved is fewer than 50.

As work gets completed, maybe they don't need as many investigators and the number is reduced. The 150 figure was reported a long time ago as well.

 

[Tero]

The FOIA suits, directed against the State Department, are largely separate from the ongoing FBI investigation into the presence of classified information on Clinton's email server. Clinton's aides are expected to be interviewed in that probe in the coming weeks, with an interview of the former secretary of state and current presidential candidate likely sometime thereafter.

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Cool. Will there be time for her to try out the orange coverall for community service, 30 days trash collecting along the interstate, before November? They can postpone the service to most of December, I'm sure.

 

[The Big Dog]

As work gets completed, maybe they don't need as many investigators and the number is reduced. The 150 figure was reported a long time ago as well.

Can you imagine someone taking solace in the claim that fewer than 50 FBI agents are investigating one's dear leader?

Hell I'd plotz if I heard ONE FBI agent was sniffing around!

 

[TheL8Elvis]

As work gets completed, maybe they don't need as many investigators and the number is reduced. The 150 figure was reported a long time ago as well.

Or, more simply, it was wrong then, too.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Can you imagine someone taking solace in the claim that fewer than 50 FBI agents are investigating one's dear leader?

Hell I'd plotz if I heard ONE FBI agent was sniffing around!

Taking solace ? No, just correcting the continual misinformation campaign.

 

[Mike!]

Or, more simply, it was wrong then, too.

Or maybe the unnamed "officials" recently quoted are wrong, or are providing misinformation themselves. Who's to say where the ever changing line of "truth" falls at this moment?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

And I stand by that statement.

Of course you do. Anything rather than admit you are wrong and are simply pulling so-called "facts" out of your ass.

First of all, the security clearances were likely not granted in time.

So, you don't know. And I provided clear evidence that kendalls TS/SCI clearance was granted well prior.

Second, they were for the narrow purpose of helping Hillary to prepare for her Benghazi testimony. That does not give them authority to see any and all classified information.

That's not how clearances work.

Third, David Kendall does not even claim that the information was secured properly at the time his law firm (not just he) received it. He makes a big, big deal about the "fact" that none of the information was classified at the time his law firm received it, even though we know that's a lie. No doubt he does that because he knows that, at the time the emails were provided to his law firm, many people received it without proper authorization.

Actually, he claims state dept guidelines were followed.

I'll note further that Kendall's earlier clearance is from the Department of Justice and clearly was narrowed in scope and for a specific purpose (other than examining Hillary's emails created while she was in the State Department). I doubt that made him an authorized recipient of classified information from the State Department.

You are repeating yourself, and you are still wrong.

Finally, there's no way that a bigwig like David Kendall will waste his time looking through Hillary's emails. NFW. He's going to have lower level people do it. The guy has been a partner for 35 years and is 72 years old. And in case you need reminding, Hillary did claim that her emails were examined individually. I have no doubt that the ones she provided to the State Department (over 30,000) were vetted very carefully. The ones she tossed might have only been run through a very loose keyword search filter.

Go ahead and provide evidence better than "NFW"

 

[The Big Dog]

And I stand by that statement. First of all, the security clearances were likely not granted in time. Second, they were for the narrow purpose of helping Hillary to prepare for her Benghazi testimony. That does not give them authority to see any and all classified information. Third, David Kendall does not even claim that the information was secured properly at the time his law firm (not just he) received it. He makes a big, big deal about the "fact" that none of the information was classified at the time his law firm received it, even though we know that's a lie. No doubt he does that because he knows that, at the time the emails were provided to his law firm, many people received it without proper authorization.

I'll note further that Kendall's earlier clearance is from the Department of Justice and clearly was narrowed in scope and for a specific purpose (other than examining Hillary's emails created while she was in the State Department). I doubt that made him an authorized recipient of classified information from the State Department.

Finally, there's no way that a bigwig like David Kendall will waste his time looking through Hillary's emails. NFW. He's going to have lower level people do it. The guy has been a partner for 35 years and is 72 years old. And in case you need reminding, Hillary did claim that her emails were examined individually. I have no doubt that the ones she provided to the State Department (over 30,000) were vetted very carefully. The ones she tossed might have only been run through a very loose keyword search filter.

Keyword filter?

"Clinton Family Foundation" DELETE
"EXXON" DELETE
"Whitewater" DELETE
"Goldman Sachs" DELETE DELETE DELETE!

 

[sunmaster14]

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That's not how clearances work.

Yes it is. After all, Petraeus' mistress had a top secret clearance, but she was still not authorized to have access to the information in his diary.

Actually, he claims state dept guidelines were followed.

Only after the "retroactive" classifications were made in 2015. Of course, we know that retroactive classification is a red herring (i.e. lie). The information was always classified, regardless of whether or not it was marked as such, or whether or not Kendall knew it. Hillary Clinton should have known, at least about some of the emails, which by credible reports, would jump out at any competent high level government employee as extremely sensitive information.

You are repeating yourself, and you are still wrong.

And you are not providing a rebuttal, other than to roll your eyes.

Go ahead and provide evidence better than "NFW"

Why? Do you really think there's a snowball's chance in hell that David Kendall went through more than 30,000 Hillary emails in 34 days (maximum), by himself?

 

[sunmaster14]

Keyword filter?

"Clinton Family Foundation" DELETE
"EXXON" DELETE
"Whitewater" DELETE
"Goldman Sachs" DELETE DELETE DELETE!

Well, that stuff is all clearly personal. After all, corruption is not part of her official duties. Right?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

On to the next part...

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As for compromising our national security, it is a certainty that it happened. The reason is that the government has to operate under the assumption that her server was compromised until proven otherwise (which is probably impossible to do). Therefore, a lot of costly stuff has to be done to mitigate any potential damage. That costly stuff is damage all by itself.

Can you show me where the operational procedures exist for your hilited claim ?

Because I think you just made it up.

Also, I'd love to see your list of actions and associated costs that the "government" had to take to mitigate potential damage.

Especially, considering those emails originated from state.gov account, and we already know that state.gov email was compromised multiple times.

What additional steps do you think were taken 4-8 years later that saved our national security ?

 

[sunmaster14]

On to the next part...



Can you show me where the operational procedures exist for your hilited claim ?

Because I think you just made it up.

Also, I'd love to see your list of actions and associated costs that the "government" had to take to mitigate potential damage.

Especially, considering those emails originated from state.gov account, and we already know that state.gov email was compromised multiple times.

What additional steps do you think were taken 4-8 years later that saved our national security ?

Actually, I'm not at liberty to say, as I learned about this stuff when I had my top secret security clearance.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Read the whole article.

The article, even the quotes don't say what he seems to think they say.

determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop

Some people have consumed a toxic amount of the koolaid. Beliefs trump the facts.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Yes it is. After all, Petraeus' mistress had a top secret clearance, but she was still not authorized to have access to the information in his diary.

Speaking of red herrings, you keep bringing up Paula Broadwell as if she's relevant.
We've already been down the road of the difference between Patreaus and Clinton.

These are not analogous situations, and that your trying to conflate her possession of TS information with kendalls is completely laughable.

Only after the "retroactive" classifications were made in 2015. Of course, we know that retroactive classification is a red herring (i.e. lie). The information was always classified, regardless of whether or not it was marked as such, or whether or not Kendall knew it. Hillary Clinton should have known, at least about some of the emails, which by credible reports, would jump out at any competent high level government employee as extremely sensitive information.

And your point is what exactly ? That context and intent are irrelevant, and that everyone who ever touched the USB drive should immediately have known that there were TS emails, even though the classyfing agancy couldn't even make up it's mind about the classification status and ended up declaring something they claimed was TS actually wasn't ... therefor what exactly ?

And you are not providing a rebuttal, other than to roll your eyes.

Wrong.

Why? Do you really think there's a snowball's chance in hell that David Kendall went through more than 30,000 Hillary emails in 34 days (maximum), by himself?

Why, because you made a claim, and the only evidence you provided is disbelief. That's not a compelling argument.

If you have actual evidence people without clearances reviewed the email, provide it. Otherwise, meh ... your posts are just so much noise.

 

[The Big Dog]

Some people have consumed a toxic amount of the koolaid. Beliefs trump the facts.

Every molecule in the irony meter just stopping instantaneously and exploded at the speed of light.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Actually, I'm not at liberty to say, as I learned about this stuff when I had my top secret security clearance.

Yeah, I actually have an inactive DOJ TS/SCI and work in IT security ... you ?

 

[Newtons Bit]

Only after the "retroactive" classifications were made in 2015. Of course, we know that retroactive classification is a red herring (i.e. lie). The information was always classified, regardless of whether or not it was marked as such, or whether or not Kendall knew it. Hillary Clinton should have known, at least about some of the emails, which by credible reports, would jump out at any competent high level government employee as extremely sensitive information.

Yup. By Executive Order, the President has deemed all private/confidential information from foreign governments to be classified. If an email starts with "The foreign secretary told me X in a private meeting" then the information in that email is probably classified.

 

[sunmaster14]

Yeah, I actually have an inactive DOJ TS/SCI and work in IT security ... you ?

I've worked as a researcher at a nuclear weapons lab and as a cryptanalyst at the NSA. But none of that matters, since I'm only appealing to logic.

 

[Newtons Bit]

I've worked as a researcher at a nuclear weapons lab and as a cryptanalyst at the NSA. But none of that matters, since I'm only appealing to logic.

LANL? SNL?

 

[sunmaster14]

LANL? SNL?

LLNL. L-division. It was a loooong time ago though.