Merged American 77 - The Final Word

Crazy Chainsaw said:
You should have seen the forum go wild when Lytle said, no planers are no brainers, in a thread about Judy woods and the cartoon cut outs, the whole forum was laughing over that one.
I was actually worried about Beechnut, thought he might hurt himself laughing.
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Oh shoot I never saw that one!

Link?

I think one needed to follow CIT's nonsense no further than when Aldo dismissed a SoC witness because her name "....sounds Jewish. Possibly Mossad?"

This was the extent of their paranoia.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Oh shoot I never saw that one!

Link?

I think one needed to follow CIT's nonsense no further than when Aldo dismissed a SoC witness because her name "....sounds Jewish. Possibly Mossad?"

This was the extent of their paranoia.
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The search function will not work on my tablet, if it would I could find it for you.
 
DGM said:
I think we need to start a nostalgia thread.

The works of the likes of Ace Baker and Tracy Blevens (and a host of others) should not be lost to obscurity. :D
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Ace was another that was before my time. I just remember him on Hardfire with video expert Steve...somebody. Wish I could remember his name to give him credit. He really ripped apart everything Ace tried to say.

And then when he "killed" himself on Fetzer's radio show! That was amazing viewing!

Was Ace the pioneer of No-Planes at the WTCs?
 
DGM said:
For true nostalgia crazy,

http://www.internationalskeptics.co...?f=64&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=replycount

Check out the early works.
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Wonderful stuff!

I tried to get through Realstice but I might have made it 10, 15 pages in and couldn't take it any longer. I dont even want to guess how many pages it went on for!

The AA 77 FDR thread I read the whole thing. And anything else CIT/PF911T related that I could find. Rob and the treehouse gang were by far the most entertaining. ....speaking as an outsider not having to deal with their craziness.

I asked this before....do you think Craig and Aldo really believed what they were selling or was it just for the fame/money?
 
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cantonear1968 said:
I asked this before....do you think Craig and Aldo really believed what they were selling or was it just for the fame/money?
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I seriously doubt they actually made any money. I think it was a "rock star" sort of thing. They saw it as fame and were blinded into believing their own lies.

I haven't seen anything from either in years. I guess they likely moved on.

Although I'm not proud of it, I might have been a direct reason why this thread ended up here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84473

We met on the long gone Screw Loose Change forum and I suggested he bring his argument here. Sorry folks, I was new at the time. :o
 
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DGM said:
I seriously doubt they actually made any money. I think it was a "rock star" sort of thing. They saw it as fame and were blinded into believing their own lies.
I haven't seen anything from either in years. I guess they likely moved on.

Although I'm not proud of it, I might have been a direct reason why this thread ended up here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84473

We met on the long gone Screw Loose Change forum and I suggested he bring his argument here. Sorry folks, I was new at the time. :o
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This is how I read it also. At least for their own work. I got the feeling they absolutely believed their witnesses saw a NoC approach. Which may be no more than these witnesses believing it themselves. It was 5 years after the event.

It was their examination of SoC witnesses that you could see they were doing whatever possible to discredit them. The same scrutiny did not apply to NoC witnesses.....even if they weren't really NoC witnesses!
 
If radar tracking, plane wreckage, hundreds of witnesses, and passenger DNA doesn't convince someone already, some added low-res video won't do it either. For that matter, why wouldn't a Truther simply declare some high-quality images to be be faked? :boggled:
 
I must admit since putting together this blog there are some people who will never, ever, change their mind. No matter how much evidence I put in there, it's not enough.

Sad really.
 
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cjnewson88 said:
I must admit since putting together this blog there are some people who will never, ever, change their mind. No matter how much evidence I put in there, it's not enough.

Sad really.
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Sadly, you have your detractors, but they never offer anything of substance in refutation of your studies.
 
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cjnewson88 said:
I must admit since putting together this blog there are some people who will never, ever, change their mind. No matter how much evidence I put in there, it's not enough.

Sad really.
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There are none so blind as those that will not see.

It seemed fitting.

Love your work CJ!
:):thumbsup:
 
Bouncing Bettys said:
CJ, I sat through your flight recreations on youtube. Captivating stuff. Any plans to add to them in the future?
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Hi, thanks, I did plan to do a few more. I would really like to do a recreation of the Otis F-15's. But unfortunately I no longer have time for it. So I'll just leave them as they are.
 
cantonear1968 said:
The AA 77 FDR thread I read the whole thing. And anything else CIT/PF911T related that I could find. Rob and the treehouse gang were by far the most entertaining. ....speaking as an outsider not having to deal with their craziness.
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I hope we're seeing the final death throes of that vanity site called "Pilots for 9/11 Truth." I say "vanity site" because it has never really been anything other than a forum for "Cap't Bob" Balsamo to exercise his need for control and anger-management therapy (which is not working).

There has been very little talk about anything 9/11 aviation-related over the past few years. Rather, his club members seem to have glommed onto claims of "false flag" events, claiming just about every event happening anywhere around the world is being orchestrated by the nefarious Illuminati or the Bush World Control Squad or something. I've been watching out for their claims that Cheney and Rumsfeld were behind the Brussels bombing but I guess they are running a bit behind.

Our Pentagon-based super-double-secret "Covert-Agent Infiltration of Nutjob Internet Forums" (CAIN-IF) team had a meeting last week and we debated dropping Balsamo's treehouse due to lack of any worthwhile or notable. We decided to give them a few more weeks to come back around to 9/11 aviation malarkey. Its expensive keeping all those fake bloggers and fake forum members on the payroll.
 
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