Still think Australia doesn't have a gang problem?

[marplots]

You're making it too complicated, what if the fire extinguisher didn't subdue him, and you got cut or killed? Or worse a loved one you had with you was hurt?

What if there was an electrical fire in his pacemaker? Jesus, is there no limit on things I can fret about?

If you're carrying a gun around just to be able to have the chance to shoot someone, you probably shouldn't be carrying. I don't know anyone who carries for that purpose, as a matter of fact, killing that person was the last thing the hero wanted to do today, he'll never forget the horror of it. But thank God he was there.

If I've misunderstood, please correct me.

Maybe I misunderstood. Why was he carrying the gun if not so he'd be prepared to shoot someone? Was he hunting? Was it a fashion accessory? Traditional dress code?

I'm stymied by the idea that someone would carry a gun around without considering the why's and wherefore's. I carried for awhile. It wasn't an insignificant thing to do. You have the weight, the holster, the "oops, sorry, I didn't mean to flash my gun," all the various rules about where you can carry it and where not. I never thought it a casual thing to do.

Are you suggesting it's more like how I carry a pocketknife without much thought? Could be I've made a false assumption. But even with my pocketknife, I carry it because I think it might be useful to have - and it has been.

ETA: On a side note, these stories always sound to me like reasons why I should play the lottery, instead of reasons to buy insurance.

 

[logger]

Maybe I misunderstood. Why was he carrying the gun if not so he'd be prepared to shoot someone? Was he hunting? Was it a fashion accessory? Traditional dress code?

I thought you implied people carry for the excitement of shooting someone. Its the last thing anyone wants to do, same as cops. apologies if I misunderstood.

 

[arthwollipot]

Australia doesn't have centuries of slavery and institutional persecution/ghettoisation against a substantial ethnic minority. That's why gang violence is worse in the US than largely homogeneous Australia.

You're right - we didn't enslave our indigenous minorities. We just committed genocide against them in a systematic and deliberate national policy driven attempt to wipe them and their culture off the face of the planet.

In some places we almost succeeded. In one place we did succeed.

 

[rjh01]

If this was an organised fight with weapons then why was no one injured? I suggest everything was for show. Easy to break something with chains, clubs or other weapons. Hard to not do so.

The article doesn't really say that weapons were used during the fight. The only mention of weapons was that someone posted a picture of different types some time prior to the fight.

What sort of organised fight is it when participants goes to it without weapons? Easy enough to go to a shop and buy a cricket or baseball bat then head directly to the fight. Afterwards dump the weapon.

So my question stands. What sort of fight is it that is premeditated yet no one gets hurt?

 

[NWO Sentryman]

You're right - we didn't enslave our indigenous minorities. We just committed genocide against them in a systematic and deliberate national policy driven attempt to wipe them and their culture off the face of the planet.

In some places we almost succeeded. In one place we did succeed.

I'm thinking more Australia never had anything on the level of New Jim Crow, where black people are routinely criminalised and forced into further poverty and crime as a vicious cycle. That makes gang violence in America far worse than any other factor, including guns.

 

[logger]

I'm thinking more Australia never had anything on the level of New Jim Crow, where black people are routinely criminalised and forced into further poverty and crime as a vicious cycle. That makes gang violence in America far worse than any other factor, including guns.

Lol

Black people are not forced into anything. I'm surrounded by successful blacks who made the correct normal choices in life. They had parents who cared and made sure they were raised in a way that gives a young person a chance.

The ones who are criminals, chose it.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Lol

Black people are not forced into anything. I'm surrounded by successful blacks who made the correct normal choices in life. They had parents who cared and made sure they were raised in a way that gives a young person a chance.

The ones who are criminals, chose it.

Check out New Jim Crow when you get the chance. It basically looks at how Black Americans have, since Emancipation, been marginalised into poverty on an institutional level. Although the malicious racists have long gone from the scene, their legacies in those institutions (Criminal Justice, Housing, Welfare etc.) can still be felt.