Global warming discussion IV

[Steve001]

You're missing his point! I believe he's talking about public opinion.

When I read stuff posted by persons that have the same position you've expressed it makes me wonder why it's so difficult for you and persons like you to seriously consider that the daily and industrial activities of 7,000,000,000+ and growing people couldn't have an effect on Earth's climate? Generally from what I've seen, such disbelief it based upon economics i.e. How will climate change effect me? Will I lose my job? Will I have to change the way I want to live my life for the worst? Will it destroy capitalism? So what is the root cause of your disbelief? Please do tell.

 

[aleCcowaN]

... Generally from what I've seen, such disbelief it based upon economics i.e. How will climate change effect me? Will I lose my job? Will I have to change the way I want to live my life for the worst? Will it destroy capitalism? So what is the root cause of your disbelief? Please do tell.

It's more like they would continue to pollute the rivers, hadn't fines for doing so being involved. As well they'd kill all wildlife they find to be nasty, or n-word people they find not to be of their taste, or treat Jews like they treat Muslims , or whatever it is now punishable, ticketable or at least unfashionable. They don't do it for the kindness of their heart, the same way they won't hand-collect their dogs' **** in urban environments just because they have a keen sense of social aesthetics.

Let's be clear: AGW denialism, the Cruz type -as well as all the strayed soul's that now and again swarm around here- , exists just to avoid the actions causing AGW to be punished and remediation to be enforced. And nothing else.

It's as simple as they won't say they give a darn for their dogs' **** and the inconveniences it causes. They'll say their dogs don't **** AND dog**** is aesthetically attractive, environmental friendly AND **** happens. It's just claiming first amendment rights to cause social confusion and thus avoid pleading the fifth.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Related with the BS logger was trying to sell here.

Attention, citizens of the USA. Denialist BS resists to be gone in official sites:

Here, NSIDC continues to publish the distorted figure concocted by denialist minds.

If you have forgotten, that was pointed out here time ago, together with sloppiness within the site. They corrected the pages and withdrew the offending figure, but now it has surface again.

Relevant post about how to lie just by telling the truth: You only need common people on the other side of the equation.

By the way, speaking of loose denialists, what happened to Haig? TSI is now down to 1379 W/m2 (-2.5% less than January 6th), and dropping almost 1W/m2 a day. Why is it the planet warming almost 0.1°C a week these days?

 

[logger]

When I read stuff posted by persons that have the same position you've expressed it makes me wonder why it's so difficult for you and persons like you to seriously consider that the daily and industrial activities of 7,000,000,000+ and growing people couldn't have an effect on Earth's climate? Generally from what I've seen, such disbelief it based upon economics i.e. How will climate change effect me? Will I lose my job? Will I have to change the way I want to live my life for the worst? Will it destroy capitalism? So what is the root cause of your disbelief? Please do tell.

Great questions!

I don't believe human beings living their lives in normal ways hurts anything. The warmist believes humans can change the climate even though they can't tell us what the weather will be tomorrow yet their models tell us what its going to be 30 years from now. Its laughable.

I'll take this opportunity to address all the insults too. Posters on here constantly talk about people like me getting educated to the hoax of AGW, granted I certainly don't know as much as you fine fellas about the science of AWG, but there are plenty of scientist who disagree with you.

Certainly capitalism is under attack from this hoax, this whole hoax can be summed up in one word, money. Most of you posting here are probably on the take just as the next corrupt scientist. And yes, I'm not changing my lifestyle for any hoax, if you believe this crap so much, you need to do much more to lessen your own carbon footprint, that way they'll be more carbon for me to burn at a cheaper price.

Which is why most of the old communist are with you, its a great way to seize power.

 

[logger]

Related with the BS logger was trying to sell here.

I sell lumber and I certainly wouldn't sell it to you. So no, not trying to sell anything, just trying to help you guys not sound so elitist as you try to sell this hoax.

Attention, citizens of the USA. Denialist BS resists to be gone in official sites:

Here, NSIDC continues to publish the distorted figure concocted by denialist minds.

If you have forgotten, that was pointed out here time ago, together with sloppiness within the site. They corrected the pages and withdrew the offending figure, but now it has surface again.

Relevant post about how to lie just by telling the truth: You only need common people on the other side of the equation.

By the way, speaking of loose denialists, what happened to Haig? TSI is now down to 1379 W/m2 (-2.5% less than January 6th), and dropping almost 1W/m2 a day. Why is it the planet warming almost 0.1°C a week these days?

I love reading opinions from an elitist as you post from some backward little country.

 

[aleCcowaN]

I don't believe human beings...

And what the heck matters what you believe? What matters is what you know. So far, it seems to be nothing regarding to the subject at hand.

It's pretty sad. Other denialists at least try to google and concoct something that might look like an argument. With you nobody gets anything but your baseless "opionionation".

Provide something. Try at least to pretend.

 

[logger]

It's more like they would continue to pollute the rivers, hadn't fines for doing so being involved. As well they'd kill all wildlife they find to be nasty, or n-word people they find not to be of their taste, or treat Jews like they treat Muslims , or whatever it is now punishable, ticketable or at least unfashionable. They don't do it for the kindness of their heart, the same way they won't hand-collect their dogs' **** in urban environments just because they have a keen sense of social aesthetics.

Let's be clear: AGW denialism, the Cruz type -as well as all the strayed soul's that now and again swarm around here- , exists just to avoid the actions causing AGW to be punished and remediation to be enforced. And nothing else.

It's as simple as they won't say they give a darn for their dogs' **** and the inconveniences it causes. They'll say their dogs don't **** AND dog**** is aesthetically attractive, environmental friendly AND **** happens. It's just claiming first amendment rights to cause social confusion and thus avoid pleading the fifth.

This whole post is nothing but politics, everyone knows where the frauds are coming from.

Business and corporations have been completely abused trying to live up to the regulations, many were sorely needed, many have put people out of business, not that that matters to you.

 

[logger]

And what the heck matters what you believe? What matters is what you know. So far, it seems to be nothing regarding to the subject at hand.

It's pretty sad. Other denialists at least try to google and concoct something that might look like an argument. With you nobody gets anything but your baseless "opionionation".

Provide something. Try at least to pretend.

Why should I pretend? There's plenty of others who have the time to give you what you so desperately need.

 

[aleCcowaN]

I sell lumber and I certainly wouldn't sell it to you. So no, not trying to sell anything, just trying to help you guys not sound so elitist as you try to sell this hoax.


I love reading opinions from an elitist as you post from some backward little country.

Just in case you try to edit it further .

And for your candid remarks: yes, in your country certainly somebody has it the size you don't. That somebody was absent in that publication.

 

[Trakar]

...Business and corporations have been completely abused trying to live up to the regulations, many were sorely needed, many have put people out of business, not that that matters to you.

Oh mys, why doesn't anyone think of the poor whale-oil titans and all the workers and businesses that petroleum has put out of business...?

 

[Pixel42]

they can't tell us what the weather will be tomorrow yet their models tell us what its going to be 30 years from now. Its laughable.

Do you also laugh when they predict that summer will be warmer than winter? Six months is a lot further away than tomorrow too, right?

 

[aleCcowaN]

This whole post is nothing but politics...

(unless it was intended to be self-referential, in which case, I apologize)

 

[aleCcowaN]

Why should I pretend?

Oh, I see! You don't understand them either.

 

[CapelDodger]

I know you want to get into some kind of argument about this, but any Google search will tell you most are divided on this issue.

On what issue?

Interesting that you would admit the Antarctic has been high and low, seems to be where everyone is.

What do you mean by "the Antarctic"? The region south of the Antarctic circle or the continent? I can't see how either could become higher or lower.

Of course you might mean Antarctic sea-ice extent, and more specifically winter maximum Antarctic sea-ice extent. This has been higher than it was last winter, and lower. It's variable.

The only thing that remains in my head is the science is clearly not settled. your side likes to make leaps and guesses, my side likes to ignore certain facts.

What science? The observations of Antarctic sea-ice are settled and signify very little.

One fact is clear, the snark that drips from this site and this thread specifically is not going to change anyone's mind. People simply don't trust the kind of science or scientist that post on here.

We know your mind won't change, but you can't see into the minds of those less convinced than you.

 

[CapelDodger]

Do you also laugh when they predict that summer will be warmer than winter? Six months is a lot further away than tomorrow too, right?

The old ones are the best.

When did we last hear anything new from these people? The "AGW isn't true because climate science is politicised" was the first argument I heard, and that's got to be thirty years ago.

It's as entertaining as watching ice melt.

 

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Gesundheit!