RE: clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

[TheL8Elvis]

Hillary's aides copied and pasted top secret reports from the CIA and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency into Hillary's homebrew server.

That was more convenient for Hillary.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-sp...y-matched-top-secret-documents-sources-2016-2

However, the agency reports found some emails included passages that closely tracked or mirrored communications marked "top secret," according to the sources, who all requested anonymity.

Which one, closely tracked or mirrored ?

And can you point out in the article where it says the emails originated with Hillary's aides ?

(hint, no, you can't because you made that part up )

From:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ttorneys-involved-in-clinton-email-probe.html

The email chain was forwarded, on Sept. 16, 2012 at 8:12 a.m, from Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills' government account to Clinton’s unsecured personal server. One of the emails early in the chain was sent by Denis McDonough, then Deputy National Security adviser. His address is redacted citing “unwarranted invasion of personal privacy” and could also be a private account because other government accounts on the email chain are not redacted

This seems to indicate that perhaps it's not Hillary's aides responsible.

Maybe it was OMG11!!!ELVENTY SID BLUMENTHALL

Any bets on who Clinton is going to throw under the bus first?

The buck stops at Huma!

If there actually is copy pasta from TS documents that got put in an email from Mills, Huma, or Sullivan and sent to Clinton, one of them might be under the bus. But in that scenario it doesn't seem like because they got thrown.

The "some emails included passages that closely tracked or mirrored communications marked "top secret," bit seems like the only potentially new and relevant thing, and may indicate someone is going to be in some kind of trouble for sending some email. Still doubt it's Hillary.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

So adorable.

Trump has far more skeletons.

And far more teflon wrap apparently :|

Speaking of... i am not finding it particularly unusual not to see much commentary from the FBI on their stuff.

Also, close the god damn loop hole she exploited along with her republican peers and call it a day if she's not getting indicted or penalized.

I rant on this mostly at the politicians... of course, not you. I see this problem easily as coming back up at some point because everybody likes to have this argument about the most situational ethics... i admit my politics make me more incli ed to criticize her but realism about the overall situation remains a must

 

[The Big Dog]

Which one, closely tracked or mirrored ?

And can you point out in the article where it says the emails originated with Hillary's aides ?

(hint, no, you can't because you made that part up )

From:


The email chain was forwarded, on Sept. 16, 2012 at 8:12 a.m, from Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills' government account to Clinton’s unsecured personal server.

Such is what passes for reading comprehension in Hillary land. Oh well....

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Such is what passes for reading comprehension in Hillary land. Oh well....

Do you not understand the difference between forwarded and originated ?

Such is what passes for reading comprehension in HDS land. Oh well....

 

[shuize]

Clinton is lucky there's no evidence of her telling her underlings to remove the "Classified" heading from sensitive documents and send them to an unsecure server ... Oh wait.

If the rule of law still means anything in this country, people are going to get prosecuted over this. Clinton will be lucky if meet name isn't on the list.

 

[The Big Dog]

1818

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/u...ts-to-a-key-role-played-by-a-deputy.html?_r=0

 

[Dog Town]

Do you not understand the difference between forwarded and originated ?

Such is what passes for reading comprehension in HDS land. Oh well....

Yes, HRC devotees still show HDS! This is a prime example. I miss the depths of the ocean! I see a lot has happened since...

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Looking at some of those links and others it would appear that everyone used private email accounts from John Kerry to Denis McDonough.

 

[Dog Town]

Looking at some of those links and others it would appear that everyone used private email accounts from John Kerry to Denis McDonough.

Is that singular?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Looking at some of those links and others it would appear that everyone used private email accounts from John Kerry to Denis McDonough.

The Times article also shows that there was a level of awareness, by professionals in the exchange, that some things are classified and some things aren't. The HDS slant on it is that this indicates willy-nilly flaunting of the rules. The saner interpretation is that these folks deal with this sort of security issue all the time and likely had the silly notion that re-sending a report that was available in the NY Times or on the AJ website was likely not a huge breech of security regardless that some minion in one or another of the multiple security agencies now deems that "gee, we'd probably not like to see that discussed even if it's already being discussed in pubs and coffee shops around the world and in four hundred news articles".

 

[Dog Town]

The Times article also shows that there was a level of awareness, by professionals in the exchange, that some things are classified and some things aren't.

Hence the FBI!

 

[The Big Dog]

The Times article also shows that there was a level of awareness, by professionals in the exchange, that some things are classified and some things aren't. The HDS slant on it is that this indicates willy-nilly flaunting of the rules. The saner interpretation is that these folks deal with this sort of security issue all the time and likely had the silly notion that re-sending a report that was available in the NY Times or on the AJ website was likely not a huge breech of security regardless that some minion in one or another of the multiple security agencies now deems that "gee, we'd probably not like to see that discussed even if it's already being discussed in pubs and coffee shops around the world and in four hundred news articles".

Wrong.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Wrong.

Hard to argue with logic like that, I tell ya!

 

[Foolmewunz]

Hence the FBI!

Yeah, because they have such a history of neutrality.

 

[Dog Town]

Yeah, because they have such a history of neutrality.

CT is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[WildCat]

Yeah, because they have such a history of neutrality.

I know, just ask any 9/11 truther of JFK conspiracy theorist!

 

[Leftus]

The Times article also shows that there was a level of awareness, by professionals in the exchange, that some things are classified and some things aren't. The HDS slant on it is that this indicates willy-nilly flaunting of the rules. The saner interpretation is that these folks deal with this sort of security issue all the time and likely had the silly notion that re-sending a report that was available in the NY Times or on the AJ website was likely not a huge breech of security regardless that some minion in one or another of the multiple security agencies now deems that "gee, we'd probably not like to see that discussed even if it's already being discussed in pubs and coffee shops around the world and in four hundred news articles".

You can't have it both ways. Either they knew the rules and chose to violate them or they did so unintentionally. They don't get to decide the difference between "a huge breech" and a, what, "standard breech." The laws do not allow for such a distinction and they knew that as well. If they choose to create "standard" or even "low level" breeches of security, then it's an intentional violation of the law.

It's not the sane view to state they they both violated the law and did not commit a crime.

And why is it that the Clinton folks are the only people who understand the security rules but every professional at every other government agency as well as those at the State department who have stated that there was top secret material is somehow a "minion."

 

[The Big Dog]

You can't have it both ways. Either they knew the rules and chose to violate them or they did so unintentionally. They don't get to decide the difference between "a huge breech" and a, what, "standard breech." The laws do not allow for such a distinction and they knew that as well. If they choose to create "standard" or even "low level" breeches of security, then it's an intentional violation of the law.

It's not the sane view to state they they both violated the law and did not commit a crime.

And why is it that the Clinton folks are the only people who understand the security rules but every professional at every other government agency as well as those at the State department who have stated that there was top secret material is somehow a "minion."

One does not to speculate, in making his ruling this week, the judge was baffled that the State Department permitted to Clinton to set up a system that was explicitly designed to avoid open records laws. Now he is going to order discovery to determine how and that happened.

 

[The Big Dog]

Here is a fairly detailed summary of the latest Hillary dump of emails from Jason Leopold, the guy who has been the driving force behind exposing Hillary's gross violations of open record laws.

https://news.vice.com/article/south-carolina-primary-hillary-clinton-emails-are-released

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

You can't have it both ways. Either they knew the rules and chose to violate them or they did so unintentionally. They don't get to decide the difference between "a huge breech" and a, what, "standard breech." The laws do not allow for such a distinction and they knew that as well. If they choose to create "standard" or even "low level" breeches of security, then it's an intentional violation of the law.

It's not the sane view to state they they both violated the law and did not commit a crime.

And why is it that the Clinton folks are the only people who understand the security rules but every professional at every other government agency as well as those at the State department who have stated that there was top secret material is somehow a "minion."

Or they did their jobs imperfectly like workers in every other place of business in the world, but it wasn't criminal.