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Hillary Clinton is Done

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BenBurch said:
Her campaign has been pressuring the relatives of the protester to denounce her in the media. Slimy.
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Lacking evidence, I write this off as unfounded gossip eminating from the Bernie bubble.

In any case, I deplore the tactics of Black Lives Matter activists.
 
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varwoche said:
In any case, I deplore the tactics of Black Lives Matter activists.
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:eye-poppi

How dare they call Hillary out for saying:

“They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘superpredators.’ No conscience, no empathy." “We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
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A BlackLivesMatter activist paid $500 for a Hillary fundraising event.

DEPLORABLE!!!

Hillary kicked her out!

HOORAY!

The mindset of a Hillary Fan. HDS.
 
16.5 said:
:eye-poppi

How dare they call Hillary out for saying:
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Did you watch the full context of that quote? I've seen it posted on Youtube cut exactly as you posted, but if you include the speech leading up until then, the "kids" she is talking about are members of the most dangerous organized gangs in the country. Not only that, but she isn't even talking about all gang members.

Do you disagree with calling gang members who kill people and flood communities with drugs "superpredators". That was clearly the demographic she was labeling and anyone who pretends otherwise is being dishonest.
 
16.5 said:
The #whichHillary hashtag has been removed from the trending topics on Twitter although it is the most popular topic on that website..

In other news, a Twitter Executive is hosting a Hillary Clinton fundraiser at his home this Sunday.
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CT forum is ->
 
wareyin said:
You admitted that the whole push for transcripts is to provide work for the United Quote-Mine Workers of America when you claimed it would provide unreasonable grist for the mill. That right there is a reasonable explanation.
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I admitted nothing of the sort. That's entirely your supposition. The unreasonable will always find work, because they're unreasonable. That doesn't mean this is entirely their doing. I think that the reasonable will probably also find work in these transcripts, and that it is reasonable to ask for them regardless of whether the unreasonable will find work because of it.

Whether it's reasonable to provide the transcripts is up to you to argue. Me acknowledging that there would be some unreasonable fallout is not your argument. Only your argument is your argument. I would be interested to see a version of your argument that is entirely your own work, and does not depend at all on telling me that my posts express thoughts and feelings which I do not actually have.
 
theprestige said:
I admitted nothing of the sort. That's entirely your supposition. The unreasonable will always find work, because they're unreasonable. That doesn't mean this is entirely their doing. I think that the reasonable will probably also find work in these transcripts, and that it is reasonable to ask for them regardless of whether the unreasonable will find work because of it.

Whether it's reasonable to provide the transcripts is up to you to argue. Me acknowledging that there would be some unreasonable fallout is not your argument. Only your argument is your argument. I would be interested to see a version of your argument that is entirely your own work, and does not depend at all on telling me that my posts express thoughts and feelings which I do not actually have.
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I attributed no thoughts or feelings whatsoever to you. I merely pointed out that your post gave a reasonable explanation for not providing transcripts. You may not agree with what you wrote, but you did write it.
 
wareyin said:
I attributed no thoughts or feelings whatsoever to you. I merely pointed out that your post gave a reasonable explanation for not providing transcripts. You may not agree with what you wrote, but you did write it.
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You pointed out that I "admitted that the whole push for transcripts is to provide work for the United Quote-Mine Workers of America".

Can you quote the passage where I made that admission?

Can you also point out where I argued that unreasonable grist for the mill is a good reason not to disclose? Because I think that's actually your argument to make. If you think that what I wrote supports your argument, then go ahead and cite it in that context. But first you'll have to make your argument, instead of simply claiming that I've made it for you.
 
Cavemonster said:
Did you watch the full context of that quote? I've seen it posted on Youtube cut exactly as you posted, but if you include the speech leading up until then, the "kids" she is talking about are members of the most dangerous organized gangs in the country. Not only that, but she isn't even talking about all gang members.

Do you disagree with calling gang members who kill people and flood communities with drugs "superpredators". That was clearly the demographic she was labeling and anyone who pretends otherwise is being dishonest.
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Dishonest.

Yeah, I will certainly make sure I let black lives matters activists know that you consider them: "dishonest." Oh, deplorable too as someone else said.

By the way, all the "context" in the world is not going get around this:

"bring them to heel." Yeah hillary thinks people = dogs.

That's our Hillary!

/good to see the Hillary talking points got distributed, tho. Yesterday I was like: where is everybody?:D
 
Argumemnon said:
So it doesn't matter who she was talking about or why?

If I say that ISIS are animals and should be shot like animals, does that means that I think that people = animals?
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It's desperate politicking. Cons are afraid that Hillary might win the nomination, and Bernie's supporters behave like Paultards and jump on anything to demonize the opposition.

I mean, I like Bernie. I would prefer him over Hillary, but this is ridiculous.
 
theprestige said:
You pointed out that I "admitted that the whole push for transcripts is to provide work for the United Quote-Mine Workers of America".

Can you quote the passage where I made that admission?
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It is the logical conclusion from pushing for transcripts to be released when you know that they will be used as unreasonable grist for the mill. If you believe there is some other reason for this push for the transcripts, please do provide your reasoning.

Can you also point out where I argued that unreasonable grist for the mill is a good reason not to disclose? Because I think that's actually your argument to make. If you think that what I wrote supports your argument, then go ahead and cite it in that context. But first you'll have to make your argument, instead of simply claiming that I've made it for you.
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You did not argue that unreasonable grist is a good reason, you pointed out that disclosure would result in unreasonable grist. Unless you contend that unreasonable grist for the mill is somehow a good thing, rather than the unreasonable thing it appears, then that is a good reason to not disclose.

Better yet, please explain why disclosure is at all necessary, rather than demanding others give reasons it is not. We know, after all, that no one other than Clinton in this race is being called on to disclose transcripts. Why should she? And why only her?
 
16.5 said:
Dishonest.

Yeah, I will certainly make sure I let black lives matters activists know that you consider them: "dishonest." Oh, deplorable too as someone else said.

By the way, all the "context" in the world is not going get around this:

"bring them to heel." Yeah hillary thinks people = dogs.

That's our Hillary!

/good to see the Hillary talking points got distributed, tho. Yesterday I was like: where is everybody?:D
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You, you go ahead and bring that up at your next black lives matters local meeting.:rolleyes:
:dl:
 
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