States refusing to accept Syrian refugees

Buckyball said:
The refugees have to have a network already in place where they attack. These networks just don't exist in the United States, like they do in Europe. ...
The ones (domestic terrorists, and the upstart networks) the United States has now are being taken down on a regular basis, before they can even come close to executing their first attack. ...
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Overly optimistic, I am certain.
 
cullennz said:
Criticise away. As I said we probably could have taken more

Ie I tend to agree with you
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Yeah. Must be mass Kiwi paranoia, to paraphrase you.

If you Kiwis keep shirking your international duty while constantly badmouthing other countries, you're going to end up with poor international relations.

By your own reasoning, of course, so I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir here.
 
Toontown said:
Yeah. Must be mass Kiwi paranoia, to paraphrase you.

If you Kiwis keep shirking your international duty while constantly badmouthing other countries, you're going to end up with poor international relations.

By your own reasoning, of course, so I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir here.
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I don't know why you think you will wind me up
 
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Caper said:
Wouldn't it be a hole lot easier if the US only took Christian refugees or non religious refugees? They would be much much easier to integrate then Muslims.

Let Muslim nations take the Muslim refugees and majority christian nations take the christian refugees.

Problem solved.
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Of course! All you need is a guaranteed foolproof way of ensuring they are indeed Christians. Because any starving, frightened Muslim refugees fleeing chaos and armed conflict with barely the clothes on their backs are not going to pretend to be Christians to get to safety.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Of course! All you need is a guaranteed foolproof way of ensuring they are indeed Christians. Because any starving, frightened Muslim refugees fleeing chaos and armed conflict with barely the clothes on their backs are not going to pretend to be Christians to get to safety.
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Just feed them a ham sandwich and check for intact genitals.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Of course! All you need is a guaranteed foolproof way of ensuring they are indeed Christians. Because any starving, frightened Muslim refugees fleeing chaos and armed conflict with barely the clothes on their backs are not going to pretend to be Christians to get to safety.
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Sure some might. But you would still get a majority Christian group. I don't care if a small percentage is Muslim. What I am against is a mass migration of Muslims that come to Western societies in to great of number where they can integrate. Christian would fit into a largely christian society much quicker then Muslims.
 
Caper said:
Sure some might. But you would still get a majority Christian group. I don't care if a small percentage is Muslim. What I am against is a mass migration of Muslims that come to Western societies in to great of number where they can integrate. Christian would fit into a largely christian society much quicker then Muslims.
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I think syrians will do fine, they were a mostly secular society under assad.
 
ThunderChunky said:
More like 70K, but 100K is how many refugees the US plans to take in next year. They're just not all from Syria so I guess they don't count.
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To compare like with like I suggest that the number of Syrian refugees planned by New Zealand should be compared to number of Syrian refugees planned by the U.S. on a per-capita basis and that the total number refugees planned by New Zealand should be compared to the total number of refugees planned by the U.S. on a per capita basis.

The U.S. population is around 100 times that of the New Zealand population. To have an equivalent number of Syrian refugees, the U.S. would have to take in around 75,000.

For the last 3 years, New Zealand has been accepting around 750 refugees a year which again would translate to around 75,000 a year for the U.S.

Looking at these numbers it seems that the United States accepts proportionally more refugees than New Zealand but was planning to take fewer Syrian refugees.
 
I wish NZ would reject the Syrian refugees too. One survey shows that 13% of Syrian refugees support ISIS. Why take the risk that my houseguest wants to chop my head off? Either that or they are mostly Muslim anyway, which particular meme spawned these terrorists to start with. Many of the radical Islamists in France now are the offspring of refugees from Algeria many years ago.

Us western countries and being played like fools by the Muslim world taking advantage of the Syrian war. The rich oil producing countries have plenty of space and money, let them stay there. We don't need poor, semi-skilled people with a handful of terror supporters soaking up our welfare money and spreading Islam. They already think they are going to take over the world, why give them a helping hand?
 
Spaghetti said:
I wish NZ would reject the Syrian refugees too. One survey shows that 13% of Syrian refugees support ISIS. Why take the risk that my houseguest wants to chop my head off? Either that or they are mostly Muslim anyway, which particular meme spawned these terrorists to start with. Many of the radical Islamists in France now are the offspring of refugees from Algeria many years ago.

Us western countries and being played like fools by the Muslim world taking advantage of the Syrian war. The rich oil producing countries have plenty of space and money, let them stay there. We don't need poor, semi-skilled people with a handful of terror supporters soaking up our welfare money and spreading Islam. They already think they are going to take over the world, why give them a helping hand?
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We aren't that paranoid about the .001% who might be extremists

The rest are just people in a horrible situation who happen to be Muslim
 
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