Carson: "Joseph built the pyramids to store grain"

"Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions" (If you want the see the article, google the title to get around the WSJ paywall)



What is wrong with this guy? In an attempt to make people think he's honest, he makes up a story about how he was only honest student in the class. Except that the story isn't even believable because in no way would him staying to take an extra, more difficult test make him more honest than the rest of the students.

If 150 students walked out of a Yale class in rage at the professor, the professor (if he's still alive), his grad assistants and 150 students would be able to talk about now, and it probably would have been widely discussed at the time. But Carson seems to be only person who knows about it? Genuinely crazy.
 
"Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions" (If you want the see the article, google the title to get around the WSJ paywall)



What is wrong with this guy? In an attempt to make people think he's honest, he makes up a story about how he was only honest student in the class. Except that the story isn't even believable because in no way would him staying to take an extra, more difficult test make him more honest than the rest of the students.

There are just so many unbelievable aspects to the passage you quoted. The cover story that the first exam burned.. Burned? How on Earth could that happen? The use of this as some sort of test of honesty? How? At most it is a test of someone's willingness to attend an exam twice due to no fault of their own. Patience maybe, or forgiveness, or even sheepishness, but not honesty. If you wanted a test of honesty you would pretend that you lost the exam scores after you distributed them and then ask the students for what their score was. Everyone else walked out? In my experience this has the same probability of the pyramids being used for grain storage (don't the dead bodies create an off-flavor in the grain?). I teach at the college level, and no one would walk out on an exam because it was too difficult- they would take it, and might protest later asking for a friendly curve, but they would never walk out because they know that without sitting through the exam they would all score a zero on the test (which is worse than the score for any difficult test you might take).

I agree- something is very wrong with someone who makes up this kind of story. Now apparently he is in the position of having to convince people that he was indeed a juvenile delinquent when many others say that he was in fact a nice kid- odd, right?
 
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If 150 students walked out of a Yale class in rage at the professor, the professor (if he's still alive), his grad assistants and 150 students would be able to talk about now, and it probably would have been widely discussed at the time. But Carson seems to be only person who knows about it? Genuinely crazy.

I've had fair, fair less dramatic events occur involving a single student in one of my classes and I still remember and tell of the event 25 years later.
 
Carson slams reporters over questions about his past

"The vetting that you all did with President Obama doesn't even come close, doesn't even come close to what you guys are trying to do in my case, and you're just going to keep going back, 'He said this 12 years ago' -- it is just garbage," Carson said.

To vet Carson more than Obama, I think they'd have to go back a little further than 12 years. Like maybe before Ben's parents were born.
 
"Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions" (If you want the see the article, google the title to get around the WSJ paywall)



What is wrong with this guy? In an attempt to make people think he's honest, he makes up a story about how he was only honest student in the class. Except that the story isn't even believable because in no way would him staying to take an extra, more difficult test make him more honest than the rest of the students.
Wow, with that much material, how many times can he use the excuse all our memories are fuzzy? The guy's a regular confabulator.
 
The liberal media has vowed to destroy him. If Hillary Clinton posited this theory, the MSM would call it "provocative" and "interesting." They would invite Harvard talking-heads to lend support to the idea.

A couple of points.

A) did Dr. Carson, himself, take this vow as well? I ask because he seems quite capable of destroying his campaign without the help of the liberal media.

Actually, I was never fully convinced he wanted to be president anyway. To me, it looked like a way to sell books and perhaps wrangle a job in the next administration or a job in the right-wing media.

B) is it possible that some of the more powerful behind-the-scenes Republicans are working to reduce his chances of being president?
 
A couple of points.

A) did Dr. Carson, himself, take this vow as well? I ask because he seems quite capable of destroying his campaign without the help of the liberal media.

Actually, I was never fully convinced he wanted to be president anyway. To me, it looked like a way to sell books and perhaps wrangle a job in the next administration or a job in the right-wing media.

B) is it possible that some of the more powerful behind-the-scenes Republicans are working to reduce his chances of being president?

A) Not doing a great job of book-selling either.
B) Yes.
 
There are just so many unbelievable aspects to the passage you quoted. The cover story that the first exam burned.. Burned? How on Earth could that happen? The use of this as some sort of test of honesty? How? At most it is a test of someone's willingness to attend an exam twice due to no fault of their own. Patience maybe, or forgiveness, or even sheepishness, but not honesty. If you wanted a test of honesty you would pretend that you lost the exam scores after you distributed them and then ask the students for what their score was. Everyone else walked out? In my experience this has the same probability of the pyramids being used for grain storage (don't the dead bodies create an off-flavor in the grain?). I teach at the college level, and no one would walk out on an exam because it was too difficult- they would take it, and might protest later asking for a friendly curve, but they would never walk out because they know that without sitting through the exam they would all score a zero on the test (which is worse than the score for any difficult test you might take).

I agree- something is very wrong with someone who makes up this kind of story. Now apparently he is in the position of having to convince people that he was indeed a juvenile delinquent when many others say that he was in fact a nice kid- odd, right?

Thanks for spelling out everything that was wrong with the story.

That he made up a story in an apparent attempt to deceive readers into believing that he's exceptionally honest is pretty minor compared to the fact that he thought that the story was believable enough to put in his autobiography. The latter suggests to me that he is very, very stupid (while at the same time somehow being a world renowned doctor) or literally suffers from some kind of mental disorder.


And yeah, he is literally defending him self from accusations that he didn't attempt to murder somebody when he was a kid. Truly bizarre.

It will be interesting to see how all this affects his poll numbers. That he somehow got to the top of the polls in the first place is an indictment to how insane the Republican party has become. If he stays there...
 
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On the other hand, he is a doctor.

All their "This won't hurt a bit" or "You'll just feel a little pinch" I think does something to their souls.
 
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Carson slams reporters over questions about his past



To vet Carson more than Obama, I think they'd have to go back a little further than 12 years. Like maybe before Ben's parents were born.

Since Obama is a Marxist, Kenyan, Muslim on a mission to destroy America, the lack of evidence to support this fact simply means that he wasn't properly vetted by the mainstream media thus proving their enormous bias.
 
On the other hand, he is a doctor.

All their "This won't hurt a bit" or "You'll just feel a little pinch" I think does something to their souls.

Doctor: "You may feel some pressure... Or agonizing intense excruciating pain the likes of which you have never previously experienced and which you will never forget... Frankly, I suspect the latter, but it I find it best not to tell you in advance."
 
The Guardian has a rather scary article about Carson, with a photo-gallery of Carson's house. Carson portrayed with Jesus, endless plaques and memorabilia bigging-up Carson... The man's a nutjob.

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Thanks for spelling out everything that was wrong with the story.

Seconded.

When I read the story, I thought I was missing some large piece of the puzzle because it didn't make sense to me. This time it wasn't poor reading comprehension on my part.
 
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