Continuation Part 18: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[Vixen]

When are you going to get this straight? Or do you insist on LYING about it for the rest of your life? Amanda DIDN'T have special knowledge of the crime!

Your latest heroes, Bruno & Marasca (sounds like a west coast folk duo) have made it legally official, Amanda's very own affirmation: "I was there!"

They also confirm Raff was certainly with her.

Amanda did wash off Mez' blood from her hands.

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NOTHING to report the death to the police, nor help Amanda's "friend", nor call an ambulance.



These are the creatures you are defending with all your being.

 

[Vixen]

What gave her away was saying the body was found in the in-built wardrobe. When the cops failed to find the in-built wardrobe, after days of searching, they knew they were onto something. Theft of in-built wardrobes is one of the most serious offences in the Italian lexicon. The search continues ...

Very droll.

 

[acbytesla]

What gave her away was saying the body was found in the in-built wardrobe. When the cops failed to find the in-built wardrobe, after days of searching, they knew they were onto something. Theft of in-built wardrobes is one of the most serious offences in the Italian lexicon. The search continues ...

Sadly, it is clear that Vixen's entire knowledge base of this crime is the fake wiki, the guilter sites and the tabloids. She doesn't seem to have read any of the court documents at all. I've never seen anyone talk so much about a subject and know less. I really think we should create a list of the individual lies she insists on dumping on this forum.

 

[bagels]

Very droll.

The cops were going on about wardrobes and cupboards while a murdered rape victim was resting atop an untested semen stain, because they had already solved the case when they recognized that not even spiderman could climb that wall.

 

[acbytesla]

The cops were going on about wardrobes and cupboards while a murdered rape victim was resting atop an untested semen stain, because they had already solved the case when they recognized that not even spiderman could climb that wall.

That's another potentially great list. All those things that the cops thought that just wasn't so.

 

[Mike1711]

OK, fair enough. So the wardrobe's not inbuilt, as I read somewhere.

Nonetheless, it doesn't change the thrust of the prima facie evidence Amanda bragged of special knowledge of the crime.

Perhaps you can explain why and how Rudy came back to move and undress the body.

Let me help you...

They are really and truly innocent.

Now you can truthfully go back to the guilter sites and prove to them that AK and RS are actually really and truly innocent because "you read it somewhere". That should convince them shouldn't it?

The world according to Vixen.

 

[Bill Williams]

No, say it isn't so! It just can't be! I was sure that the Italian people would rise up and defend the integrity of Mignini and Giiobbi et al. Surely the Italian people understand the importance of protecting their great judicial institution from this attack from within.

This case, post-acquittal, seems to be diverging. But diverging very asymmetrically.

The Italian speakers, save for Machiavelli, are (nearly) all writing publicly about incompetent cops, a manic-media, a rush to judgement in the courts, a set of amnesiac judges...... (note: I say "nearly" as a nod to Grinder who may have scanned the message that far!)

Some English speakers - truly a smaller subset of "the usual suspects", together with Machiavelli - are still talking as if Marasca all-but accused AK and RS of being involved. They speak of "forte sospetto", of Knox washing blood off of her hands at the cottage, etc.

I wish one of those "usual suspects" would explain why Italian bloggers and news outlets - with the one exception Machiavelli found - are nonetheless universal in agreeing what the Marasca report means for the innocence of AK and RS? Can they explain the asymmetry of this?

No? Can't explain it? Well, there we sit.

As Mike1711 observed, now Vixen can report back to those usual suspects that AK and RS are innocent because, "she read it somewhere"; which is her coin of the realm.

 

[Kauffer]

OK, fair enough. So the wardrobe's not inbuilt, as I read somewhere.
Nonetheless, it doesn't change the thrust of the prima facie evidence Amanda bragged of special knowledge of the crime.

Perhaps you can explain why and how Rudy came back to move and undress the body.

Yes, well why actually bother to look at the crime scene photos when you can read an error strewn second hand source which gives you false information about something you could establish for yourself?

Like the text messages...
Like Amanda's phone records
Like Raffaele's shoes
Like....well...like just about everything to do with the case.

You're not a primary source kind of woman, are you?

 

[anglolawyer]

I have to say, I'm reading snippets of the partially-translated motivation elsewhere and there is plenty to soothe the guilter heart. They really do say she was present and this is proved by her accusation against Lumumba (inadmissible yet somehow strangely admissible too ) and that her DNA mixed with Kercher's blood is also probative. I fear this motivation will cast a long shadow. Yet another fail.

 

[Vixen]

Yes, well why actually bother to look at the crime scene photos when you can read an error strewn second hand source which gives you false information about something you could establish for yourself?

Like the text messages...
Like Amanda's phone records
Like Raffaele's shoes
Like....well...like just about everything to do with the case.

You're not a primary source kind of woman, are you?

So you are ecstatic because you scored a trivial wardrobe point.

I note you are carefully evading the official Supreme Court report which states:

Amanda (and most likely Raff) WERE PRESENT AT THE MURDER.

Amanda WASHED MEZ' BLOOD FROM HER HANDS.

Amanda was more interested in COVERING UP FOR RUDY than helping her "friend" (beautiful, funny, English) or notifying the police.

In fact, Amanda and Raff wilfully obstructed the finding of the body.

Come on, face it!

 

[acbytesla]

Yes, well why actually bother to look at the crime scene photos when you can read an error strewn second hand source which gives you false information about something you could establish for yourself?

Like the text messages...
Like Amanda's phone records
Like Raffaele's shoes
Like....well...like just about everything to do with the case.

You're not a primary source kind of woman, are you?

Like the noise ticket
Like Amanda selling her body for drugs
Like that Amanda shouldn't have known that Meredith's body was in the wardrobe closet which it wasn't.
Amanda is a psychopath or was it a sociopath?
That Raffaele's lawyer is a member of the Mafia
The blood negative DNA positive knife used to stab in a murder.

There are many many more but that's a start.

 

[Vixen]

I have to say, I'm reading snippets of the partially-translated motivation elsewhere and there is plenty to soothe the guilter heart. They really do say she was present and this is proved by her accusation against Lumumba (inadmissible yet somehow strangely admissible too ) and that her DNA mixed with Kercher's blood is also probative. I fear this motivation will cast a long shadow. Yet another fail.

Welcome to my world.

 

[Vixen]

Like the noise ticket
Like Amanda selling her body for drugs
Like that Amanda shouldn't have known that Meredith's body was in the wardrobe closet which it wasn't.
Amanda is a psychopath or was it a sociopath?
That Raffaele's lawyer is a member of the Mafia
The blood negative DNA positive knife used to stab in a murder.

There are many many more but that's a start.

Acbytesla, tackle the important issue:

Amanda was there.

Full stop.

 

[Mr Fied]

So you are ecstatic because you scored a trivial wardrobe point.

I note you are carefully evading the official Supreme Court report which states:

Amanda (and most likely Raff) WERE PRESENT AT THE MURDER.

Amanda WASHED MEZ' BLOOD FROM HER HANDS.

Amanda was more interested in COVERING UP FOR RUDY than helping her "friend" (beautiful, funny, English) or notifying the police.

In fact, Amanda and Raff wilfully obstructed the finding of the body.

Come on, face it!

Can you remind us all who was found guilty of the murder and who was found not guilty?

 

[Mike1711]

I have to say, I'm reading snippets of the partially-translated motivation elsewhere and there is plenty to soothe the guilter heart. They really do say she was present and this is proved by her accusation against Lumumba (inadmissible yet somehow strangely admissible too ) and that her DNA mixed with Kercher's blood is also probative. I fear this motivation will cast a long shadow. Yet another fail.

If so the Italian legal system will have managed the impossible feat of scoring an own goal in the opposition's net.

 

[Mr Fied]

Acbytesla, tackle the important issue:

Amanda was there.

Full stop.

Amanda and Raff are innocent. Full stop.

 

[acbytesla]

That Amanda had ccalled or texted Rudy on his burner phone.

And now she adds more. Amanda was interested in covering up for Rudy
And that Amanda a c Raffaele willfully obstructed the finding of Mrredith's body.

Is that before or after they called every one under the sun INCLUDING the Police?

Out of curiosity , is there a logic portion to that Mensa quiz?

Guess not.

 

[acbytesla]

Acbytesla, tackle the important issue:

Amanda was there.

Full stop.

No she wasn't And BTW, the motivation DOESN'T say thst.

 

[Grinder]

It would seem that the initial impressions from Barbie et al. were correct. The court seems to have said that the investigation was so botched that really no answer to what occurred can legally be found. Also the anachronistic judicial system forced the second ISC section to rule to accept the judicial truth of the calunnia and all it implied.

It certainly appears that those PGP that said the verdict wasn't innocent but not guilty were correct. It also appears that they were correct that the calunnia is a judicial fact and they couldn't change it if they wanted.

Bill with all the FOA, IIP and Marriott behind your efforts, you haven't produced the volume of pro verdict/ pro kids editorial pieces I would have thought would be out there by now. Also are there more MSM cites or only the obscure ones.

 

[Kauffer]

So you are ecstatic because you scored a trivial wardrobe point.

I note you are carefully evading the official Supreme Court report which states:

Amanda (and most likely Raff) WERE PRESENT AT THE MURDER.

Amanda WASHED MEZ' BLOOD FROM HER HANDS.

Amanda was more interested in COVERING UP FOR RUDY than helping her "friend" (beautiful, funny, English) or notifying the police.

In fact, Amanda and Raff wilfully obstructed the finding of the body.
Come on, face it!

How did they do this exactly? Romanelli's pal broke down the door - something the postale police were reluctant to do (maybe the postales are Rudy's co conspirators on the grounds that they "wilfully obstructed the finding of the body"). But, what did Amanda and Raffaelle do? Jump in front of the door in an attempt to stop it being broken down? You do make the most awfully silly comments.