Another "Black Activist" Outed As White

[Corsair 115]

So hey, Milo's primary source for this claim? One Joshua Goldberg aka Moon Metropolis? He kinda just got arrested for domestic terrorism.

"Primary" source? I guess the statements of King's own family members and the birth certificate are of no consequence then? Note that CNN also had a report where Don Lemon said he had spoken to some of King's relatives and they had told him King was white. Is CNN now discounted too?

Strange Brew

Goldberg had several online personas: an Islamic radical who was popular in ISIS social media; a white supremacist on hate site Daily Stormer; a feminist on Daily Kos; a radical free-speech advocate on Q&A site Ask.fm, and a sympathizer with GamerGate. Goldberg is also accused of being behind a Times of Israel blog post that called Palestinians “subhuman.”

Heh, funny thing about that article. In this tweet by one Markos Moulitsas, the founder of Daily Kos, he gleefully says he doesn't have to worry about a Kos writer being arrested for terrorism, and how that's a "conservative thing". He then cites the Daily Beast article. It seems Mr. Moulitsas didn't actually bother to read the article since it mentions Goldberg having written pieces for Daily Kos.

Whoops. Nice own goal there, Mr. Moulitsas.

Similarly, some of the anti-GamerGate contingent on Twitter are gleefully trumpeting how Goldberg was a GG member, yet are apparently unaware that Goldberg was also active in the anti-GG side as well. Seems he was an equal-opportunity troll...

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

"Primary" source? I guess the statements of King's own family members and the birth certificate are of no consequence then? Note that CNN also had a report where Don Lemon said he had spoken to some of King's relatives and they had told him King was white. Is CNN now discounted too?..

Not sure what you read or saw but it's been pretty much indicated the guy has a black father that his mother was boffing and King doesn't want to embarrass her or the family.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I guess the problem is that white people who fight for black rights, while pretending or thinking they are black, are race traitors?

 

[Mumbles]

"Primary" source? I guess the statements of King's own family members and the birth certificate are of no consequence then? Note that CNN also had a report where Don Lemon said he had spoken to some of King's relatives and they had told him King was white. Is CNN now discounted too?

Don Lemon's been discounted for a few years now, so it's no wonder that nobody cares what he has to say on the matter.

In any case, the big joke here is that the attack made no sense to begin with. The entire thing seemed to be nothing more than a wild attack based on the laughable idea that he would somehow be rejected if he weren't seen as black. In other words, more projection from conservative sources, eagerly parroted by a not-very-discerning media. The fact that Breitbart.com reporters were, yet again, played for the chumps that they've always been is just icing on the cake.

Heh, funny thing about that article. In this tweet by one Markos Moulitsas, the founder of Daily Kos, he gleefully says he doesn't have to worry about a Kos writer being arrested for terrorism, and how that's a "conservative thing". He then cites the Daily Beast article. It seems Mr. Moulitsas didn't actually bother to read the article since it mentions Goldberg having written pieces for Daily Kos.

As far as I know, writing at dailykos merely means that you maintain a blog there that may or may not be endorsed by Markos, while Breitbart purports to be an actual news site that acts as an answer to the supposed "liberal bias" of other news sites.

 

[kookbreaker]

Similarly, some of the anti-GamerGate contingent on Twitter are gleefully trumpeting how Goldberg was a GG member, yet are apparently unaware that Goldberg was also active in the anti-GG side as well. Seems he was an equal-opportunity troll...

Yeah, something like 500 tweets under the Anti and 23,000 under the pro. Nice leveling.

 

[Corsair 115]

Not sure what you read or saw but it's been pretty much indicated the guy has a black father that his mother was boffing and King doesn't want to embarrass her or the family.

I was responding to a very specific statement:

So hey, Milo's primary source for this claim? One Joshua Goldberg aka Moon Metropolis? He kinda just got arrested for domestic terrorism.

If one bothers to actually read the Yiannopoulos article obliquely referred to, one finds that several sources are cited, including a police report and a birth certificate. A follow-up article mentions the statement by some of King's family members, statements repeated to CNN.

Yeah, something like 500 tweets under the Anti and 23,000 under the pro. Nice leveling.

He posted on behalf of both sides, so the quantity doesn't matter. He was a troll for all seasons.

 

[kookbreaker]

He posted on behalf of both sides, so the quantity doesn't matter. He was a troll for all seasons.

The one attached to his real name was actually the Pro-GG account. The anti seems to have been set up as strawman to promote his main works.

 

[Meed]

Maybe he lied, maybe he was wrong, maybe the investigators are wrong.

If he grew up in a multi-racial household believing he was bi-racial, or even was simply not sure who is father was and thought it was more probably a black man than a white man, I simply can't get worked up about this. It's entirely possible he didn't 'lie', but presented with the evidence now is questioning his own assumptions. Then again, I'm not comfortable with most applications of identity politics anyway, so I'm not the target supporter or detractor.

If he were to get a DNA test that showed his father is black, would that make those accusing him of being white liars? I don't think it would.

Fully agree.

 

[theprestige]

Or actually he does have a black father. : rolleyes :

I was talking about the choices he made with the opportunities he was given. Black father or no, he could have passed for white, with all the privilege that implies. Better education outcomes, better employment outcomes, etc.

Instead, he chose to forsake white privilege, and seek opportunities to do good as a black man. I respect that.

The only thing that still confuses me is this: How does building a public image based on the premise that his father was black help him avoid embarrassing conversations about his mother's love life?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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The only thing that still confuses me is this: How does building a public image based on the premise that his father was black help him avoid embarrassing conversations about his mother's love life?

What a bizarre question.

He was doing what he wanted to do.

He didn't discuss his parents.

Reporters began asking questions.

He refused to answer their questions.

 

[theprestige]

What a bizarre question.

He was doing what he wanted to do.

He didn't discuss his parents.

Any claim of racial ancestry is a claim about parentage.

Reporters began asking questions.

Questions about the parentage he claimed.

He refused to answer their questions.

Because he claimed a parentage that he found comfortable for his public identity as a black activist, but uncomfortable to talk about otherwise. It's not really a squareable circle, in my opinion.

 

[cosmicaug]

By the nature of the political landscape, anyone who is trying to flaunt their minority victim status cred is going to be a leftist.

Anyone bragging about being part Cherokee or saying they're black or expecting kudos for being gay or transgender or whatever, is going to tend to be a lefty. I guess Bruce Jenner is apparently a conservative, but conservatives certainly aren't the ones cheering him on in his recent transformation.

Works as a generalization (which I think is how you intended it) but not as an absolute. See the notable example of Asa Earl Carter^WP.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Any claim of racial ancestry is a claim about parentage.


Questions about the parentage he claimed.


Because he claimed a parentage that he found comfortable for his public identity as a black activist, but uncomfortable to talk about otherwise. It's not really a squareable circle, in my opinion.

What evidence do you have he ever claimed anything or told anyone his father was black until he was challenged with being another fake black guy?

Even if he filled out 'black' on a form question, that's not the same as declaring in a public forum his mother cheated on his father.

 

[Mumbles]

The only thing that still confuses me is this: How does building a public image based on the premise that his father was black help him avoid embarrassing conversations about his mother's love life?

Well, truth is he really never said much about his parents (as opposed to his wife and especially his children, who he talks about all the time). That's what made the attack such a joke in the first place. Quite a few people had assumed that he was white, and didn't care much anyway. A few were annoyed by him, same as they are with Tim Wise. In the end, between the trust people have in him, and the complete lack of trust in a site like Breitbart, most people who think "Black Lives Matter" is not some terrorist movement ended up accepting him as black. In other words, a complete failure.

Yeah, something like 500 tweets under the Anti and 23,000 under the pro. Nice leveling.

A little insight, from someone vaguely familiar with all of this - creating fake accounts posing as some aggrieved minority in order to show how insane the other side is, is also standard trolling. First time I saw it on any wide scale was during #yourslipisshowing , which was when 4chaners created a bunch of fake black feminists in order to show the discord among "the SJWs". Problem was, they understood neither the actual arguments within the movement, nor how to do a basic imitation of a "ebonics". The end result is that the entire plan fell apart almost immediately, and the hashtag was used to let the trolls know that everyone knew exactly what they were doing. But of course, people keep going to the same playbook over and over, never learning much from their mistakes.

From the sounds of things, this Goldberg guy was just another clown following the same playbook, who ended up getting caught in front of the FBI. Whoops.

 

[kookbreaker]

From the sounds of things, this Goldberg guy was just another clown following the same playbook, who ended up getting caught in front of the FBI. Whoops.

From what I have read it seems he was particularly bad at this kind of trolling. His big article as this 'Tanya Cohen' was ludicrous (demanding re-education camps) and was called a bad joke from pretty much the get-go, and the account was outed as fake pretty fast. There were even good guesses that it was Goldberg making an actual straw man (or woman in this case) from as far back as May of this year.