Of course not. If I were, I wouldn't be wasting my time on a message board. But are you saying only the train guys are going to be able to cash in on this? I might just take that bet. Something tells me now that they've been reminded of what real courage looks like, French female "gratitude" might not be so limited.
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Of course not. If I were, I wouldn't be wasting my time on a message board. But are you saying only the train guys are going to be able to cash in on this? I might just take that bet. Something tells me now that they've been reminded of what real courage looks like, French female "gratitude" might not be so limited.
Flo
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Thank you so much. It's good to know that not beeing a direct part of a surprise event that lasted about 40 seconds, in a confined space, makes you a sheeple
^^ this, and I'd gladly buy them all a good meal, so would quite a lot of travellers of several nationalities and their country cousins !
Classy. As demonstrated last winter during and after the Paris terrorist attacks, the French absolutely don't have the slightest idea of what courage looks like, and absolutely need to be reminded by tourists trying to cash in on the bravery of three of their compatriots ...
You'd better get ready to display some real courage, then. I hope it won't be too dangerous.
Now don't start that whole French pouty thing. Unlike most Americans, I recognize the French actually have a grand history of martial bravery. Especially WWI, which somehow gets forgotten after the sequel of WWII.
There is of course no guarantee that your women will throw themselves at me for merely being the same nationality as the guys who ran toward trouble rather among those trying to lock themselves in a closet. If not, it is, how you say, "c'est la vie." But, if your women happen to see in me something that they've been missing, well who am I to refuse them, non?
Well, no guarantees, of course. But I'll try not to run for the closet while other men are wrestling with terrorists.
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Woot. Are you guys for real ? You realize that while the situation is special since such attacks are rare, act of courage are shown in France as they are in many other country ? You just don't hear of them in the news that is all. People stops crime every day. People help others or save other every day. It is just human empathy at play. When I helped a woman out against 3 men back in 1984, I did not expect her to go down on me, neither I felt special. It is just what normal bloodied human emphatically do, normal citizen. Just plainly admit that in the same situation, if you are not frozen in fear you would do the exact same thing.
Saying the other were sheeple, or expecting gratitude. My gott, In hope you are all poe.
I hope so too. This is surely a carefully-constructed caricature of arrogance and bombast.
On this point. We don't know what happened, as has been pointed out. Here's the BBC.
In an interview with Paris Match magazine, Mr Anglade said train staff had entered a private cabin and locked it when they heard gunshots, leaving the passengers alone. "I thought it was the end, that we were going to die, that he was going to kill us all," he said.
However Agnes Ogier, the boss of Thalys, denied Mr Anglade's allegations, saying train staff had "fulfilled their duties".One member of staff found himself under fire and took five or six passengers with him into the baggage car, where he sounded the alarm, she said.
However Agnes Ogier, the boss of Thalys, denied Mr Anglade's allegations, saying train staff had "fulfilled their duties".One member of staff found himself under fire and took five or six passengers with him into the baggage car, where he sounded the alarm, she said.
However, there will be an enquiry into all this, and we should find out.
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Personally, if someone starts firing a machine gun near me I'm heading for the hills as fast as my lilly white livered legs will carry me.
I doubt a train conductor is trained or paid enough to take a bullet for me.
Of course it would be nice to be surrounded by heroic keyboard warriors like casebro, who can disarm gunmen with just a whiff of their testosterone.
I doubt a train conductor is trained or paid enough to take a bullet for me.
Of course it would be nice to be surrounded by heroic keyboard warriors like casebro, who can disarm gunmen with just a whiff of their testosterone.
Gawdzilla Sama
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As I've said before, "at sea you run toward a fire, not away from it." The confines of a moving train would be under the same rules. The GIs knew this. "Go, Spencer!" from the inner guy kicked off the counter-attack. If nobody had "rolled" then the shooter could have just gone from seat to seat, killing everybody he saw and praising Allah all the while.
Flo
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I am a French woman, and I really, really doubt any other French women would appreciate that sort of attitude any better than me (actually, I expect quite a lot would consider slapping any men trying to take advantage of the bravery of others to score points with them)
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1972.
That is very true, but both at sea and in this case, training is required to negate the flight instinct, and it is duly administered, on land and at sea, and to these land-sea hybrids, the Marines. Is it not?
Other responses may also be appropriate, from people out of reach of the gunman, or lacking the strength and training to engage him. Was that the case with the Thalys employees? Did they take some passengers into a secure place and raise the alarm? If it's what they were doing, that might have been the best thing they could in practice have done. I hope we will find out.
Such a thing was done during the supermarket siege that followed the Charlie Hebdo massacre; and the person who did it was not at all denounced as a lily-livered poltroon, but was granted French citizenship in reward for his actions.
Lassana Bathily, a Malian-born and Muslim shop assistant to whom Yohan Cohen had referred as a "friend" in his personal Facebook page, has also been hailed as a hero in the hostage crisis for hiding people from the gunman and assisting police after his escape. During the hostage crisis, Bathily helped hide hostages in a cold storage container in the basement. Bathily then tried to call the police, but the line was busy, so he called his friend, a Frenchman named Dennis Mercier, and Mercier alerted the authorities ... Bathily led fifteen people into the downstairs cold storage room for safety.
Perhaps he was praising Allah all the while, for this deliverance. Who knows?
Gawdzilla Sama
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Yeah, and I don't fault people who don't have the training to react appropriately, not everybody is up to the challenge of being a soldier.
I suspect he'll only get 36 virgins for this FUBAR.
That's the ideal solution to people who hate people of a different religion, a person who hates people of a different skin colour.
ETA: in 1972 Mariane Le Pen would have been a bit young, at least she is less of an embarrassment than her father, who lost a defamation case he brought against Le Monde, when it accused him of war crimes.
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Say what you want about me, but I have run towards the fire, saved a couple lives, faced armed men. I DO get involved in a physical way.
How many people died because the sheeple on the airplanes were afraid of getting cut by box cutters? Except for the one bunch of brave Americans on flight 94(?).
How many times have we heard about bystanders watching a beating, until one person jumps in? There's lots of sheeple in the world. And sometimes a few who get the ball Rolling.
Funny isn't it that since Kuwait I & II, these acts don't happen in America. Where there are more box cutters and AKs available then in all of the European Union. Maybe because the non-sheeple rate is higher too?
How many people died because the sheeple on the airplanes were afraid of getting cut by box cutters? Except for the one bunch of brave Americans on flight 94(?).
How many times have we heard about bystanders watching a beating, until one person jumps in? There's lots of sheeple in the world. And sometimes a few who get the ball Rolling.
Funny isn't it that since Kuwait I & II, these acts don't happen in America. Where there are more box cutters and AKs available then in all of the European Union. Maybe because the non-sheeple rate is higher too?
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Your use of sheeple is misplaced and shameful
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But a very good symptom of what I call "internet strong guy".