Continuation Part 15: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[Desert Fox]

Hellmann's report is as dead as a dodo, extinguished, rescinded, mullahed, massacred, repudiated, reversed, removed, blotted out, cut into pieces, trampled over, ditched, scrubbed, dashed.

Please note.

Toto was an eye witness.

On the reliability of eye witness testimony
http://www.innocenceproject.org/causes-wrongful-conviction/eyewitness-misidentification

Eyewitness misidentification is the greatest contributing factor to wrongful convictions, playing a role in about 75% of convictions overturned through DNA testing nationwide

 

[Vixen]

What is amazing is that you'd speak up for Rudy on that point, while vilifying AK and RS who have no trace of them in the murder room.

That's the trouble with suspect-centric posts like yours.

There are ample traces of Raf and Amanda in the murder room. All "explained" away by paid montebankes claiming any footprints, DNA or blood of Raf and Amanda are to do with bent cops trying to frame them, even though it's the same cops who presumably also "planted" Rudy's DNA, also including Mez' jacket collected 43 days later.

 

[Kauffer]

So you reckon someone of Ivory Coast nationality can simply swan around Europe without needing to have residency rights?

If they legally enter the Schengen area, yes. The border posts have gone between Schengen countries, but not, as LJ has explained, between Schengen and non Schengen countries.

 

[Desert Fox]

Scraped off layers of live skin, possibly down to the capillaries to draw blood. Skin contains moisture and under a murder victim's fingernails, there is liely to be copious amounts of it.

That none were found under Mez' nails further indicates she was forcibly restrained whilst A N Other butchered her.

I picked that case for a very important reason. The defendant was in the hospital while the victim was murdered yet the defendants DNA was still found under the victim's fingernails.

Want to try again and double your money?

 

[Vixen]

You've made this claim numerous times. Where's the citation for it?

Richard Owen of the TIMES.

 

[Vixen]

Ummmm..... could that possibly be because Guede only spent time in Romanelli's room prior to the murder - at which point obviously there was no blood on his shoe soles? Someone breaking and entering through a window, wearing a decent jacket and gloves, would probably leave few or no forensic traces linked to their identity in the room.

And then, after Guede confronted and killed Kercher, is it possible that he spent time exclusively in Kercher's room, the small bathroom, and the hallway through to the kitchen/lounge and out of the front door?

"Possibly"; "probably"; "could"; "should". It's possible Rudy arrived by helicopter, possibly landing on the roof, then could have used a rope ladder to haul himself down.

Judge: Please remove this witness from my court.

 

[Kauffer]

There are ample traces of Raf and Amanda in the murder room. All "explained" away by paid montebankes claiming any footprints, DNA or blood of Raf and Amanda are to do with bent cops trying to frame them, even though it's the same cops who presumably also "planted" Rudy's DNA, also including Mez' jacket collected 43 days later.

Let's be clear. List the physical evidence against Amanda and Raffaele in Kercher's room. Remember, before you do, that the lamp is not on that list. It is not a "trace" - no more than a pen Kercher might have borrowed from a friend, which could gave been found in her room, would be a "trace" of them.

I'm interested to hear about these "ample traces".

 

[RoseMontague]

"Possibly"; "probably"; "could"; "should". It's possibly Rudy arrived by helicopter, possibly landing on the roof, then could have used a rope ladder to haul himself down.

Judge: Please remove this witness from my court.

Do you have any idea how many times Massei used these words in his Motivation report? Too funny. Read his large bag, large knife theory.

 

[RoseMontague]

Richard Owen of the TIMES.

Was he there?

 

[Kauffer]

Richard Owen of the TIMES.

So, Richard Owen reported from information he could only have received from a police source that Raffaele's shoes were tested and found to have been recently bleach cleaned? I see. Please post the report.

Please also post a link to the relevant section of any of the three motivations reports from the trial courts or the Chieffi report where this is mentioned and identify who gave evidence of this at trial.

 

[Vixen]

Dr. Gill is now a "quack"?

Can your posts here get any more ridiculous?

Not saying Dr Gill is a quack. However, it is common practice for defense lawyers to seek out expert witnesses who will say whatever the defense pays them to say.

Think OJ and the glove that "could not possibly fit my client".

 

[js202]

I was under the impression that Guede was carrying a type of emergency hammer, as can be found on most trains and buses. They often look like this:

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They are specifically designed to break tempered glass, as used in bus and train windows, and they can also be more effective than ordinary hammers in breaking double-glazed windows. Maybe Guede got hold of (i.e. stole) it from the train he took to Milan

Very interesting. I've never seen one like that; thanks for posting it.

 

[acbytesla]

I probably made ten times what you made selling new and used electronic equipment and frankly you seem unable to understand anything about the reality of low level thieves and how they sell their goods. We supplied one of the largest video game companies with used laser disc players back in the day - we made the most money after Pioneer stopped making them and we located used ones.

Discussions of communications and making buying decisions show you have no concept. While legit biz likes to document no so much with the black market. They don't measure IRR or ROI. One similarity is that sellers give credit to move their merch.

Rudi would use the "hey man you want a cheap laptop I need to sell to pay my rent" style of selling. The overcoat full of watches style not an electronic marketing campaign.

The fact that some people use computers for ten years proves what? Let me tell you. Nothing.

If it proves anything, is that old computers have value to some people. Windows 7 machines usually sell at a premium over the 8 system.

I don't care how much money you made in your business. You DON'T understand this business. You're like the billionaire who buys a football team and thinks that just because he knows real estate that somehow means he knows more than a coach or GM who have done nothing else but run a football team.

You read that Rudy has a bunch of computers in his apartment and somehow...voila, he's a fence specializing in laptops. Never mind Rudy doesn't have a damn phone. Never mind that Rudy's 22 years old. Never mind he doesn't have Internet access. Never mind that the kid was just fired from his high tech job "landscaping".

You compare him to the guy selling watches in his overcoat. Out of curiosity, how many times in your life have you ever had someone try and sell you a watch that way? How about a laptop. It's never happened to me. Although as an IT broker I'd get calls like that.

Any reports of Rudy trying to sell laptops to the students ever? Nope.

Your deductive logic on this is failing you miserably. But never mind, you have money so you must know everything.

 

[Vixen]

I picked that case for a very important reason. The defendant was in the hospital while the victim was murdered yet the defendants DNA was still found under the victim's fingernails.

Want to try again and double your money?

DNA does not prove murder. It establishes a fact that XYZ Dna was found, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Vixen]

So, Richard Owen reported from information he could only have received from a police source that Raffaele's shoes were tested and found to have been recently bleach cleaned? I see. Please post the report.

Please also post a link to the relevant section of any of the three motivations reports from the trial courts or the Chieffi report where this is mentioned and identify who gave evidence of this at trial.

This has already been done and I am not going to repeat it.

 

[Kauffer]

This has already been done and I am not going to repeat it.

No it hasn't. The reason why it hasn't is because you cannot do it.

 

[RoseMontague]

You read that Rudy has a bunch of computers in his apartment and somehow...voila, he's a fence specializing in laptops. Never mind Rudy doesn't have a damn phone. Never mind that Rudy's 22 years old. Never mind he doesn't have Internet access. Never mind that the kid was just fired from his high tech job "landscaping".

You compare him to the guy selling watches in his overcoat. Out of curiosity, how many times in your life have you ever had someone try and sell you a watch that way? How about a laptop. It's never happened to me. Although as an IT broker I'd get calls like that.

Any reports of Rudy trying to sell laptops to the students ever? Nope.

I don't see it as proven he had a bunch of laptops lying around. Is it mentioned in any of his police reports? We know his apartment was searched and they tested several items found. Was there any mention of laptops or computers? Was it just one friend that mentioned this? Was it in a newspaper article or in court testimony?

 

[acbytesla]

A stone is a pebble. Have you seen the size of the theatrical break-in tool? As large as a man's head.

LMAO. You just keep making stuff up.

A stone is 14 pounds. Hardly a pebble.

 

[acbytesla]

I don't see it as proven he had a bunch of laptops lying around. Is it mentioned in any of his police reports? We know his apartment was searched and they tested several items found. Was there any mention of laptops or computers? Was it just one friend that mentioned this? Was it in a newspaper article or in court testimony?

Not to my knowledge. The Spanish girls said he he had many computers but no Internet. They thought that was strange. I have no doubt that Rudy sold a few laptops that he stole. But I don't see him as a buyer of computers. And there isn't a shred of evidence that would lead someone to that conclusion.

But somehow according to Grinder, I'm the one who's clueless.

 

[Chris_Halkides]

A cross examination for Richard Owen

Was he there?

Did the defense get to cross examine him?