Moderated Continuation: Latest Bigfoot "evidence" Part Two

Bigfoot broke the tree, Raccoon Falls from the tree, Bigfoot eats the raccoon.

Cervelo, it IS a Bigfoot sound either way.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
If you recall, after the stick break I heard but you didn't. You took off back down the hill behind us. I followed and briefly startled you (unintentional). We were trying to identify some animal sounds (that we both heard). We both agreed on small mammal but not an exact match for species. I have since determined the sound was indeed a Raccoon in distress. Please verify for yourself. So likely, a young raccoon had fallen from a tree. (the stick break)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kYlpsvMFGw


I do not intend to argue with you again as there is nothing to be gained. I just thought you'd like to know the actual identity of the sounds we both heard after I heard the stick break.
Chris B.
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Oh my Chris another great example of your imagination getting the best of you.

You heard something behind us, and your reaction to it seemed to be concern/fear....your focus at that time was to get out of the woods before dark....you brought this up numerous times.

The only reason I doubled back (since i heard nothing) was just to see your reaction to me confronting the "unknown" and I applaud you for following me....startled nah...shocked that you followed me down the hill you struggled so hard to climb..yes!

I do applaude you for taking the time to learn more about the sounds you'll hear in the woods if you chose to spend more time learning about the great outdoors.

I would caution you again about letting your imagination take hold, you tend to pontificate with declarative, definitive statements that make it obvious you've spent little time observing wildlife.

The raccoon statement is a great example....what makes you believe a raccoon (if that's what it was) had to fall to feel the need to cry out. Is there not another possibility?

Just as with the stick break....I find it inconceivable that you could hear anything over your own breathing. Your stressed out physically from the hike, mentally stressed anticipating being out after dark, and having returned to the site of your supposed bigfoot sighting.

You clearly demonstrated your imagination had gotten the best of you when you had to stop to indentify a stump.

Then you spin a family outing on a splendid fall evening into some sort of ghostbusters expedition with high tech gear that you conclude exists based on the containers they are carrying. The bizzare statement that they lied to you about their final destination is beyond comprehension.

It's not an argument Chris is just two interpetations of the same events that are so at odds it's astounding.

I do appreciate you taking the time with me and overall had a great time.
But your behavior that day and subsequently here on this fourm only confirms for me my suspicion that most bigfoot proponents have very little outdoor experinence beyond their "Bigfoot experience".

You make extrordinary claims but can't back up a single one with anything beyond pictures of trees and what can only be described as a highly manipulate image....all the while claiming to have hi-def footage....okey-dokey!

Stick with the raccoon study that's most likley what you saw that day a family of raccoons and your imagination and obvious lack of outdoor experience made them into what you wanted to see ;)
 
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Cervelo,

Do you think there are any chances Chris actually tried to pull a "Finding Bigfoot" over you?

"OMG!"
"Uhm?"
"What was that?"
"What?"
"Look! Over there!"
"Where?"
"Its gone now!"
"You think it was a saquatch?"
"Dunno, but it dam sure was very squatchy..."
"WOW!"
 
Correa Neto said:
Cervelo,

Do you think there are any chances Chris actually tried to pull a "Finding Bigfoot" over you?

"OMG!"
"Uhm?"
"What was that?"
"What?"
"Look! Over there!"
"Where?"
"Its gone now!"
"You think it was a saquatch?"
"Dunno, but it dam sure was very squatchy..."
"WOW!"
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Not really anything like that...other than the silliness I've already described. Which could be described as a presumptive behavior and indication of limited outdoor experience.

I guess once I realized where we were going that day I kinda discounted the whole premise. Highly accessible area with tremendous foot traffic and auto traffic.

As I've stated previously my next ding-ding moment was when Chris was going to pack large on this "hike" and had brought a weapon for me.

And of course his concern about being out after dark...at that point I was just along for the ride. It just confirmed eveything I'd ever thought about most bigfoot proponents.

If he had been out with one of his footer buddies I'm sure it would have been something along those lines.
 
And by the way, if it hasn't become clear, it's clear to me that the location is Mammoth Cave National Park. It's the only area matching the size and visitor numbers, plus "the river" that Chris keeps talking about is obviously Green River.

I haven't been there in a few years, but I have been there a lot, including taking the Green River ferry and taking boat tours on the Green River.

If there is even one bigfoot anywhere in Mammoth Cave National Park, it has learned how to hide behind an ever-shifting screen of fallen leaves and acorns. That park is so thoroughly hiked and explored and studied, the entire idea is ludicrous.

Take a look at the map.
 
Cervelo said:
Oh my Chris another great example of your imagination getting the best of you.

You heard something behind us, and your reaction to it seemed to be concern/fear....your focus at that time was to get out of the woods before dark....you brought this up numerous times.

The only reason I doubled back (since i heard nothing) was just to see your reaction to me confronting the "unknown" and I applaud you for following me....startled nah...shocked that you followed me down the hill you struggled so hard to climb..yes!

I do applaude you for taking the time to learn more about the sounds you'll hear in the woods if you chose to spend more time learning about the great outdoors.

I would caution you again about letting your imagination take hold, you tend to pontificate with declarative, definitive statements that make it obvious you've spent little time observing wildlife.

The raccoon statement is a great example....what makes you believe a raccoon (if that's what it was) had to fall to feel the need to cry out. Is there not another possibility?

Just as with the stick break....I find it inconceivable that you could hear anything over your own breathing. Your stressed out physically from the hike, mentally stressed anticipating being out after dark, and having returned to the site of your supposed bigfoot sighting.

You clearly demonstrated your imagination had gotten the best of you when you had to stop to indentify a stump.

Then you spin a family outing on a splendid fall evening into some sort of ghostbusters expedition with high tech gear that you conclude exists based on the containers they are carrying. The bizzare statement that they lied to you about their final destination is beyond comprehension.

It's not an argument Chris is just two interpetations of the same events that are so at odds it's astounding.

I do appreciate you taking the time with me and overall had a great time.
But your behavior that day and subsequently here on this fourm only confirms for me my suspicion that most bigfoot proponents have very little outdoor experinence beyond their "Bigfoot experience".

You make extrordinary claims but can't back up a single one with anything beyond pictures of trees and what can only be described as a highly manipulate image....all the while claiming to have hi-def footage....okey-dokey!

Stick with the raccoon study that's most likley what you saw that day a family of raccoons and your imagination and obvious lack of outdoor experience made them into what you wanted to see ;)
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Here's the stabilized hillside video film taken from the exact location I took you to. Look at the big guy's back and shoulder while it plays. Is it my imagination or is that arm and hand movement on his shoulder? from another Bigfoot behind the big guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDZIi_7zEvw

Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Here's the stabilized hillside video film taken from the exact location I took you to. Look at the big guy's back and shoulder while it plays. Is it my imagination or is that arm and hand movement on his shoulder? from another Bigfoot behind the big guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDZIi_7zEvw

Chris B.
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It can be anything you want it to be Chris...that's the problem you claim to have hi-def vid of Bigfoot and pics of footprints, but this is all you submit for scrutiny:confused:

Trees and shrubberies....like I suggesting earlier, spend more time outdoors, identifiy common known animals, like you did with the deer!

Get to know whats really out there and you won't be subject to your imagination running wild on you.....like in this case and the stump that frightened you on our hike.

The alternative is you could man up and present some of your supposed "good evidence" or admit you don't have any other than your trees, stumps and shrubberies oh my... combined with nothing more than your fertile imagination.
 
Nope, none at all, and if I had to call it an animal I'd say it looks most like a side view of a porcupine in a tree.
 
Cervelo said:
It can be anything you want it to be Chris...that's the problem you claim to have hi-def vid of Bigfoot and pics of footprints, but this is all you submit for scrutiny:confused:

Trees and shrubberies....like I suggesting earlier, spend more time outdoors, identifiy common known animals, like you did with the deer!

Get to know whats really out there and you won't be subject to your imagination running wild on you.....like in this case and the stump that frightened you on our hike.

The alternative is you could man up and present some of your supposed "good evidence" or admit you don't have any other than your trees, stumps and shrubberies oh my... combined with nothing more than your fertile imagination.
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dmaker said:
I don't even see anything that could be described as movement.
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Thanks for the honesty expressed in your opinions. So you still do not see movement, well then logically nobody else can either then, unless its their imagination.

I would like to point out the video was made early in the year prior to leaves appearing on "trees" as evidenced by the other trees and ground cover that appear without them. I didn't notice any shrubs planted in the area.

Thanks again for your honesty expressed in your opinions of the stabilized film. Chris B.
 
That video was your proof? There is mothing there, and part of your "bigfoot" seems to be markings on a tree in the foreground.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Here's the stabilized hillside video film taken from the exact location I took you to. Look at the big guy's back and shoulder while it plays. Is it my imagination or is that arm and hand movement on his shoulder? from another Bigfoot behind the big guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDZIi_7zEvw

Chris B.
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There is absolutely nothing unusual there, outside of your own imagination. Even the pareidoilia effect is pretty weak. I find it amazing that you somehow construe this to be a "family group" of anything, really, even of tree stumps. You really are seeing what you want to see, which isn't at all there.
 
Susheel said:
That video was your proof? There is mothing there, and part of your "bigfoot" seems to be markings on a tree in the foreground.
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I agree. I look at that and see trees shrubs and not much else. Not even a bee. I would call it pareidolia, but it seems to be something beyond that. How anyone in their right mind could extract "movement" then "second BF touching" then "juvenile BF appearing" is FUBAR. Recall the whole "rods" thing from years ago? Compare that resolution to the resolution Chris provides at least a decade later. If Chris is to be believed, camera resolution has gotten worse over the intervening years. The evidence for "rods" is actually better and we know the explanation for those.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Is it my imagination or is that arm and hand movement on his shoulder? from another Bigfoot behind the big guy?
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It's your imagination. There's no motion in the video, and probably no animals, although as always the quality is very poor.

One question I'd ask of any videographers on this thread - throughout all the panning and zooming in and out, I noticed no relative motion between objects in the foreground and background, almost as though this was a video taken of a still image. Is that likely an artifact of stabilization?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Is it my imagination or is that arm and hand movement on his shoulder? from another Bigfoot behind the big guy?


Chris B.
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I vote with those who say it is your imagination, as is the very assignment of this dark blotch as a Bigfoot. Other than the camera movement/zoom or artifacts caused by the attempts of the camera to digitally stabilize and focus the image, I would also say that there is no movement whatsoever in the video.
 
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LTC8K6 said:
It's amazing how Chris can produce a stabilized cropped video like that, but can't show us the HD video from 15 feet away because his family is in it...
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Aren't there was of cropping, blurring, or masking any images of Chris's family to make identification of them impossible? News programs do this all the time. I think a lot of the amateur video software allows this too.
 
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