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Continuation Part 14: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Strozzi said:
Today's Washington Post newspaper has an article stating that all DNA testing at the Washington DC crime lab is suspended after accreditation authorities revoked the lab's recognition due to flaws in DNA testing.

You may see the article at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...a43d9a-ec24-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html

Does Italy have a national laboratory accreditation authority that certifies laboratories? If so, have they examined Stefanoni's lab?
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AIUI Vecchiotti & Conti's lab failed, too.
 
carbonjam72 said:
I saw the same silly twitter posts. He also claims a writing partner, a woman currently doing "research" in Italy.

Perhaps they are sharing these twitter accounts, or are together "Ms Vixen"?

I will say though, that if 'Vixen' is really this pair of sick amoral parasites, I would feel both vindicated, and disappointed.

Vixen's slipping into one discredited Guilter PR claim after another lessens my credulity in anything being said, including claims as to gender or other identity.

It's a sad strange freak show on display, with all the contestants vying for attention. It brings to mind Ergon's "faith healing" services for families with autistic kids willing to write post-dated checks. One wonders where the police are in all this. Why aren't these frauds being arrested and prosecuted?

btw, I thought with Mensa, you only had to be in the top 2% of IQ, and it was only 140? Is that wrong? In any event, I'll go on record as saying I do not believe 'Vixen" is a member of Mensa, now or ever.
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That's correct, 2%. 148 Wechler, 132 Stanford Binet, 128 Ravens.

These are just the raw scores. What's important is being at +2.52 (check?) standard deviations above the mean, which is 0 sds, in the Gaussian normal distribution bell curve.
 
carbonjam72 said:
I agree Vixen is doing a 'half-CoulsdonUK", in the sense of being coy coupled with appeals to authority, but I don't think Vixen is CoulsdonUK.

Coulsdon kept a lid on it for what, 7years? Only at the very end did he come out to face the board, got overwhelmed in minutes before retreating, until the missus busted him for keyboarding into the we hours, or such was the claim.

Vixen is way too prolific out of the gate, and very quickly slid form polite and chirpy, into discredited falsehoods. With an indifference to facts, logic or discussion.

Sort of brings to mind a recent movie I quite enjoyed, called "The Imitation Game", on the story of Alan Turing, and the British effort to break the German code machine "enigma".

One of Turing's tests for intelligence was, can you tell if the person you're speaking with is a real person, or a machine? Can the conversation partner, imitate a person? Are they real?

I don't see intelligence here, but I do see narcissism, and an inability to see how others see you. I see a transgressive personality on display, one who's found a welcoming environment in which to express their peculiar pathology.

Sorry to say all this, I'm always rooting for the psychos to be normal, but I'll admit when I'm wrong, or been duped.
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Are you saying Alan Turing was a psycho, rather than a mathematical genius?
 
Hi Dan O.,
Thanks for reminding me a few days ago,
that 1 of those probable seminal fluid stains was found between Miss Kercher's splayed open legs
and underneath her naked genitalia.

Not on her right side as she laid, deceased,
as I had written recently.


This link, below, that you gave shows these location well,
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Professor-Vinci-Pillow-Analysis-Italian.pdf
and it also shows the fresh treads of Rudy Guede's Nike OutBreak 2 sneakers,
which possibly looked like this:
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leaving shoe imprint rings in this probable seminal fluid,
on her left side, which occurred when Mez was raped...

More pix:
https://www.google.com/search?q=rud...a=X&ei=fDpBVfeRF4G_ggS4yoH4Dg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
 
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Vixen said:
Let's start with the question, why do you think the police showed so much interest in the two bottles of ACE bleach under Raf's sink?
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Especially considering the full moon lunacy on display in your post 4821, you have a good deal more questions to answer than ask.
 
Strozzi said:
Curatolo, you were used. R.I.P.

Antonio Curatolo was taken into police custody when he became useful to Mignini almost a year after the murder when Coratolo under prompting suddenly recollected having seen Knox and Soloecito loitering for 2 hours at the park on a cold night while Holloween revelers boarded buses to the discos. By taking him into custudy, the police prevented Curatolo from talking to journalists and others and revealing how he was cultivated to remember something. It also prevented others from observing his actual cognitive state. Curatolo, while being held in polce custody, testified against Knox and Sollecito in the Masei trial. He was subsequently convicted on an old drug charge and died in Capanne Prison in 2012. He was 55 at the time of his death.
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So the defense did not cross examine him. Why is that, then?
 
Vixen said:
IIRC It was in Nencini, after having fully assessed the defense argument it was before, and dismissing it, based on evidence, including cctv, wherein the carabinieri are captured arriving circa 13.26, thus resetting the times for all other times.
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No, what Nencini did was accept the prosecution's alternative argument (made at the very end of the Massei trial) that it was possible the CCTV timestamp was only 4 minutes slow after the defense had disproven the possibility the timestamp was 10 minutes fast like the prosecution had (initially) claimed and had shown that everything lines up perfectly if the CCTV timestamp was 10-12 minutes slow. Incidentally this also is corroborated on the other end because it shows Meredith returning to the cottage at 9:01-9:03 which is exactly the time she would have returned going by the TV show, the walking distance and Purton's testimony.

The only reason to embrace the possibility of the CCTV clock being 4 minutes slow is to claim that Raffaele lied about calling the Carabinieri before the Postales got there, which is silly because no matter what time it was Raffaele and Amanda had already raised the alarm by calling Filomena and had he actually called the Carabinieri after the Postales had gotten there he wouldn't have to lie--innocent or guilty--he could have just said the Postales weren't there about the murder and weren't doing anything about it so he needed to summon real police to the scene and not just guys who were there to deliver cellphones and wouldn't take action--like break down the door.

Massei already heard the modified prosecution argument and dismissed it with a parenthetical aside in his motivations. Hellmann heard it as well and addressed it here. There's no reason to accord Nencini with any authority at all in the matter, and all he did was go with a possibility which flies in the face of all the other indications and logic of when the Postales arrived relative to the CCTV camera and the phone calls.
 
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Vixen said:
That line from Christopher Reeve in Superman gets a huge laugh from UK audiences.
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Presumably that's the way you also feel about the Eagle Squadron pilots who helped defend London during the blitzkrieg. Perhaps the way you also feel about the young Americans at Normandy Beach who saved England's ass from Hitler, in general.

There is a remarkable consistency with regard to anti-Americanism on the part of the faulty reasoners who find themselves on the wrong side of this case.
 
Vixen said:
AIUI Vecchiotti & Conti's lab failed, too.
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Wrong again, Vixen. Their lab did not fail. It seems your presence here is simply to spread falsehood.

The point being, that C&V did not do any new testing. Stefanoni is partly responsible for that, destroying most of the evidence. C&V evaluated Stefanoni's work, and found it substandard, wrong, and perhaps even criminal.

You do know that the Supreme Court of Italy has exonerated AK and RS? I'm just checking....

ETA - Cite!?
 
Comodi and Conti

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That's even worse...?
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Vixen,

My understanding is that Comodi asked whether the FP's gloves were responsible for the contamination of the clasp. And Conti replied that anything is possible. This is the correct reply for two reasons. One, Comodi apparently labors under the misconception that an exact route of contamination must be proved (a far better standard is to exclude evidence that was collected in obviously improper ways). Comodi was trying to limit the number of ways that contamination could have occurred without having a logical or factual basis for doing so. Two, when evidence is in fact collected improperly then there are many more possibilities for contamination. IIRC examination gloves tested positive for DNA in one forensic study. Not for no reason did Peter Gill refer to the actions of the PF as high risk.

However, you also misattributed the quote. Doesn't that suggest something?
 
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AngloLawyer said:
One thing I would like to see, whether from Vixen or any PGP, is not only an acknowledgement of error but also an indication of the affect on their overall assessment of the case of the correction. They usually run away, change the subject or engage in some other evasion. When I learned the bleach receipts story was just a lie, I realised the case included lies and that it was being made by liars. That put me on the alert and raised the bar for other prosecution claims (virtually all of which have proved to be lies too). I shall be interested to see whether the high-powered brain of a 99.99% person like Vixen is proof against the human failings which distort thinking and inhibit honesty.
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Vixen said:
Let's start with the question, why do you think the police showed so much interest in the two bottles of ACE bleach under Raf's sink?
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You called it, anglolawyer.
 
RWVBWL said:
It would not even surprise me, Grinder,
if Rudy went back to the scene of 1 of his crimes.

Heck,
he did so at The Lawyers Office, right?
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Well sort of, he went there after being caught with their stuff to assure them he had bought it in order to refence it.

I just can't see him going to the nursery and hanging out at a place where he and someone had stolen thousands of Euros.

Wonder if the MLE lifted any prints from the big heist.
 
anglolawyer said:
Have we seen the last of Vixen? If so, I blame carbo for repeatedly and tediously demanding examples of Hellman's logic fails, as if Vixen's standing as a ninety nine point nine nine nine percenter (hope I didn't lose count there) obliged her to deal with such small-minded pettifoggery. She reminded me of Jackie. So long, Vixen.
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Aw, bless, pet, I missed you, too. ;)
 
Chris_Halkides said:
Maybe they stored the camera in a sealed box with extraction buffer.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I had two more comments about the putative semen stains. One is that there were two of them close together. Even if we buy into Stefanoni's ridiculous argument about preserving the shoe tread, that doesn't explain why the other one could not be tested. Two is that the argument that semen and DNA cannot be dated (so why test) is a type of special pleading. It could be as easily said of any putative semen stain in any real or alleged crime.
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That's what Professor Peter Green said, in the BBC 4 radio from last year (producer Ruth Alexander). Perhaps he thought he was refuting a prosecution argument.
 
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