Moderated Continuation: Latest Bigfoot "evidence" Part Two

Ah, but you only assume it was imagination because you were not there. What you really mean to say is you hope and pray it was only my imagination because the alternative is too incredible to comprehend.

My son is no longer taken into any Bigfoot areas, he was at this one by accident as I had no idea the creatures were there beforehand.

My wife was present with me on another trek when I filmed the "Eating Video" so perhaps it runs in the family? Perhaps we and everyone else that witnessed them here are "disturbed". But again, maybe we're not.



After viewing the pic and video at home, the wife agreed I did the best thing for the situation. She started going out with me after this and had her own sightings of real, living, eating, walking, Bigfoot creatures of differing sizes. She's particularly fond of the toddler sized creature and has a nice pic of him. Her support of me is 100%. She knows why I trek and what I'm after and the end goal. You should be so lucky.
Chris B.

I didn't ask if your wife was present, I asked if she also claims to see what you claim to see.
 
Ignore my last post please. I did not see where you had already made my question moot. But since this thread is under mod approval, I could not easily edit it to correct my error.
 
My son is no longer taken into any Bigfoot areas

this has been really bothering me. I'm guessing the idea is to keep him safe from something with no record of violence towards humans (or even existence, but that's a whole different thing). Considering the supposed range of bigfoot now seems to be any and everywhere five or more trees are located, this effectively removes a huge swath of nature for your son to enjoy. Then, considering real threats, you'd have to also put any area with bears, cats, snakes, etc off limits too. And in the end, nature becomes some terrifying place and it need not be.


All that said, he's your son and I can't tell you what to do. It's just been bothering me and I wanted to get it off my chest.
 
this has been really bothering me. I'm guessing the idea is to keep him safe from something with no record of violence towards humans (or even existence, but that's a whole different thing). Considering the supposed range of bigfoot now seems to be any and everywhere five or more trees are located, this effectively removes a huge swath of nature for your son to enjoy. Then, considering real threats, you'd have to also put any area with bears, cats, snakes, etc off limits too. And in the end, nature becomes some terrifying place and it need not be.


All that said, he's your son and I can't tell you what to do. It's just been bothering me and I wanted to get it off my chest.

This very mentality permeates the footer world and is one of the true tragedies or biggest lie spread by the footers.
The great outdoors is one of the safest places one can go...the most dangerous thing most people do is get in a car to drive to a trailhead.
Based on my time spent with Chris, his outdoor experience is limited to his imagination. He's obviously nothing but a computer footer playing games IMO.
 
Ignore my last post please. I did not see where you had already made my question moot. But since this thread is under mod approval, I could not easily edit it to correct my error.
I considered the delay factor, no prob.
this has been really bothering me. I'm guessing the idea is to keep him safe from something with no record of violence towards humans (or even existence, but that's a whole different thing). Considering the supposed range of bigfoot now seems to be any and everywhere five or more trees are located, this effectively removes a huge swath of nature for your son to enjoy. Then, considering real threats, you'd have to also put any area with bears, cats, snakes, etc off limits too. And in the end, nature becomes some terrifying place and it need not be.


All that said, he's your son and I can't tell you what to do. It's just been bothering me and I wanted to get it off my chest.
It's not productive to take a 10 year old with me on a Bigfoot quest. I realize there are relatively few reports of violent Bigfoot and I don't think they are violent either, but I don't feel the need to place my son in a confrontation with an unknown outcome.

My wife and son were of particular interest to the Bigfoot that was watching them. It may have been simply curiosity but who knows what's in the mind of a wild animal?

We get out and have many fishing trips and likely spend more time outdoors than most. He is definitely not being "caged" if that's your concern.

Just give your son a camera and he'll be perfectly safe.
He has one and makes pretty good nature videos considering his age.

Given the lack of known bigfoot scat, hair, DNA, nests, caves, treehuts, tools, clothing, migration routes, etc., just how do you determine what areas are bigfoot areas?

Isn't it scary thinking bigfoot might be anywhere?

RayG

They're not just anywhere Ray. If they were, we would have a specimen on file by now. It takes alot of research and investigation to find a "good" area to look for them. And even in these areas once found, their presence is not permanent year round. If they had a particular permanent living location, the search would be over fairly easy once that location was discovered.
Chris B.
 
A walk in the park has escalated from a trek to a quest now. This hyperbole is so ridiculous.
 
They're not just anywhere Ray. If they were, we would have a specimen on file by now. It takes alot of research and investigation to find a "good" area to look for them. And even in these areas once found, their presence is not permanent year round. If they had a particular permanent living location, the search would be over fairly easy once that location was discovered.
Chris B.

Actually, seasonal migration would make footie more likely to run into, and afoul of human beings. Bison, the passenger pigeon, the canvasback duck, and many more were all pushed to the brink of extinction (and beyond) due to this ease of patterning. In 15,000 years, human beings have discovered no such patterns, no such migration routes, for ole foo. The only sensible conclusion is that there is no such animal to pattern.
 
They're not just anywhere Ray. If they were, we would have a specimen on file by now. It takes alot of research and investigation to find a "good" area to look for them. And even in these areas once found, their presence is not permanent year round. If they had a particular permanent living location, the search would be over fairly easy once that location was discovered.
Chris B.

How convenient.
 
Ah, but you only assume it was imagination because you were not there. What you really mean to say is you hope and pray it was only my imagination because the alternative is too incredible to comprehend.

My son is no longer taken into any Bigfoot areas, he was at this one by accident as I had no idea the creatures were there beforehand.

My wife was present with me on another trek when I filmed the "Eating Video" so perhaps it runs in the family? Perhaps we and everyone else that witnessed them here are "disturbed". But again, maybe we're not.



After viewing the pic and video at home, the wife agreed I did the best thing for the situation. She started going out with me after this and had her own sightings of real, living, eating, walking, Bigfoot creatures of differing sizes. She's particularly fond of the toddler sized creature and has a nice pic of him. Her support of me is 100%. She knows why I trek and what I'm after and the end goal. You should be so lucky.
Chris B.


I've seen your imagination at work firsthand.

You imagine that there's a legit reason to be heavily armed on a half day hike in a heavily used area on a pedestrian trail/road.

You imagine that by wearing the same jacket you wore the day of your alleged sighting...that Bigfoot will recognize you.

You imagine to hear things following us that I didn't.

You imagine a tree stump for something other than a tree stump on a trail you supposedly frequent often. But for some reason your extrordinary skills of recall failed you...hmmm that's odd.

You imagine traits (ghostbusters) for a family group out for a stroll on a pedestrian trail, that they are obviously familar with. Then accuse them of lying to you about their destination.

Maybe the fact that you were stressed out about being out after dark got the best of you....but I certainly got to watch your imagination run amok under circumstances that could only be described by most people as a great half day hike on a beautiful late fall day.

This all took place at a site that gets over 2million visitors a year. The trail we hiked gets routine organized groups of people almost to the exact site of Chris's encounter. These groups are engaging in a highly unique activity that would draw attention to them.

The opportunities offered for outdoor activity by this area to a father and son experience is astounding.

So Chris are you saying you will never take your son into this location that gets 2million visitors a year because you feel there's a realistic threat to your son?
 
They're not just anywhere Ray.

I know. They're everywhere.

Alaska, Alabama, Alberta, Arkansas, British Columbia, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Manitoba, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Brunswick, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Nova Scotia, Ohio, Oklahoma, Ontario, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Quebec, Rhode Island, Saskatchewan, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming, and the Yukon.

Given the lack of evidence to date, it appears that your little secretive piece of land in Kentucky isn't as special as you think it is.

RayG
 
They're everywhere and nowhere baby
That's where they are
Nowhere in the wooded forest
Though you look near and far

Searching across the country
And getting nowt
Every photograph is blurry
And they never come out

And it's hi-ho, bigfoot's nowhere
There's really no such thing now, baby
All of the doubters are unfair
But I can't face the truth
Cause I'm a bigfoot sleuth

Bigfeet are in my dreams now baby
They're waving at me
I can't get any pics of them
Because it's always a tree

Patty's gonna fool you some day
He's covered in fur
So better get your video camera
You know it's going to blur

And it's hi-ho, bigfoot's nowhere
There's really no such thing now, baby
All of the doubters are unfair
But I can't face the truth
Cause I'm a bigfoot sleuth
 
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I've seen your imagination at work firsthand.

You imagine that there's a legit reason to be heavily armed on a half day hike in a heavily used area on a pedestrian trail/road.
And I've seen you pick up a turkey feather and claim it was from a red tail hawk.

There is a legit reason to be armed no matter where you are.

You imagine that by wearing the same jacket you wore the day of your alleged sighting...that Bigfoot will recognize you.
Based on primate memory studies, I think they can likely retain very well.


You imagine to hear things following us that I didn't.
I heard a stick break. Since you did not hear it, does that mean it didn't happen? Nope, it means you did not hear it.
You imagine a tree stump for something other than a tree stump on a trail you supposedly frequent often. But for some reason your extrordinary skills of recall failed you...hmmm that's odd.
This is an outright lie. First, I never claimed the stump was anything other than a stump. Second, I have already told you I only go into this area on average 3 times per season. Particularly on the anniversary of the "Bigfoot Hillside Family Group video."

You imagine traits (ghostbusters) for a family group out for a stroll on a pedestrian trail, that they are obviously familar with. Then accuse them of lying to you about their destination.
They absolutely were ghost hunters. I live here remember?
Maybe the fact that you were stressed out about being out after dark got the best of you....but I certainly got to watch your imagination run amok under circumstances that could only be described by most people as a great half day hike on a beautiful late fall day.
This is another lie. You know I had no interest in anything along the way. Even when you pointed to downed or bent trees, they were of no interest to me whatsoever. There were only two points of interest, the video location and the end location of the hike where we turned around. Particularly finding footprints to indicate a presence in the area was my main concern.

This all took place at a site that gets over 2million visitors a year. The trail we hiked gets routine organized groups of people almost to the exact site of Chris's encounter. These groups are engaging in a highly unique activity that would draw attention to them.
I don't see that many folks in the hollow we went thru.

The opportunities offered for outdoor activity by this area to a father and son experience is astounding.

So Chris are you saying you will never take your son into this location that gets 2million visitors a year because you feel there's a realistic threat to your son?

As before, there is no need to take my 10 year old with me when looking for Bigfoot or evidence. I do have older sons and they enjoy it. Maybe in a few years my youngest can go too, but not at 10.

That particular site you keep referring to is a very small part of one of my research areas. I took you there because it was opening day of Deer season here when you arrived and it served to show you the location of the video made from 2010. Your safety was the #1 factor though.

I understand what you want to do here. You want everyone to think I only search for Bigfoot in the nearest park with millions of people looking over my shoulder, but this is a misrepresentation of the facts. You did not get to see any of the areas on private property, and you never will. Again, the reason I took you to that area was specifically for your safety because it was opening day of Deer season.
Chris B.
 
And I've seen you pick up a turkey feather and claim it was from a red tail hawk.

There is a legit reason to be armed no matter where you are.


Based on primate memory studies, I think they can likely retain very well.



I heard a stick break. Since you did not hear it, does that mean it didn't happen? Nope, it means you did not hear it.

This is an outright lie. First, I never claimed the stump was anything other than a stump. Second, I have already told you I only go into this area on average 3 times per season. Particularly on the anniversary of the "Bigfoot Hillside Family Group video."


They absolutely were ghost hunters. I live here remember?

This is another lie. You know I had no interest in anything along the way. Even when you pointed to downed or bent trees, they were of no interest to me whatsoever. There were only two points of interest, the video location and the end location of the hike where we turned around. Particularly finding footprints to indicate a presence in the area was my main concern.


I don't see that many folks in the hollow we went thru.



As before, there is no need to take my 10 year old with me when looking for Bigfoot or evidence. I do have older sons and they enjoy it. Maybe in a few years my youngest can go too, but not at 10.

That particular site you keep referring to is a very small part of one of my research areas. I took you there because it was opening day of Deer season here when you arrived and it served to show you the location of the video made from 2010. Your safety was the #1 factor though.

I understand what you want to do here. You want everyone to think I only search for Bigfoot in the nearest park with millions of people looking over my shoulder, but this is a misrepresentation of the facts. You did not get to see any of the areas on private property, and you never will. Again, the reason I took you to that area was specifically for your safety because it was opening day of Deer season.
Chris B.

As I've said before Chris I often ask people questions I know the answers to ;)

You actually brought a weapon for me on this hike. That's was laughable considering the location and how pedestrian this location was. Not to mention alittle disturbing since we had just meet.

You had great concern about bring out after dark...you brought it up twice, you felt the need to be heavily armed in a pretty benign location..maybe you imagined a stick break...remember your the one that's seen something with zero evidence that it exist...sorta like you know an imaginary creature.

You stopped dead in your tracks to ID a stump....a stump your extrordinary skills of recollection most certainly should have known was there....so again your imagination would have appeared to gotten the best of you, along with the stress of being out after dark.

So your claming you knew they family we meet on the way out or are just imagining you did as you imagined they were lying to you?

This site is 52,000 acres and boarders untold acers of local countryside. The site has 2 million documented visitors a year. It has a unique geology that brings routine organized excursions to Chris's location of his supposed sighting.

Also the location has speices that are endemic to this location meaning they have been found no where else in the world...hence just a little scrutiny...just a little. There's nothing at this location undiscovered over 1lbs.

I'm not going to stoop to your level and call you a liar..but I will stand on my previous assesment. I don't believe you have any real outdoor experience and don't think you have seen anything other than common well known animals.

Hence your imagination has clearly mislead you to think your experiencing something you think is real but isn't.
 
I was sitting in my local airport with a Kermode bear right in front of me. There are only about 500 of these black bears in the world located in one area of BC only. Yet here is one right in front of me. Bigfoot is apparently much bigger and is all over North America and yet there is no evidence for them. Rare animals can be found and put on display but Bigfoot is everywhere and leaves no evidence.
 

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Chris, not too long ago, as a photographic challenge to my kids, I proposed capture a squirrel with all four feet off the ground and multishot is verbotten. They came through in a few hours.

Why is it that footers seem unable to do what children can do?
 
As I've said before Chris I often ask people questions I know the answers to ;)

You actually brought a weapon for me on this hike. That's was laughable considering the location and how pedestrian this location was. Not to mention alittle disturbing since we had just meet.

You had great concern about bring out after dark...you brought it up twice, you felt the need to be heavily armed in a pretty benign location..maybe you imagined a stick break...remember your the one that's seen something with zero evidence that it exist...sorta like you know an imaginary creature.

You stopped dead in your tracks to ID a stump....a stump your extrordinary skills of recollection most certainly should have known was there....so again your imagination would have appeared to gotten the best of you, along with the stress of being out after dark.

So your claming you knew they family we meet on the way out or are just imagining you did as you imagined they were lying to you?

This site is 52,000 acres and boarders untold acers of local countryside. The site has 2 million documented visitors a year. It has a unique geology that brings routine organized excursions to Chris's location of his supposed sighting.

Also the location has speices that are endemic to this location meaning they have been found no where else in the world...hence just a little scrutiny...just a little. There's nothing at this location undiscovered over 1lbs.

I'm not going to stoop to your level and call you a liar..but I will stand on my previous assesment. I don't believe you have any real outdoor experience and don't think you have seen anything other than common well known animals.

Hence your imagination has clearly mislead you to think your experiencing something you think is real but isn't.

If you recall, after the stick break I heard but you didn't. You took off back down the hill behind us. I followed and briefly startled you (unintentional). We were trying to identify some animal sounds (that we both heard). We both agreed on small mammal but not an exact match for species. I have since determined the sound was indeed a Raccoon in distress. Please verify for yourself. So likely, a young raccoon had fallen from a tree. (the stick break)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kYlpsvMFGw


I do not intend to argue with you again as there is nothing to be gained. I just thought you'd like to know the actual identity of the sounds we both heard after I heard the stick break.
Chris B.
 

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