None of those details you have stated, which is proof you don't have them. We have coolers and baby strollers entered into evidence. Not ghost hunting equipment.
I think this one insulted me personally because we do just that: we drive with the kids to see the spectacular scenery and catch the moose feeding or moving at sundown because that is the best time to catch them - it is just as the tourists are instructed.
It is your taking of this normal behavior and casting it as stupid that bothers me. You are someone who almost never gets out, telling my family that lives full time in the woods that we are stupid for what we do. In the fall we jump in the camper around sundown and drive out to our favorite gravel bar on the river, passing by some beautiful mountains and the lakes the moose feed in at sundown. After dark we have a big fire, roast weanies and marshmallows. We aren't afraid of the dark like you are, and there's a whole set of animals you get to enjoy. A lot of owls here.
There is a long time between sundown and dark too, and by that I mean "black" as you have stated. Were that true then everyone would have been using flahshlights and lanterns - none of which our other witness indicated.
As you must have missed it, from my previous post to Cervelo:
"We seem to have two different opinions as to the intentions of the "family group" we met on our way out. It's ok to disagree, let's look at both sides here and apply some critical thinking. You saw a cooler, so you say they were on a picnic, then a cookout. I can understand the relationship with coolers and picnics and cookouts, so that's not altogether an invalid theory. But when we add in more factors like time of day, it was after sunset and getting dark. Why would someone take their family on a picnic at night? No grill either. So highly unlikely they had planned a picnic or cookout.
Alright, you saw a cooler, let's review what I saw and think about it for a moment. I saw 2 adult males, 3 adult females,and 1 infant in a stroller. The adult female (mid 20's) pushing the stroller had a small camera case on her left wrist very similar to my little Sony camcorder case, so I suspect she may have been carrying a Sony camcorder or similar in it. The stroller was a hard wheeled type and I felt especially bad for the infant having that very bumpy ride.
The other two adult females were not carrying cases though one had what looked like either a one strap backpack or a jacket slung over her shoulder and she appeared to have been in her teens. The other, late 20's to early 30's.
One of the adult males (late teens to early 20's) was carrying nothing that I could see, the other (late 20's early 30's) was pushing a solid wheeled type
two wheel dolly white in color. Strapped on that dolly was a blue cooler with a white lid. I suspect it was an igloo brand. I did not see the brand name
on it that night because on the top of the cooler was a large black/dark colored case about half the thickness of the cooler, on top of that case was a smaller case that resembled an older camcorder case. The two cases on top would have covered the "igloo" name but it was likely an igloo brand IMO as I have the exact same cooler. Also the adult male pushing the dolly had his left hand on the top case to hold it in place.
I also asked them if they were going where we went. The response was "Yes". I responded "It's a long way." After we walked further I told you I had asked them that to see if they would lie to me, and I told you they did.
They were almost at their intended destination when we met. The lie confirmed their true destination IMO. Think about it, could they have taken
that stroller and dolly over and under those downed trees we encountered and down and back up that hill we trekked? No way.
So, by my reasoning they were ghost hunters. They were misleading as to their true destination. The black cases contained some sort of equipment, possibly sound and or video equipment. The time of day they were there (night time) seals the deal IMO. The cooler more than likely contained beer and ice for their Saturday night ghost hunt adventure. Oh and there was no reason for me to be concerned about those folks. Remember the large guy
pushing the dolly? He was carrying a black/dark handled side arm, most likely a semiauto. Glocks are popular here, but by guessing by their appearance, I'd think it was likely a Taurus. So there was really no need for you to feel embarressed for carrying. It's common here.
I know what you're thinking whether you admit it or not as you are now likely remembering more details. "How can someone remember that much in detail?"
If you really knew me, you'd know how. I'm not trying to make you angry. All I ask is for you to think about what you actually saw a bit then give my
opinion some thought.
About memory, I noticed the pic of the guy in the black jacket you posted and the comments in the post. That was funny but kinda misleading. When we
first met I was wearing an American Eagle OD green jacket similar in looks to a field jacket and camo hiking boots. I changed into the ratty black leather jacket when we arrived on site and I told you why then, because that's the jacket I was wearing when I had my previous sighting there.
I have no idea where you came up with the tennis shoes comment, not that it matters as I do wear tennis shoes almost daily, but not that day and not
when I'm trekking. The inaccuracies are uncalled for if intentional, if unintentional I can somewhat understand. If you want to poke fun at me please be accurate when doing so is all I ask."
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Now ABP, at no time did I call or insinuate you or your family are "stupid". I suggest though you do not have the details required to make a better judgement call than me about what those people here were up to. I was there, I know the area, I know the people, I know the site and activities that happen there and why. You lack that information and I cannot provide you more detailed information as it would further risk the integrity of the area by narrowing it down to exacting location details.
Chris B.