Likely vice president running mates 2016

For VP, Kasich or Rubio for the Republicans, for Ohio and Florida respectively.

No idea for Dem VP.
 
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Brainster said:
There's a simpler reason why Bush would not pick Rubio: they're from the same state. There's an odd quirk in the electoral college that prohibits the electors from any state from voting for both the president and vice president from that same state. That is, if the Bush/Rubio ticket won Florida, the electors from Florida could not vote for both men; they could only vote for one or the other. This could have the oddball effect of creating a situation where the president was from one party and the VP from another. In fact, in 2000 Dick Cheney had to hurriedly re-establish residency in Wyoming in order to avoid exactly that situation.
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And you think this would actually be an issue? It wasn't with Bush II why would it be with Bush III? Pretty easy to just pick a different house as their residence for one of them.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And you think this would actually be an issue? It wasn't with Bush II why would it be with Bush III? Pretty easy to just pick a different house as their residence for one of them.
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In Cheney's case, he was at least from Wyoming, and already had a home there. I think if M. Rubio did it, it would raise a bit more a stink. Though he has already bowed out of a Senate reelection bid, so that won't present a problem if he wants to switch his residency to, say, Virginia.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And you think this would actually be an issue? It wasn't with Bush II why would it be with Bush III? Pretty easy to just pick a different house as their residence for one of them.
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A little harder for the sitting Senator from the state, though. Jeb's voting base is split between the family holdings (TX) and Florida, but he was the governor of FL and his following there is very firm. I don't see any way he goes and establishes his residence as TX without a lot of blowback. And Jeb's the one with the logical choice. Rubio is from Florida. Period. Since Cuba's not a state yet and claiming DC as his residency wouldn't help. He's from Florida for all intents and purposes.

ETA: Ninja'd by HGC on the opening paragraph.

The more important reason, though, that Jeb isn't picking Rubio is that Rubio brings nothing to the table. If Rubio's not running, Jeb gets the Cuban vote. Period. Spanish speaking? Jeb's Spanish speaking, and among the Latino community considered one of them. Rubio brings nothing to a Bush ticket.

Bush would be looking to find some inroads into "swing" states. He's going to be his own inroads into Florida. He'll sink or swim there on his own popularity, organization and campaign. There's no way he takes NY or CA. But he would be wise to target OH and PA and MI. I think he'll be looking for a midwestern conservative, but not a poster boy for the uber conservative wing. And necrophilia being the second most popular pastime (next to barbecue) among the Bushies.... Rob Portman comes to mind. He worked for Dubya, the banks and insurance companies (read: BIG DONORS) love him, as do the voters in Ohio. And he's not a lot of "flash", so isn't going to hog the spotlight or create issues that the main candidate has to deal with.
 
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sylvan8798 said:
How about Susana Martinez? She's from Texas, is Governor of New Mexico, a woman, hispanic, moderate (?). I haven't heard that she's some sort of Palinesque nutcase.
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I've been waiting for her to rise up for years but the GoP threw the last two fights by putting chumps in the ring. I think '16 is her chance. I truely hope she takes it.
 
Agreed on Martinez. She's a decent bet for Jeb's VP choice.
 
As to Hillary's selection? I think she's going to be limited by people who think like variations of Wayne LaPierre. She's a demographic ground-breaker. She will not likely choose a black, another woman, nor even probably a Latino as a running mate. Just "too much minority" for many voters. (Biased? Bigoted? I'm not saying. I just think she and her handlers will be aware of this.)

The Dems are going to be in a big fight for Florida, this time. They can win without FL but to do so need to sweep the midwest and take VA and NC. So she will look to OH and PA and MI, just like the GOP, but she'll also be looking towards the south. Can Bubba cover that much support in those states? Or does she pick a good old boy and rely on herself, Bubba's IOUs from Obama and the Dem organization to pick up the midwest?
 
Has anyone mentioned Cory Booker? Yes, he's black, but aren't we over that? He's young and ambitious. Maybe a little too much pushback and she'd rather have a milktoast who won't challenge her on anything?
 
Foolmewunz said:
As to Hillary's selection? I think she's going to be limited by people who think like variations of Wayne LaPierre. She's a demographic ground-breaker. She will not likely choose a black, another woman, nor even probably a Latino as a running mate. Just "too much minority" for many voters. (Biased? Bigoted? I'm not saying. I just think she and her handlers will be aware of this.)

The Dems are going to be in a big fight for Florida, this time.
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Charlie Crist it is, then. :boxedin:
 
sylvan8798 said:
Has anyone mentioned Cory Booker? Yes, he's black, but aren't we over that? He's young and ambitious. Maybe a little too much pushback and she'd rather have a milktoast who won't challenge her on anything?
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He's got baggage. Hillary already has enough of her own.
 
Ziggurat said:
Charlie Crist it is, then. :boxedin:
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Poor ol' Charlie. He's not even being seriously mentioned in the possible candidates to run for Rubio's Senate seat. He's made a point of saying he's not running ("No, really. Not even if there's a draft movement. Hello? Hello? You still there? How come the line's dead?).... And the entire party said, "Cool. Thanks Charlie!"
 
sylvan8798 said:
Has anyone mentioned Cory Booker? Yes, he's black, but aren't we over that? He's young and ambitious. Maybe a little too much pushback and she'd rather have a milktoast who won't challenge her on anything?
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Uh, VP candidates don't disagree with the boss. That's one of the basic job requirements. One doesn't have to be a milquetoast to get with that program. It's one of the basic things that Sarah Palin couldn't understand, and another reason she was so unfit to be McCain's running mate.

By the way, what do you think Booker would disagree with Clinton on?
 
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hgc said:
Uh, VP candidates don't disagree with the boss. That's one of the basic job requirements. One doesn't have to be a milquetoast to get with that program. It's one of the basic things that Sarah Palin couldn't understand, and another reason she was so unfit to be McCain's running mate.

By the way, what do you think Booker would disagree with Clinton on?
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She was basically unfit in all areas.
 
Me. For both parties.

It's the ideal job. You don't have to do anything except show up at the Senate when you fell like it. Decent pay for a job with no actual functions. Free travel.

The only downside is if the Pres croaks. In which case, I just appoint someone decent as Veep and resign.
 
hgc said:
Uh, VP candidates don't disagree with the boss. That's one of the basic job requirements. One doesn't have to be a milquetoast to get with that program. It's one of the basic things that Sarah Palin couldn't understand, and another reason she was so unfit to be McCain's running mate.

By the way, what do you think Booker would disagree with Clinton on?
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Reagan and Bush hated each other. Their primary was very contentious. Bush is credited with coining the phrase "Voodoo Economics" to dexribe Reagan's Trickle Down plan.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
I've been waiting for her to rise up for years but the GoP threw the last two fights by putting chumps in the ring. I think '16 is her chance. I truely hope she takes it.
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Pros: Female. Hispanic. Relatively Moderate. She says all the talking points but doesn't seem too concerned with enforcing ideological purity. Former Democrat. Relatively young (55)

Cons: Catholic (the Evangelicals hate that). Relatively Moderate. New Mexico was dead last in job growth during her tenure. Former Democrat.

She would have a hell of a time getting through the primaries. I think if she could get the nomination without having to succumb to the Tea Party, she'd give Hillary a fight. That jobs thing though is a big problem.
 
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