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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Personal choice I suppose. Alot of footers carry bear spray I can respect that.
Mama bear would be shot dead if that was the situation and I'd sleep like a baby that night. Chris B.
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Yeah, those damn bears. They need to learn that yes they can live anywhere they want as long as they're not where you're Bigfooting cause they gonna die if they are. And your baby is gonna sleep...no wait, you don't have a baby but you await sleeping like one after killing some pesky bears. Hey everyone has their...kinks.

carlitos said:
Embellishments to your story about alleged knowledge of bird watchers. That's a shock.
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:D Say it isn't so champ!

The Shrike said:
I don't know what you're talking about Chris, but at least now we have something in common.

There are 449 checklists entered for Edmonson County, Kentucky. (Remember when I said "hundreds"?) The attached map shows some of them (some). Note that at many of these points, there are multiple checklists tied to that location...
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See there on that map there's an area up by Highway 88 not too far from Interstate 65 that looks pretty un-birder-ed and thus unexplored since Columbus. That's where Bigfoot is. Sorry!

rockinkt said:
Home range? I thought you were on a migratory route?
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He meant your range at home. A stove as some might call it. And Bigfoot does migrate, from its range home range to its home range home along a migratory route of ranges and homes. And ranges. What's your problem mister?!

The Shrike said:
...What about bigfoot? Is he ever found near a trail or a road? According to leading bigfoot expert Jeff Meldrum, bigfoots sometimes wallow in mudbaths along roadsides, neatly dipping their testicles in the cooling clay whilst munching on Washington State's finest red delicious apples. Seems to me that one would be far more likely to chance upon a bigfoot while quietly making one's way down a wooded trail (hey, that's what birders do!) than by trying to outstealth the wood ninja by sneaking up on him through the dry leaves and moving branches...
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:D You're such a romantic.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I can't say as to the accuracy of the reports, just that they occur.
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There you go: everything anyone needs to know about bigfoot sightings.

If bigfoot were anything more than a joke/hoax/fantasy, a follow-up from a sighting would at least occassionally lead to some objectively verifiable evidence... but that has never happened. And at this point it's a good bet that it never will.
 
River said:
How about any real evidence of this HUGE creature you keep alleging to be out there?

Uh, right.

Excuses, and lame stories. That's about it. = the state of bigfootery today.
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Why does bigfootery always equate to Monty Python? Like their cheese sketch modified for bigfoot. :D

(Skeptic walks in the door)

Skeptic: Good Morning.

ChrisBFRPKY: Good morning, Sir.

Skeptic: Ah, thank you, my good man.

ChrisBFRPKY: What can I do for you, Sir?

Skeptic: I'd like to see some bigfoot evidence please.

ChrisBFRPKY: (lustily) Certainly, sir. What would you like?

Skeptic: Well, eh, how about a few footprints?

ChrisBFRPKY: You mean footprints good enough to be used in a court case? I'm afraid I'm fresh out of those kind of footprints, sir.

Skeptic: Oh, never mind, how are you on photos?

ChrisBFRPKY: Photos are so 70's. These days everyone takes videos with their cell phones. Some day I'll learn to do that.

Skeptic: Tish tish. No matter. Well, some bigfoot saliva, if you please.

ChrisBFRPKY: Ah! I have *something*, though I can't show it to you until I'm certain it's bigfoot saliva. I may send it for DNA testing if I can get another sample.

Skeptic: Not my lucky day, is it? Aah, vocalizations?

ChrisBFRPKY: Sorry sir, I don't have a reliable recording device.

Skeptic: Hairs?

ChrisBFRPKY: Pffftttt!! Unless I plucked one directly from a squatch, why would I have hairs?

Skeptic: Of course. Reliable witness reports?

ChrisBFRPKY: One of the oldest on record is attributed to Daniel Boone himself. Boone not only witnessed a bigfoot, he shot it.

Skeptic: Of course he did. Fingerprints?

ChrisBFRPKY: (pause) No.

Skeptic: Scat, perhaps?

ChrisBFRPKY: Ah! I have scat, yessir.

Skeptic: (suprised) You do! Excellent.

ChrisBFRPKY: Oooooooooohhh........! (pause)

Skeptic: What now?

ChrisBFRPKY: The cat's eaten it.

Skeptic: (pause) Has he.

ChrisBFRPKY: She, sir.

Skeptic: You...do *have* some evidence, don't you?

ChrisBFRPKY: (brightly) Of course, sir. I've got--

Skeptic: No no... don't tell me. I'm keen to guess.

ChrisBFRPKY: Fair enough.

Skeptic: Bigfoot nests?

ChrisBFRPKY: No, I don't walk far enough into the woods to find them. You have to be out of the woods by dark you know.

Skeptic: (pause) Aah, how about some DNA results?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes, yes, I do have that spit around here somewhere, but like I said, I'll wait to get it tested when I get another sample. To be honest, I don't have much faith in DNA testing.

Skeptic: Not much fa--- it's the single most supportive evidence in the world!

ChrisBFRPKY: Not 'round here, sir.

Skeptic: (slight pause) and what IS the most supportive evidence 'round hyah?

ChrisBFRPKY: My videos. Took one from only 15 feet away. Afraid I can't share that though, it might compromise my research area.

Skeptic: I see.

Owner: Oh, yes, I've yet to have a skeptic explain away the bigfoot I clearly see in the video. Why you can see movement and everything.

Skeptic: Uuh...movement?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes sir. Plain as day.

Skeptic: Right. Okay. Have you got any bigfoot bones?

ChrisBFRPKY: I'll have a look, sir........nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.

Skeptic: You're not much of a bigfoot researcher, are you?

ChrisBFRPKY: Finest in the district!

Skeptic: (annoyed) Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.

ChrisBFRPKY: Well, did I mention I've seen a family of bigfoot?

Skeptic: I don't believe you did....

ChrisBFRPKY: (brightly) Say, you haven't asked me about definitive proof, sir.

Skeptic: Would it be worth it?

ChrisBFRPKY: Could be.... I live on a bigfoot migratory path you know.

Skeptic: (slowly) Have you got any definitive proof?

ChrisBFRPKY: No.

Skeptic: Figures. Predictable, really I suppose. It was an act of purest optimism to have posed the question in the first place. Tell me:

ChrisBFRPKY: Yessir?

Skeptic: (deliberately) Have you in fact got any evidence here at all?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes, sir.

Skeptic: Really?

(pause)

ChrisBFRPKY: No. Not really, sir.

Skeptic: You haven't.

ChrisBFRPKY: Nosir. Not a scrap. I was deliberately BLAARGing you, sir.

Skeptic: Of that I have no doubt.

RayG
 
RayG said:
Why does bigfootery always equate to Monty Python? Like their cheese sketch modified for bigfoot. :D

(Skeptic walks in the door)

Skeptic: Good Morning.

ChrisBFRPKY: Good morning, Sir.

Skeptic: Ah, thank you, my good man.

ChrisBFRPKY: What can I do for you, Sir?

Skeptic: I'd like to see some bigfoot evidence please.

ChrisBFRPKY: (lustily) Certainly, sir. What would you like?

Skeptic: Well, eh, how about a few footprints?

ChrisBFRPKY: You mean footprints good enough to be used in a court case? I'm afraid I'm fresh out of those kind of footprints, sir.

Skeptic: Oh, never mind, how are you on photos?

ChrisBFRPKY: Photos are so 70's. These days everyone takes videos with their cell phones. Some day I'll learn to do that.

Skeptic: Tish tish. No matter. Well, some bigfoot saliva, if you please.

ChrisBFRPKY: Ah! I have *something*, though I can't show it to you until I'm certain it's bigfoot saliva. I may send it for DNA testing if I can get another sample.

Skeptic: Not my lucky day, is it? Aah, vocalizations?

ChrisBFRPKY: Sorry sir, I don't have a reliable recording device.

Skeptic: Hairs?

ChrisBFRPKY: Pffftttt!! Unless I plucked one directly from a squatch, why would I have hairs?

Skeptic: Of course. Reliable witness reports?

ChrisBFRPKY: One of the oldest on record is attributed to Daniel Boone himself. Boone not only witnessed a bigfoot, he shot it.

Skeptic: Of course he did. Fingerprints?

ChrisBFRPKY: (pause) No.

Skeptic: Scat, perhaps?

ChrisBFRPKY: Ah! I have scat, yessir.

Skeptic: (suprised) You do! Excellent.

ChrisBFRPKY: Oooooooooohhh........! (pause)

Skeptic: What now?

ChrisBFRPKY: The cat's eaten it.

Skeptic: (pause) Has he.

ChrisBFRPKY: She, sir.

Skeptic: You...do *have* some evidence, don't you?

ChrisBFRPKY: (brightly) Of course, sir. I've got--

Skeptic: No no... don't tell me. I'm keen to guess.

ChrisBFRPKY: Fair enough.

Skeptic: Bigfoot nests?

ChrisBFRPKY: No, I don't walk far enough into the woods to find them. You have to be out of the woods by dark you know.

Skeptic: (pause) Aah, how about some DNA results?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes, yes, I do have that spit around here somewhere, but like I said, I'll wait to get it tested when I get another sample. To be honest, I don't have much faith in DNA testing.

Skeptic: Not much fa--- it's the single most supportive evidence in the world!

ChrisBFRPKY: Not 'round here, sir.

Skeptic: (slight pause) and what IS the most supportive evidence 'round hyah?

ChrisBFRPKY: My videos. Took one from only 15 feet away. Afraid I can't share that though, it might compromise my research area.

Skeptic: I see.

Owner: Oh, yes, I've yet to have a skeptic explain away the bigfoot I clearly see in the video. Why you can see movement and everything.

Skeptic: Uuh...movement?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes sir. Plain as day.

Skeptic: Right. Okay. Have you got any bigfoot bones?

ChrisBFRPKY: I'll have a look, sir........nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.

Skeptic: You're not much of a bigfoot researcher, are you?

ChrisBFRPKY: Finest in the district!

Skeptic: (annoyed) Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.

ChrisBFRPKY: Well, did I mention I've seen a family of bigfoot?

Skeptic: I don't believe you did....

ChrisBFRPKY: (brightly) Say, you haven't asked me about definitive proof, sir.

Skeptic: Would it be worth it?

ChrisBFRPKY: Could be.... I live on a bigfoot migratory path you know.

Skeptic: (slowly) Have you got any definitive proof?

ChrisBFRPKY: No.

Skeptic: Figures. Predictable, really I suppose. It was an act of purest optimism to have posed the question in the first place. Tell me:

ChrisBFRPKY: Yessir?

Skeptic: (deliberately) Have you in fact got any evidence here at all?

ChrisBFRPKY: Yes, sir.

Skeptic: Really?

(pause)

ChrisBFRPKY: No. Not really, sir.

Skeptic: You haven't.

ChrisBFRPKY: Nosir. Not a scrap. I was deliberately BLAARGing you, sir.

Skeptic: Of that I have no doubt.

RayG
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Now that's funny. Chris B.
 
The Shrike said:
Right, you were ignorant of this.


Most of them will be recent: "eBirding" has grown tremendously in popularity over the last decade. People can upload historical data though, and many have. I have most of my checklists from my analog field notebooks updated now, and those date back to the early 1980s. In Edmonson Co., I saw one checklist from the mid-1970s. This illustrates that people have been heavily birding the vicinity of your study area for decades.
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I wasn't aware the compiled pic you presented was listed on the site. Instead, I selected reports from Edmonson county and clicked on the maps in the individual reports. My findings there support my position.

You still seem unaware that the marked areas on your map pic are roads.....
I'll not use "ignorant" to describe your unawareness though.
The Shrike said:
Even if that were the case, you are only one guy in the woods and you claim to have encountered bigfoots on multiple occasions.
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I claim to have encountered the Bigfoot family group once there.
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It's not the case however. Of course there are local people who submit multiple checklists each year, but it looks like several dozen at least are represented in checklists for Edmonson County.
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Several dozen folks counting back a few years for the total. My friend seems to claim the top position recently.

The Shrike said:
I don't dispute that, but some of them do. Some of them (not represented in the eBird data) specifically avoid doing surveys from the trails and roads to avoid potential road bias in their data. So? We've got people in your area, on trails and off trails. And?
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Yes, I've already conceded that some birders may tend to get off the beaten path. I've not met any in that area though.

The Shrike said:
What about bigfoot? Is he ever found near a trail or a road? According to leading bigfoot expert Jeff Meldrum, bigfoots sometimes wallow in mudbaths along roadsides, neatly dipping their testicles in the cooling clay whilst munching on Washington State's finest red delicious apples. Seems to me that one would be far more likely to chance upon a bigfoot while quietly making one's way down a wooded trail (hey, that's what birders do!) than by trying to outstealth the wood ninja by sneaking up on him through the dry leaves and moving branches.
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They've been reported near roads here in the past. Personally, I think if these reports were accurate it was by chance and would not be productive to drive around the countryside hoping for an chance roadside encounter.

Testicle dipping in cooling clay would be a new one on me. I've not heard that before.

Absolutely, birders would be excellent folks to look for Bigfoot.

The Shrike said:
The overall point here Chris is that your personal observations of people in your study area is a tiny and highly biased perspective of the number of people who actually go there, the frequency with which the area is visited, and the actions of the people while there.
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Certainly I'm only one person. However, I'm here and you're not. You judge by info you have available online, I judge by what I see here and also by what I see on the map pic of birder reports you presented. And, you're mistaken. That's all there is to it.

The Shrike said:
Birders are generally a high-skilled demographic specifically there to find unusual wildlife and in possession of optics that make them wonderfully suited to providing evidence of said wildlife.
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Again, I agree. Birders would make excellent Bigfooters. You just have to get the majority to where the Bigfoots frequent more often. Chris B.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Here is another track from the video Chris removed from his website:


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Just to be clear, the site invites downloading the videos.
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That was a pic taken by a member that week of what he thought may be a "possible print" It's not, but it was included on the video so everyone could see what was collected that week. As I had previously told you the video was linked by mistake, it was for internal use only by members. So you may not understand every item you see on it. Chris B.
 
Garrette said:
Yep. Whether Chris is sincere, deluded, hoaxing, lying, or BLAARGing, he has presented a perfect example of Magic Bigfoot, simultaneously everywhere yet nowhere, highly interactive yet undetectable.
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Incorrect assertion. Chris B.
 
Resume said:
Do the hunters and anglers who make bigfoot reports venture off the trail? I ask this because like most things bigfoot, there's a contradictory meme in which it's claimed that folks these days (including hunters) do not venture far off the beaten path; yet we're told of the many reports made by these very same individuals . . . that don't venture off the beaten path. However, I'd agree with the idea that it is not necessary; a 9-ft bipedal ape wandering around an exurban wooded tract would be rather obvious. And of course if it were so, we'd be having a totally different conversation.

It isn't so, however.
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Fishermen seem to have submitted the highest number of sightings. However there are some hunter reports as having a sighting from their deer stands. And of course the occasional raccoon hunter at night. The latter seems to be a dying art here locally. Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
...I agree. Birders would make excellent Bigfooters. You just have to get the majority to where the Bigfoots frequent more often. Chris B.
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I'm not sure there's any amount of BLAARGing you could do to convince some of the folks here what you're up to, but to the initiated this is a perfect example of your BLAARGing. Your seeming "thickness" at understanding the concept that birders go everywhere and not just on "marked trails" isn't for lack of gray matter since you couldn't be that stupid and still spell properly. No, it can only be a game and the rules that govern your role in that game say never concede a point to a skeptic no matter its reasonableness. Which is exactly what you've done since you got here. I can count you conceding logical/reasonable "points" only once or twice in your entire time here. Please supply links if that's too low.

You do realize that in this particular instance you're insanely arguing that since the (documented) birders in A SINGLE COUNTY in Kentucky didn't proclaim being in every acre of the county (at the same time?) that they've (by definition!) missed all chance of finding Bigfoot because they didn't explore every acre, only 90% of them.

"Whoops, you guys missed this 2 acres of bottomland here. Sorry that's where Bigfoot was. And I'll never see it any differently!"

Better luck next time, birders!
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Fishermen seem to have submitted the highest number of sightings. However there are some hunter reports as having a sighting from their deer stands. And of course the occasional raccoon hunter at night. The latter seems to be a dying art here locally. Chris B.
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That wasn't my question, but you know that. Do these people venture off the beaten path? Is that necessary for sightings?
 
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