Merged Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark?

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...supercluster stuff...
so I have not received a response, and there is no answer!

Up pops the EternalLie from Pixie of key yet again!
Distances in an expanding universe get larger.
That means that galaxies get further apart.
That means that clusters of galaxies get further apart.
That means that superclusters of galaxies get further apart.

 

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Same with finnish...

So Pixie of key can also write his EternalLie in Finnish !

 

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What happening for expanding space when it expanding?...

More EternalLie, EternalGibberish, EternalFantasy and EternalIgnorance from Pixie of key .

The answer does not mention superclusters !
The answer states what is expanding in an expanding spacetime - the distance between points in the universe !

It looks like this Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos cannot even understand science translated to Finnish !

 

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I get the answer to that superclusters are not moving away from another, but still, later superclusters are far away from the one from another, and it is not the answer to my question.

I may have worked out what this supercluster idiocy may be.
I linked to Metric expansion of space

The metric expansion of space is the increase of the distance between two distant parts of the universe with time. It is an intrinsic expansion whereby the scale of space itself changes. This is different from other examples of expansions and explosions in that, as far as observations can ascertain, it is a property of the entirety of the universe rather than a phenomenon that can be contained and observed from the outside.

The article has 2 instances of the word supercluster. So Pixie of key may be obsessing about these words and ignoring the meaning of metric expansion of space.

 

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this is what big bang people say!
"Cosmological redshift results from the expansion of space itself and not from the motion of an individual body."

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/c/cosmological+redshift

Wrong, Pixie of key: The Man pointed out out that it is a self-contradictory nonsense that galaxy superclusters are both expanding and not expanding.

You reply with a link to a definition of cosmological redshift that does not mention superclusters !

We know and measure that stars and galaxies have Doppler red and blue shifts. The Doppler blue shifts we measure are for stars in this galaxy and a few galaxies in our Local Group.
The cosmological redshift is
* always red
* varies with distance from us (Hubble's law).

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And now, lets try explain what happening for expanding space itself when it expanding, what happening for yours magic metric coordinate system when is grow, but not outside to place / space which already exist?

And now we have EternalIgnorance from Pixie of key!
Here is a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos who has been talking about cosmology since 2008 and yet has not learned a basic fact about cosmology: The universe is not expanding into anything !
Frequently Asked Questions in Cosmology: What is the Universe expanding into?

This question is based on the ever popular misconception that the Universe is some curved object embedded in a higher dimensional space, and that the Universe is expanding into this space. This misconception is probably fostered by the balloon analogy which shows a 2-D spherical model of the Universe expanding in a 3-D space. While it is possible to think of the Universe this way, it is not necessary, and there is nothing whatsoever that we have measured or can measure that will show us anything about the larger space. Everything that we measure is within the Universe, and we see no edge or boundary or center of expansion. Thus the Universe is not expanding into anything that we can see, and this is not a profitable thing to think about.

Even simpler: If the universe is "everything that there" is then there can be nothing outside of it because then the universe would not be "everything that there".

 

[Pixie of key]

Once again that Doppler redshifted is different than cosmological redshift in no way asserts or even implies " superclusters dont move away from us, but still, later superclusters are more far away from us". That self-contradictory assertion is yours and yours alone. Stop trying to ascribe your own self-contradictory nonsense to others. If you don't like the implications of your own assertions then correct your assertions. Again how can you expect anyone to agree with you when even you can't agree with you.

Just like you say!

I agree!

"Cosmological redshift results from the expansion of space itself and not from the motion of an individual body."

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/c/cosmological+redshift

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This is Big bang theory people idea!

And just like you say, it is self-contradictory!

Big Bang theory is self-contradictory!

EternalRecycling

 

[Puppycow]

Why on earth does anyone besides Pixie of Key continue to post in this thread?
No need to answer that question BTW, just stop. Please.

 

[Pixie of key]

Why on earth does anyone besides Pixie of Key continue to post in this thread?
No need to answer that question BTW, just stop. Please.

What you mean?

Science people say, space expanding.

And i want to know what happening for expanding space when is expanding!

And you say, no need to answer that question?

Well, of course we need answer for that question.

Or do you mean, that there can be science theory which nobody cant explain and it is ok?

EternalRecycler

 

[The Man]

Why on earth does anyone besides Pixie of Key continue to post in this thread?
No need to answer that question BTW, just stop. Please.

Evidently you felt some reason to post on this thread. If you don't whish to post or read this thread, then simply don't. I believe there is an ignore option under thread tools. However, as I tend to learn a lot even on threads like this that would not be my preference.

 

[The Man]

you lie again!

Your simply or deliberate misinterpretation does not constitute a lie on the part of others.

it is not my idea!

this is what big bang people say!

Again that cosmological red shift is not a result of the motion of individual bodies in no way precludes those bodies from being, well, in motion. The self-contradictory "idea" and assertion remain entirely yours.

"Cosmological redshift results from the expansion of space itself and not from the motion of an individual body."

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/c/cosmological+redshift


EternalMovement

There is noting neither self-inconsistent nor generally inconsistent in that quotation. Again the fact that "Cosmological redshift results from the expansion of space itself and not from the motion of an individual body." in no way precludes said bodies from being in motion.

Perhaps an explanation by an analogues example might help. When I start my car it outputs exhaust gases even when it is not moving, when I drive my car it also outputs exhaust gas. However, I could just roll my car down a hill with the engine off and it would be in motion while not emitting exhaust gases. So while the simple emission of exhaust gases is not a result of the motion of my car it also doesn't preclude the motion of my car. Additionally one type of motion of my car (being driven under its own power) results from the same thing that produces the exhaust gases, the operation of the engine.

Similarly that Cosmological redshift isn't the result of the motion of "an individual body" it doesn't preclude that body from being in motion. Likewise the same thing that causes Cosmological redshift can also cause galaxy clusters to move apart. Much like my cars engine can both cause the emission of exhaust gasses and the motion of my car even if the emission of exhaust gases isn't a result of the motion of my car.

 

[The Man]

Just like you say!

I agree!

"Cosmological redshift results from the expansion of space itself and not from the motion of an individual body."

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/c/cosmological+redshift

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This is Big bang theory people idea!

And just like you say, it is self-contradictory!

Big Bang theory is self-contradictory!

EternalRecycling

I have never claimed that quotation or the Big Bang theory is self-contradictory. Just your simple or perhaps deliberate misrepresentation. Simply or deliberately misrepresenting what I have posted will not help you correct that deficiency.

 

[Pixie of key]

So, what happening for expanding space itself when it Expanding?

Forget that what happening for clusters!

Just tell what happening for expanding space ITSELF when it expanding?

EternalRecycler

 

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So, what happening for expanding space itself when it Expanding?

So why are you asking the EternalLie yet again when the answer has been given to you, Pixie of key?

 

[Pixie of key]

So why are you asking the EternalLie yet again when the answer has been given to you, Pixie of key?

You Lie!

There is no answer for my question!

I dont need To know what happening for clusters when expanding space expanding!

Big Bang People say, clusters are later More far away from each other, even clusters dont move away from each other at space which already exist and big nang peoåle believe this is because space expanding!

Forget clusters and what happening for clustets!

Lets explain what happening for expanding space when it expanding?

How There can be More and More expanding space later?

How that happening?

Where is coming from that New expanding space and how?

EternalRecycler

 

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You Lie!
..snipped nonsense...

That is a lie, Pixie of key: We have answered your question many times.

More EternalGibberish, EternalFantasy and EternalIgnorance about clusters does not change this basic fact.

Objects that are gravitationally bound do not measurably expand, e.g. the Solar System: Why doesn't the Solar System expand if the whole Universe is expanding?
The same apples to galaxies.
The same applied to groups of galaxies such as the Local Group.

Galaxy superclusters (your actual question Pixie of key !) are not gravitationally bound enough to prevent their expansion due to the expansion of the universe.
Galaxy clusters are not gravitationally bound enough to prevent their expansion due to the expansion of the universe.

 

[Pixie of key]

"Black holes that fit this description are called active galactic nuclei (AGN), and their intense radiation output also generates powerful winds that force material away from the galactic center. The study found that these AGN winds are powerful enough to drive the large molecular outflows that reach to the edges of the galaxy's borders"

http://m.phys.org/news/2015-03-supermassive-black-hole-star-making-gas.html

Galaxys be born, inside to the outside!

EternalRecycler

 

[Pixie of key]

"The researchers have found yet another peculiarity of Venus' upper atmosphere: early in the morning it is warmer than in the evening, while it should be the other way round."

http://m.phys.org/news/2015-03-unexplained-layer-venus-atmosphere.html

Onesimpleprinciple predict that long time ago!

Does the energy that comes from the sun and commits to the Venus open up mostly in mornings of Venus? This would make Venus rotate clockwise around its axle. At the same time Venus would get kinetic energy to a curved orbit, that would take Venus around the sun anti-clockwise.

http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/229

That is old text from my pages!

EternalRecycler

 

[abaddon]

"The researchers have found yet another peculiarity of Venus' upper atmosphere: early in the morning it is warmer than in the evening, while it should be the other way round."

http://m.phys.org/news/2015-03-unexplained-layer-venus-atmosphere.html

Onesimpleprinciple predict that long time ago!

Does the energy that comes from the sun and commits to the Venus open up mostly in mornings of Venus? This would make Venus rotate clockwise around its axle. At the same time Venus would get kinetic energy to a curved orbit, that would take Venus around the sun anti-clockwise.

http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/229

That is old text from my pages!

EternalRecycler

From your "predictions

Venus*

Venus rotates around its axle clockwise. The other planets rotate around their axles anti-clockwise. All the planets rotate around the sun anti-clockwise.

Long known.

Venus is the only planet that has average temperature also at nights in plus degrees, hundres of degrees!

Sure, but so what?

Does the energy that comes from the sun and commits to the Venus open up mostly in mornings of Venus?

LOLWUT? Open up? WTF does that mean?

This would make Venus rotate clockwise around its axle.

The word you flail around to find is "axis". At the same time as making your grand claim you have failed to establish any causal link.

At the same time Venus would get kinetic energy to a curved orbit, that would take Venus around the sun anti-clockwise.

WTF? All planets have curved orbits and all planets rotate clockwise or anti-clockwise depending upon if you are observing from above or below the ecliptic.

Suns energy committing to other planets of rock would open up mostly at nights.

Gibberish

The energy of Venus opening up in the mornings is then rotating Venus with downthread in relation to the surface of the energysea opening up from the sun. Does this cause friction that keeps Venus hot?

So, no you didn't. You simply found something on physorg which you failed to understand and inserted it into your "theory" like a square peg into a round hole and when it didn't fit, took out your hammer and tried to make it fit.

 

[Pixie of key]

Sun and planets expanding all a time!

Expanding Sun pushing expanding Venus away from expanding Sun.

Expanding neutrinos pushing through expanding Venus and expanding neutrinos interactive with expanding nucleus of atoms.

Thats why expanding Venus centre released expanding movement / energy which pushing out from expanding Venus that way where is always Venus morning!

How you explain that phenomena?

Why There is so warm at morning time?

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