New Disclosures on Benghazi

[johnny karate]

There has been significant discussions about the "previous investigations." There has also been several detailed posts explaining that a comprehensive investigation was needed because of The Obama Administration's refusal to cooperate and improper withholding of documents.

What was achieved with those previous investigations that you feel still needs to be achieved regarding Benghazi?

 

[The Big Dog]

And what was achieved with those investigations that you feel still needs to be achieved regarding Benghazi?

What was achieved with those previous investigations that you feel still needs to be achieved regarding Benghazi?

Ok.....

Hi! To reiterate, the special committee has just begun their investigation, which was required due to disclosures that the Obama administration has withheld documents and other evidence. As my last post outlined, it appears that continues into 2015. I think we all want a fair investigation after full disclosure don't you agree.

I am not going to explain what the 911 commission accomplished.

Any comments about the dozens of articles I have posted, or just asking questions?

 

[The Big Dog]

Judicial Watch Drops Another Bomb Shell.

The bombshells from Judicial Watch simply do not stop.

Hillary Clinton's Aides knew immediately that the Benghazi attack was terrorism

Judicial Watch announced today that on February 11, 2015, it uncovered documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing that top aides for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, including her then-chief of staff Cheryl Mills, knew from the outset that the Benghazi mission compound was under attack by armed assailants tied to a terrorist group.

Note that before Hillary Clinton issued her statement, Ansar Al Sharia was specifically identified as behind the attack, yet the documents reveal that State decided to go silent and let the false narrative that the attack arose out of a non-existent demonstration relating to an obscure internet video be the only narrative.

There is a ton of stuff there and I look forward to discussing your thoughts regarding these further disclosures, or as avid readers of this thread would call them, further confirmations.

On behalf of the American People: Thanks Judicial Watch!

 

[johnny karate]

Ok.....

Hi! To reiterate, the special committee has just begun their investigation, which was required due to disclosures that the Obama administration has withheld documents and other evidence. As my last post outlined, it appears that continues into 2015. I think we all want a fair investigation after full disclosure don't you agree.

I am not going to explain what the 911 commission accomplished.

Any comments about the dozens of articles I have posted, or just asking questions?

It's a relevant question, and not a particularly difficult one, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

Benghazi has already been investigated. You are of the opinion more investigation is necessary.

What do you feel still needs to be achieved that was successfully achieved in other terrorist attack investigations?

What for instance, was achieved with the investigations into 9/11 that has yet to be achieved regarding Benghazi?

Whose feet were held to the fire (to use your phrase) for failing to protect 3000+ civilian lives?

 

[remirol]

Thanks Judicial Watch!

About Judicial Watch

Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.

They couldn't even get through the first sentence on the page without lying, and they claim to be about "integrity"? Please. This website has only slightly more credibility than InfoWars or PrisonPlanet, and the repeated demands for more investigations now parallel 9/11 and the JFK murders near-exactly.

Nothing came of any of the prior investigations; nothing will come of this one. Pretty soon I expect to see "Civil Engineers For Benghazi Truth" started up.

 

[12AX7]

I think we all want a fair investigation after full disclosure don't you agree.

I think some want to keep investigating until a conclusion is reached that they agree with, no matter how many times it takes.

 

[The Big Dog]

snip....

Whose feet were held to the fire (to use your phrase) for failing to protect 3000+ civilian lives?

For the reasons I have explained, I reject the premise of your questions, some of which you have asked three straight times. Seriously?

So you have no comments about the articles I have posted, and are just asking questions.

The proper place for your conspiracy theories about 911 is the 911 forum.

They couldn't even get through the first sentence on the page without lying, and they claim to be about "integrity"? Please. This website has only slightly more credibility than InfoWars or PrisonPlanet, and the repeated demands for more investigations now parallel 9/11 and the JFK murders near-exactly.

Nothing came of any of the prior investigations; nothing will come of this one. Pretty soon I expect to see "Civil Engineers For Benghazi Truth" started up.

That is one of the purest examples of an ad hominem fallacy I have ever seen. Judicial Watch issues FOIA requests, taking the government to court to compel compliance, and then releases all of the documents to the public.

Due to their efforts it was discovered that the Obama Administration intentionally withheld documents directly related to their role in preparing the talking points. And Judicial Watch are the bad guys? wow.

 

[Augustine]

Thanks to the Benghazi investigation, we now come to learn that Hillary did all her official State Department business on her own private personal email account. Most transparent administration in history, indeed!

 

[The Big Dog]

Clinton Used Private E-mail Service, E-mails not previously disclosed

In yet another bombshell disclosure regarding wrongfully with held documents The New York Times reports that Hillary Clinton exclusively used a personal email account to conduct government business as secretary of state, "and may have violated federal requirements that officials’ correspondence be retained as part of the agency’s record."

The existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi as it sought correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and her aides about the attack.

Two weeks ago, the State Department, after reviewing Mrs. Clinton’s emails, provided the committee with about 300 emails — amounting to roughly 900 pages — about the Benghazi attacks.

Significantly:

It was only two months ago, in response to a new State Department effort to comply with federal record-keeping practices, that Mrs. Clinton’s advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails and decided which ones to turn over to the State Department.

This was long after Kerry and others in The Obama Administration represented that they had fully cooperated with the investigations into the Benghazi attacks, and falsely claimed they turned over all responsive documents.

I have explained time and again that the Obama administration's stonewalling has compromised any previous investigation into the Benghazi attacks, and these new disclosures bear further evidence of that.

Does anyone believe it is a coincidence that the effort to obtain Clinton's e-mails by her aides coincided with Gowdy's investigation?

Not too shabby for a "second-tier congresscritter from South Carolina."

 

[remirol]

Well, Republicans should be familiar with this... after all, Scott Walker was a pro at it.

When "zomg used private email accounts" is the best the Republicans have to offer, it shows how desperate they are. This investigation is already proving out to be the same as the last few; noise and irrelevance while wasting taxpayer money -- something Republicans are good at (Brownback, anyone?)

Judicial Watch are the bad guys?

Nah, they're just a hyperpartisan conservative hack site. That doesn't rise to the level of important enough to be 'bad', just ignorable. It's definitely amusing to see such a site claim to be "non-partisan" while touting integrity, though; <SNIP>

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Edited, rule 11.

 

[plague311]

In yet another bombshell disclosure regarding wrongfully with held documents The New York Times reports that Hillary Clinton exclusively used a personal email account to conduct government business as secretary of state, "and may have violated federal requirements that officials’ correspondence be retained as part of the agency’s record."

*snip*

Not too shabby for a "second-tier congresscritter from South Carolina."

Thanks to the Benghazi investigation, we now come to learn that Hillary did all her official State Department business on her own private personal email account. Most transparent administration in history, indeed!

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

Source:

"It has been public for several years that Secretary Clinton used her personal email account, apparently following the pattern of previous Secretaries of State," Cummings said in a statement . "Although Secretary Clinton has produced her emails to the State Department, it is unclear from press reports whether previous Secretaries have done the same."

So nothing new there, in fact the previous Secretaries of State did the same exact thing. Kind of weird. Also, the lone democrat is pushing for the emails to be released, that must show how much damning information is on them. Let's keep going!

For government business, she emailed them on their Department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the Department asked former Secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes.

They were definitely retained as she communicated through Department accounts, just not on her end.

Per the Wall Street Journal:

"It is unclear whether Mrs. Clinton's practice ran afoul of federal laws and regulations governing the retention of official records,"

A September 2013 bulletin from NARA suggests federal employees "should not generally use personal email accounts to conduct official agency business." The bulletin suggests exceptions could be "emergency situations" or on occasions where the employee is contacted through their personal e-mail account.

Both the Federal Records Act amendment and NARA bulletin took effect after Clinton left the State Department in February, 2013.

Let's get to the meat and potatoes here. What are we talking about? Is this just another overblown pity party by the right wingers?

 

[johnny karate]

For the reasons I have explained, I reject the premise of your questions, some of which you have asked three straight times. Seriously?

What abut my "premise" do you find so objectionable?

It's a simple and perfectly fair question to ask.

What results do you expect to be achieved with further investigations that were achieved with other terrorist attack investigations?

So you have no comments about the articles I have posted, and are just asking questions.

Well, one question, to be exact.

And no, I have no comments about the articles you posted because I haven't read them, don't plan on reading them, and in general, just don't care.

Why do I have to do a homework assignment in order to get an answer to one simple question?

The proper place for your conspiracy theories about 911 is the 911 forum.

I'm not sure to what conspiracy theories you're referring.

I'm merely holding up the 9/11 investigation as a model for Benghazi.

What did the 9/11 investigation achieve that you still feel needs to be achieved regarding Benghazi?

 

[The Big Dog]

But I was told that Benghazi had been fully investigated

The Chairman of The Special House Committee investigating the 2012 terror attacks in Benghazi, Libya (a/k/a "second tier congresscritter from South Carolina") has weighed in on the bombshell disclosures that Hillary Clinton did ALL her Federal Government business on her own special email service "@clintonemails.com" and that not only did she not timely turn them over to the Government, she has still not turned over all those emails, instead she has a law firm deciding what she feels like turning over.

Gowdy said none of those other committees had access to all relevant information. He said the new information about Clinton's personal e-mail accounts proves the need for further investigation.

Avid readers of this thread will certainly recognize that, as it has been explained here in detail, that The Obama Administration has clearly intentionally withheld documents (eg, clintonemails, the talking points memos). As Gowdy (a former top federal prosecutor) says "you don't need a law degree to understand that."

Remember that Clinton set up a Accountability Review Board? We know they didn't interview her, but now we know that they didn't review all of the documents, particularly those that were squirreled away on the servers of "Clintonemails.com." I hope that Pickering et al realize that they have been had.

 

[The Big Dog]

Judicial watch court action spurs Clinton Email disclosures

The first public sign of the email fiasco now enveloping former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may have come more than a month ago in a court filing in a lawsuit that judicial watch filed demanding details of Clinton’s response to the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/hillary-clinton-email-legal-115737.html#ixzz3TRvChnVp

The Justice Department lawyers disclosed:

”In the course of preparing additional information to provide to [Judicial watch] for purposes of settlement discussions, Defendant has discovered that additional searches for documents potentially responsive to the FOIA must be conducted.”

If I were a justice department lawyer who ever represented to a Federal Judge that the State Department complied with FOIA, I'd be quite concerned.

FOIA and perjury are not games.

 

[The Big Dog]

here is an interesting update regarding the Benghazi Committee's work in light of the disclosure that Clinton's emails were not turned over by the State department:

Newly Relevant Benghazi Panel Spooks Dems

Avid readers of this thread will note one glaring omission, namely that the reason the Committee was set up in the first place was because of the outrage following the disclosure that the White House had intentionally withheld directly relevant documents:

The Rhodes memo Debacle

 

[The Big Dog]

As a further fall out from the revelations that the Select Committee on Benghazi discovered regarding Hillary Clinton's cowboy/homebrew server, her purged email account and the discovery of gaps in her production of documents, the Select Committee is attempting to schedule two meetings with Hillary, one to discuss her emails and destruction of same (sort of a document custodian thing), another to discuss the Benghazi security situation.

The Select Committee should be commended for their investigation which revealed a trove of documents heretofore unknown.

Kudos!

 

[The Big Dog]

A while back, claims were made that the "independent" ARB made an independent investigation, which pointed fingers at low level employees, all of whom were eventually exonerated after Hillary left office.

Over the weekend Ambassador Pickering admitted that he did not have access to Hillary's emails either.

So Hillary appointed "investigators" to the Benghazi Accountability Review Board and they never interviewed her or looked at her emails.

Sounds to me that a new ARB is in order.

Links and embedded links, etc:

https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell

 

[The Big Dog]

Select Committee has received a request for an extension of time from Hillary Clinton to answer the subpoenaand has granted it, giving her until 3/27/2015 to respond.

I sure hope nothing happens to her cowboy server in the meantime.

 

[The Big Dog]

Clinton's Emails Start to leak

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us/politics/in-clinton-emails-on-benghazi-a-rare-glimpse-at-her-concerns.html?_r=0

And they appear to show her much more concerned with her public image than the facts.

“Did we survive the day?” she wrote.

“Survive, yes,” the adviser emailed back, adding that he would continue to gauge reaction the next morning. That was not about the attack, it was about the Congressional Investigation.

"“She did make clear our view that this started spontaneously then evolved,” Mr. Sullivan wrote to Mrs. Clinton. A couple of weeks later, State was singing a vastly different tune.

“You never said ‘spontaneous’ or characterized their motivations,” Mr. Sullivan wrote.

 

[The Big Dog]

Benghazi committee seeks deposition and sever

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/us/politics/hillary-clinton-email-benghazi-inquiry.html?_r=0

The benghazi select committee has requested what amounts to a deposition of Hillary Clinton in advance of her public testimony.