Food Babe Critics Speak Out

You are joking, right?

As far as I know, sick animals are also treated in organic farms, but there has to be a longer period before the animal can be slaughtered in order to get the antibiotics out of the meat.

Treating animals with antibiotics all the time only increases the risk of bacterial resistence, and is not better for the animals.

Same thing with conventional meat, they let the antibiotics withdraw from the system before they slaughter it. I would guess no one can sell an animal as antibiotic free if it ever got a dose of antibiotics.
 
You are joking, right?

As far as I know, sick animals are also treated in organic farms, but there has to be a longer period before the animal can be slaughtered in order to get the antibiotics out of the meat.

Treating animals with antibiotics all the time only increases the risk of bacterial resistence, and is not better for the animals or us.

FTFY.
 
That's an example the article's author uses, it's not from her book.

I know that. I quoted it because it's funny. But the suggestion that ice cream contains secretions from a beaver's anus is something the Food Babe claimed. It isn't true.
 
And apparently she is getting called out on her own complete ignorance and hypocrisy regarding the products she shills for.

Excerpt:
But, as I said in the introduction, the food coloring is only the tip of the iceberg. In “Be a Drug Store Beauty Dropout”, Hari warns her readers to avoid the following in all beauty products:

“Siloxanes. Look for ingredients ending in “-siloxane” or “-methicone.” Used in a variety of cosmetics to soften, smooth and moisten. Suspected endocrine disrupter and reproductive toxicant (cyclotetrasiloxane). Harmful to fish and other wildlife.” 4 (emphasis mine)

Yet the product she sells and claims to personally use includes:

Cyclopentasiloxane
Phenyl Trimethicone
Dimethicone
Castor Oil Bis-hydroxypropyl dimethicone esters

For someone who previously tried to blame a manufacturer’s web site when caught red-handed, the following online ingredient list isn’t good news: (click to enlarge):
 
And apparently she is getting called out on her own complete ignorance and hypocrisy regarding the products she shills for.

Excerpt:

Oh boy. :jaw-dropp

Thanks for stopping by the Food Babe shop! Below are beauty items that I enjoy using on a daily basis. Click the info icon for additional information. Click the item to purchase.

I just looked at her website and she still links to these items as of this writing.

It's kind of infuriating.

Rather than debate the safety issue with her, however, why not just ask her: if these additive are so dangerous, why does she sell so many products that contain them? It’s hard to find an item on the Food Babe shopping page that doesn’t contain something she says is harmful. And yet she accuses other companies of hypocrisy and double standards?

Exactly.
 
All of her critics are "racists, sexists, shills & haters".

http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...e-sexist-shill-cards-from-deck-of-deflection/

As Hari’s most outspoken Indian-American, female critic, I think I’m among those qualified to address this. My first reaction was to wonder whether any of Hari’s critics had recently made a racist or sexist remark about her. Then I realized that perhaps she was referring to the larger world of Internet commenters. Hari has previously referred to her detractors as misogynist, sexist, industry shills. In a blog post responding to a critical NPR piece, Hari states,

Instead of focusing on the issues at hand I’ve raised about the food industry, their go-to criticisms are ad hominem personal attacks: they’ve attacked me, as a woman, in ways they’d never attack my male colleagues. I am personally being subjected to hate speech, harassment and cyber-bullying on a daily basis.

NPR hate speech?

Some more reactions:

Jezebel:
The Food Babe is a Raving Lunatic
Wonkette:
The Snake Oil Bulletin: Butt-Chugging Gluten With The Food Babe
Racist, sexist right-wingers
 
Best comment on Jezebel page:

Being a nuttier-than-squirrel-poop lunatic is the path to fame and fortune in modern America.

It's also an indicator that the empire is collapsing.
 
I will never, ever buy meat that is labelled antibiotic free. Essentially this means that the animal grew up on a farm that did not use antibiotics to assist sick animals. By buying antibiotic free meat, you are directly contributing to needless animal suffering.

Actually just the opposite. If that really is your reason, you should realise that the reason for the general antibiotic need is the inhumane CAFO conditions and also sub-therapeutic antibiotics used as a metabolic modifier.

Actual legit reasons for antibiotic use in organic animal husbandry are required when needed...at least in the US. I don't know the regs of every country.

In the US if you refuse to treat a sick animal you can loose your organic certification. It is extremely rare to need antibiotics though. Grassfed animals are significantly healthier in general.

You are joking, right?

As far as I know, sick animals are also treated in organic farms, but there has to be a longer period before the animal can be slaughtered in order to get the antibiotics out of the meat.

Treating animals with antibiotics all the time only increases the risk of bacterial resistence, and is not better for the animals.

Regulations vary and they keep changing. But either a quarantine for a specific period of time to get the antibiotics to flush, or they simply sell that particular animal under a different label (and get a bit less money for it).

Either way, at least in the US, if the animal requires antibiotics and you let it suffer, you can loose your organic certification. The animal welfare requirements are much stricter for organic. Still not perfect. There are still a few loopholes. But that's partly why the regs get updated.

My knowledge lines up with Octavo's claims.

Riddell, whose group is comprised of veterinarians who specialize in treating cattle, said most vets probably encounter only one or two organic farms and "it's asking a lot of them to know actually two different ways of treating something."

It's also difficult to get subjects added to "already overflowing" veterinary curriculums, Riddell said. Iowa State University and some other schools now offer courses on alternative therapies, but the focus tends to be more on herbal and Chinese therapies, not necessarily organics, said Jim McKean, a veterinary professor at Iowa State University.

Mike Chaddock, deputy director of the Association of American Veterinary Colleges, said it's unlikely schools would offer a course just about organic treatments. Most veterinary schools in the U.S have a "one-health" curriculum in which students are taught "how their decisions affect the health of the animal, the health of human beings as recipients of food produced by the animal .... and impact nature and the environment."

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But McKean said organic practices have their own health risks. For example, animals kept in a pasture are more likely to encounter disease-carrying wildlife and can be more at risk for parasitic diseases, such as trichinosis or toxoplasma, he said.

"Both of those have largely been removed by moving swine indoors into confinement operations," McKean said.

He also criticized what he described as reluctance among organic farmers to seek medical treatment.

Organic regulations bar farmers from withholding antibiotics from sick animals just to retain their organic certification. But once animals receive antibiotics or hormones, they must be removed from the organic herd. Meat from a cow, for example, could then be sold as conventional beef, but at a much lower price.

"One of my issues with the organic livestock movement is that because of the increased value of the organic animal versus those that have been treated for diseases, is they put off treatment of diseases for an extended period of time," McKean said, adding that he believes the delay can cause unnecessary suffering.

Linky.

I've seen lots of nonsense "alternative modalities" peddled due to this.
 
and post a word of criticism and she bans you quicker than you can blink....not keen on constructive criticism is our little nut, food babe.....
 
She is definitely woo and a blight on society. The sooner she departs it the better. She makes me ashamed to be of the same species.

Really? That's the blight you want removed from the Earth? Not excess CO2?

Cuz I'd pick that.
 
And also you have to consider why they need so many antibiotics: It's because they are raised in close quarters that contribute to disease and are also constantly close to their own and other animals excrement.

As well as antibiotics, Sheep dips to protect against (the admittedly unpleasant) fly strike had been compulsory in the UK between 1978 and 1992 and the chemicals were "almost impossible" to use safely in the field.

DDT is another example of a pesticide that in now banned in the vast majority of situations.

Currently I wouldn't want to bet on neocotinoids remaining off the banned list due to their environmental impact.
 
It's always interesting to see how posters arguing that everything is chemicals fail to acknowledge that quoted have connotations as well denotations.
 
It's always interesting to see how posters arguing that everything is chemicals fail to acknowledge that quoted have connotations as well denotations.
I think those posters are actually being nice. The connotation of "chemical" is non-natural, synthesized, and in extension of that: dangerous.

However, most if not all of those "chemicals" are actually also found in nature. And to take one example, I much prefer to take an aspirin pill than chew on birch bark. Bayer much better controls the synthesized acetyl salicyl acid it puts in its pill with respect to purity and concentration than nature does with birch bark.

It's the naturalistic fallacy in action.
 
I much prefer to take an aspirin pill than chew on birch bark. Bayer much better controls the synthesized acetyl salicyl acid it puts in its pill with respect to purity and concentration than nature does with birch bark.
As I understand it, that's not so much a question of purity & concentration, but more that aspirin (acetyl salicylic acid) is a pro-drug for the salicylic acid (the natural birch bark stuff), which is much more aggressive on the digestive system.
 
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