thatsmystory
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It's pretty difficult to get particulars of a plot if you don't share the information.
Merged deliberate obstruction by the CIA of pre-9/11 investigations?
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It's pretty difficult to get particulars of a plot if you don't share the information.
thatsmystory
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Take your pick what suspected operative the FBI got information on. Don't forget to include whether the information the FBI received from the CIA would be admissible in a US court. Don't forget that the FBI does not prosecute criminals, they only investigate and gather evidence.
Could this be a little more complicated than you think?
Paloalto has credibly explained why the sharing failures were not attributable to legal restrictions.
FBI agent Steve Bongardt was outraged when the information wasn't shared with his unit. FBI agent Ali Soufan threw up when he learned about the withholding. I believe it was FBI agent Jack Cloonan who said "the CIA has blood on its hands" in relation to the withholding.
DGM
Skeptic not Atheist
Let's do an "imagine".
If the US government rounded up all the people they sent to Guantanamo post 9/11 on 9/10/01 claiming a "credible threat". Would you be OK with this?
Be truthful. Would you accept all the airport security rules post 9/11 if 9/11 never happened because they claim it could? People bitch now and the threat has been proven real.
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Missing 28 pages
Latest new on the missing 28 pages:
On Saturday, on January 3, 2015, on CNN in an interview with Michael Smerconish, Bob Graham stated that he had read the 28 pages but could not comment on them as they were classified.
Then almost beyond belief he told everyone exactly what was in the 28 pages.
Can you believe this!
Latest new on the missing 28 pages:
On Saturday, on January 3, 2015, on CNN in an interview with Michael Smerconish, Bob Graham stated that he had read the 28 pages but could not comment on them as they were classified.
Then almost beyond belief he told everyone exactly what was in the 28 pages.
Can you believe this!
No, Paloalto made up his conclusions; his SPAM attacks do not support the conclusions he makes which are at best opinions, or more like lies. His conclusions are fantasy.
Oystein
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I have added all of the source for my information. My information is impeccable and beyond repute. It comes mostly from official US government documents with other information that is well corroborated by credible sources such as Lawrence Wright, Bob Woodward and Ken Silverstein. In fact all of this information has been corroborated in multiple ways with multiple sources.
You have posted no sources for any of the ridiculous statements you make. It looks like you just make some conclusions, based on nothing but total and complete ignorance of the facts.
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Just Google, CNN, January 3, 2015, interview by Michael Smerconish of Bob Graham
Just Google, CNN, January 3, 2015, interview by Michael Smerconish of Bob Graham
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Jango
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Wow, you've really gone down the rabbit hole.
What's wrong with Mr. Woodward?
Jango
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Oystein
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This?
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/01/03/smerconish-graham-strada-01032015.cnn
Is this all? I had expected more than just "Saudi Arabia had a hand in financing 9/11".
ETA: There's another tidbit:
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/01/03/smerconish-graham-01032015.cnn
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Let’s see, we are told "Is this all? I had expected more than just "Saudi Arabia had a hand in financing 9/11"".
ARE YOU FOR REAL?
This means the US had information and solid evidence of the agreement that the Royal family of Saudi Arabia had made with the rabid anti-western Wahabi clerics in Saudi Arabia. This argument allowed these clerics to finance any movement they wanted to promote their radical Islamic rabid anti-western agenda, including al Qaeda, the Taliban, AQIQ, and ISIS as long a they did not attack the Saudi royal family. One of these groups, al Qaeda, killed 300 people in American, many of them Americans on 9/11, with money obtained directly from the Saudi royal family.
These groups have cost the US 3 trillion dollars and almost 10,00 soldiers to fight endless unwinnable wars with extremist Muslims recruited from the 1000s of Maddrassas financed by these radical extremist Muslim clerics in Saudi Arabic, clerics who are still financing ISIS and al Qaeda today.
And this information was so explosive that the Bush administration had hidden it for the last 12-13 years from the American people to hide the fact that the Bush administration had a unusually close relationship with the Saudi family in order to get their oil for companies friendly to Bush and Cheney. We send the Saudi royal family money for oil and they turn around and use this money to attack and kill thousands of innocent US civilians and many thousands of American soldiers.
My personal option is hiding this information was out and out treason by the Bush administration. It is also clear that the real enemy all along has been the Saudi royal family.
Let’s see, we are told "Is this all? I had expected more than just "Saudi Arabia had a hand in financing 9/11"".
ARE YOU FOR REAL?
This means the US had information and solid evidence of the agreement that the Royal family of Saudi Arabia had made with the rabid anti-western Wahabi clerics in Saudi Arabia. This argument allowed these clerics to finance any movement they wanted to promote their radical Islamic rabid anti-western agenda, including al Qaeda, the Taliban, AQIQ, and ISIS as long a they did not attack the Saudi royal family. One of these groups, al Qaeda, killed 300 people in American, many of them Americans on 9/11, with money obtained directly from the Saudi royal family.
These groups have cost the US 3 trillion dollars and almost 10,00 soldiers to fight endless unwinnable wars with extremist Muslims recruited from the 1000s of Maddrassas financed by these radical extremist Muslim clerics in Saudi Arabic, clerics who are still financing ISIS and al Qaeda today.
And this information was so explosive that the Bush administration had hidden it for the last 12-13 years from the American people to hide the fact that the Bush administration had a unusually close relationship with the Saudi family in order to get their oil for companies friendly to Bush and Cheney. We send the Saudi royal family money for oil and they turn around and use this money to attack and kill thousands of innocent US civilians and many thousands of American soldiers.
My personal option is hiding this information was out and out treason by the Bush administration. It is also clear that the real enemy all along has been the Saudi royal family.
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I think you missed his point. I feel he is commenting upon the lack of evidence within the supplied links, for that statement in itself means very little.
You have to be kidding, right?
The missing 28 pages are classified, HELLO!
No one has said what are in these pages in 12 years.
To have Bob Graham, who had read this material, state what is in this classified material, just after saying that he could not reveal this classified information, is huge.
You are never going to get any more evidence until these 28 pages are declassified, which may never take place.
Jango
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Which seems perfectly fine for many folks I've met online.
Perhaps you could tell us the contents of the 28 missing pages ?
The US had information and solid evidence of an agreement that the Royal family of Saudi Arabia had made with the rabid anti-western Wahabi clerics in Saudi Arabia. This argument allowed these clerics to finance any movement they wanted to promote their radical Islamic rabid anti-western agenda, including al Qaeda, the Taliban, AQIQ, and ISIS as long a they did not attack the Saudi royal family. One of these groups, al Qaeda, killed 3000 people in American, many of them Americans on 9/11, with money obtained directly from the Saudi royal family.
These groups have cost the US 3 trillion dollars and almost 10,00 soldiers to fight endless unwinnable wars with extremist Muslims recruited from the 1000s of Maddrassas' financed by these radical extremist Muslim clerics in Saudi Arabic, clerics who are still financing ISIS and al Qaeda today.
And this information was so explosive that the Bush administration had hidden it for the last 12-13 years from the American people to hide the fact that the Bush administration had an unusually close relationship with the Saudi family in order to get their oil for companies friendly to Bush and Cheney. We send the Saudi royal family money for oil and they turn around and use this money to attack and kill thousands of innocent US civilians and many thousands of American soldiers.
My personal opinion is hiding this information was out and out treason by the Bush administration. It is also clear that the real enemy all along has been the Saudi royal family. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq. What did Iraq have to do with 9/11, NOTHING!
By the way how many main stream media sources have printed this story, none as far as I can see, other than CNN, who had actually interviewed Bob Graham.
In other words, you don't know what information is in the missing 28 pages and your personal opinion is all that matters.
Just out of interest was the credit card bill paid ? If so buy whom ?
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I repeated what Bob Graham stated in this interview, this is so far the best information we have on what is in the missing 28 pages. I did not add my personal opinion on this material other than it is clear to me from this interview that Saudi Arabia has been the enemy of the US all along while pretending to be our friend.
If you did not get this, please reread my post and go to this interview.
Credit card bill?