Ebola in America

[Dan O.]

So, I heard this from a coworker today.

She went to a local clinic in Tennessee to get a flu vaccine. The lady taking her information said "it's good you're getting vaccinated with all that Ebola going around"

Stupidity knows no boundaries.

I specifically got a flu shot this year because of all the Ebola scare going around. I don't want to be going to the hospital with sever flu symptoms which they will be forced to treat as Ebola until confirmed otherwise.

 

[cosmicaug]

If people suspect that they have ebola, they're going to go to the hospital. Insurance will be a minor secondary concern.

And if we end up in a situation where it's pervasive enough that people with ebola won't suspect it, well, we've already failed at that point.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/ebola-victims-nephew-speaks-thomas-eric

Keep in mind it's only an allegation, though.

 

[cosmicaug]

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/ebola-victims-nephew-speaks-thomas-eric

Keep in mind it's only an allegation, though.

But you should also keep in mind that sometimes things like this get decided on the edge case. In this instance, the edge case was the guy at the ER who doesn't really seem that sick.

Whether he has insurance might be the difference between being sent back home and getting told to take a couple of Tylenol or someone taking a look (or at least actually looking at the paperwork).

 

[dudalb]

Good commentary on "Fearbola".

/10/15/opinion/robbins-ebola-fear/?hpt=ob_articlefooter&iref=obnetwork

 

[dudalb]

dp

 

[Ziggurat]

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/ebola-victims-nephew-speaks-thomas-eric

Keep in mind it's only an allegation, though.

Not only is it only an allegation, but the same kind of crap can happen in universal healthcare systems. Hospitals will still be under pressure to contain costs, and will still have incentive to simply send patients home when they think they can. So it's still not evidence that any of the problems we're facing have anything to do with universal healthcare. That cuts both ways, of course: there's no reason to think the response would be any worse either. There's really just no reason to even introduce the issue to the current discussion.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

So, I heard this from a coworker today.

She went to a local clinic in Tennessee to get a flu vaccine. The lady taking her information said "it's good you're getting vaccinated with all that Ebola going around"

Stupidity knows no boundaries.

That's the kind of thing I would say as a potentially-too-subtle joke; you know, intentionally confusing the flu and Ebola because of their similar, early-stage symptoms.

I like playing dumb for a laugh sometimes...

Good commentary on "Fearbola".

/10/15/opinion/robbins-ebola-fear/?hpt=ob_articlefooter&iref=obnetwork

I think this is the link you wanted: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/opinion/robbins-ebola-fear/.

 

[Ziggurat]

Oh, and the latest news is that the nurse who was recently diagnosed after having flown with a fever was given the OK to fly by the CDC.

Top. Men.

 

[theprestige]

But you should also keep in mind that sometimes things like this get decided on the edge case. In this instance, the edge case was the guy at the ER who doesn't really seem that sick.

Whether he has insurance might be the difference between being sent back home and getting told to take a couple of Tylenol or someone taking a look (or at least actually looking at the paperwork).

On the other hand, the VA demonstrates that even in a healthcare system where every patient is fully insured, far too many can be sent home to wait for an appointment until they die.

 

[Ziggurat]

That's the kind of thing I would say as a potentially-too-subtle joke; you know, intentionally confusing the flu and Ebola because of their similar, early-stage symptoms.

I like playing dumb for a laugh sometimes...

I have no idea how the statement was intended, and the speaker may well have been an idiot who didn't know what they were talking about, but it's not actually a stupid idea. The less flu that goes around, the easier it will be to deal with ebola (fewer false alarms, less risk of secondary infections in patients who do get ebola), and getting vaccinated with a flu shot not only helps keep you from getting the flu, it helps prevent you from infecting others.

 

[shuize]

Oh, and the latest news is that the nurse who was recently diagnosed after having flown with a fever was given the OK to fly by the CDC.

Top. Men.

Yes, the country is in the very best of hands.

After coming into recent direct contact with the "explosive" Ebola patient, nurse Vinson apparently did not see any reason why she shouldn't hop on a plane to Cleveland. Where did she get her license, a box of Cracker Jacks?

It gets better though. After nurse Vinson noticed her elevated temperature she thought, hey, maybe she ought to call the CDC for guidance. The folks at the CDC who assured us they were "monitoring" the health care workers involved in the Dallas case were unable to put two and two together to advise Vinson that an elevated fever plus recent direct contact with an "explosive" Ebola patient meant maybe, just maybe, she should not get on an airplane again. Of course, this was after the first nurse, Vinson's coworker Ms. Pham, was confirmed to have Ebola.

Why do I imagine the rocket scientist at the CDC who answered Vinson's call was too busy playing computer solitaire to give her case more than the two seconds thought necessary for any rational person to conclude Vinson flying was a really ******* bad idea?

 

[12AX7]

(5) None of us were sure that VA hospitals were capable of dealing with an ebola outbreak.

Are any of those areas capable of dealing with an ebola outbreak?

Cheers.

As a vet, I feel confident saying that the VA couldn't handle it; they can barely function as-is. Hell, an outbreak of athlete's foot would crumble the VA.

YMMV of course.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Oh yea! This morning CBS America Show Morning Time Happy Zone (or whatever it's called) had a guy on talking about the potential lapses that occurred at the Dallas hospital but was showing images from Africa of nearly dead people lying in beds, bodies on the side of the roads, and people in full moon suits spraying down mud shacks.

I couldn't believe it.

They are freaking people out, big time. I spent some time this afternoon reassuring someone who was in a bit of a panic.

 

[12AX7]

I am seriously tempted to sell all assets and turn the money into gold
This is the most serious threat to world health ever faced.

I hope you understand

Be sure to buy it from the company Glenn Beck recommends.

Anybody else finding that TV News coverage of this deserves some kind of award for irresponsible fear mongering because fear brings Ratings?
And this applies to all the major News Networks. They are all milking this using fear.

Yes.

I specifically got a flu shot this year because of all the Ebola scare going around. I don't want to be going to the hospital with sever flu symptoms which they will be forced to treat as Ebola until confirmed otherwise.

When they ask you if you've been in contact with anyone travelling to/from Africa, what will you...

Meh. Nevermind.

 

[Samson]

Be sure to buy it from the company Glenn Beck recommends.



Yes.



When they ask you if you've been in contact with anyone travelling to/from Africa, what will you...

Meh. Nevermind.

You make it look like my gold quote, so for the record I was quoting a panic merchant.

 

[Dan O.]

When they ask you if you've been in contact with anyone travelling to/from Africa, what will you...

Meh. Nevermind.

Right now it looks like the infection rate within the US is two new victims per fortnight per carrier. Presuming that this rate is maintained, for 1 year, that's 65 million infected carriers from inside the US vs a few thousand travelers entering the US from Africa each week, some of which might be infected.

 

[SezMe]

If people are getting ebola in the US without even suspecting the possibility, then we've already lost complete control of the situation.

I dunno, Zig. I find myself constantly amused/depressed/surprised/disgusted all at once at the ignorance that aboundth in the good ol' USofA. I'm sure you've seen a lot of ignorance too (including here, eh? ) I have zero confidence that the level of awareness of Ebola will have any salubrious effect on the problem whatsoever.

 

[12AX7]

Right now it looks like the infection rate within the US is two new victims per fortnight per carrier. Presuming that this rate is maintained, for 1 year, that's 65 million infected carriers from inside the US vs a few thousand travelers entering the US from Africa each week, some of which might be infected.

Quoted so I can visit this post later.

 

[Belz...]

Right now it looks like the infection rate within the US is two new victims per fortnight per carrier. Presuming that this rate is maintained, for 1 year, that's 65 million infected carriers from inside the US vs a few thousand travelers entering the US from Africa each week, some of which might be infected.

And it also means that 70% of the species will be dead within 2 years. Right, right ?

 

[Mike!]

Quoted so I can visit this post later.

If you're still alive!