Ebola in America

I just want to comment on an earlier comment in the thread about quarantine. Under U.S. Federal Law (section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264)), the Department of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures for isolation and quarantine to prevent the spread of disease. This is delegated to officers of the CDC. For the record, the CDC does have their own uniforms :)

They can ask local law enforcement, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Coast Guard, or even potentially U.S. Homeland Security to help enforce an isolation or quarantine order, and the CDC are granted "police power" by this law during such an order to take action affecting individuals for the benefit of society. States and sovereign tribes may have their own laws to permit isolation and quarantine as well, but U.S. Federal Law supercedes these laws when discrepancies arise. Although breaking a quarantine can lead to fines and imprisonment, the law is not clear if law enforcement asked to aid the CDC may additionally use more forceful measures upon people choosing to break quarantine.

The last time a quarantine measure was used in the United States was during the Great Flu Pandemic in 1918-1919.

Much of this information was taken from the CDC's website:
http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html
 
xinonix said:
I remember when only a few black people in Africa got ebola, it was not curable
Now as soon as some white people get ebola they have come up with this new procedure to cure them.
Do any of you bleeding heart liberals think that there is something not kosher about this?
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What new Procedure......
 
carlitos said:
wollclark, have you ever spoken to someone about your irrational fears? It seems like it might be a good idea. Anxiety is pretty common, and there are a lot of treatment options.
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I don't have the money for such a thing. Also, I'm not sure it is irrational, the authorities have been messing up left and right, it seems.

I'm pacing back and forth without an idea of what I can do to calm down. Watching news keeps me on edge, ignoring the news makes me feel like I'm missing something. I would lie back in bed, but as I posted earlier, I can't trust my dreams to not scare me, as I had a dream about a zombie outbreak. I wish I could see a therapist, but seeing a therapist can't stop ebola from being a current global problem.

Also, more good news: http://www.wltx.com/story/news/heal...-county-jail-being-tested-for-ebola/16648599/
 
Ixion said:
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The last time a quarantine measure was used in the United States was during the Great Flu Pandemic in 1918-1919....
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Web site is erroneous. Several people who declined to follow TB quarantine or take meds have been jailed in the last decade or two. I'll find you some links.
 
dudalb said:
What new Procedure......
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You know: the "treat the symptoms" one that when you actually have the resources to hydrate and support actually allows the sick person to survive. Resources that the racist west had selfishly developed for their own safety and fiendishly refused to share with the poor and oppressed in Africa...
Eta. Almost forgot about proper sanitation and anti-infection techniques that the racist west has kept secret since the middle 1800's...
 
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wollclark said:
seeing a therapist can't stop ebola from being a current global problem.
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No, but it might help you function normally. You can't control the world, only your own behavior within it. Feeling like you're feeling, you can't afford not to treat this.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Does anyone get the impression that the doomsday prepped are having wet dreams right now?
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Oh my BiL has gone afapcalyptic over this. I get 2 emails a day trying to coordinate our mad dash to my FiL's (& friend's) survival bunker in the Sierras I've dubbed "Vault Stronghold".

(Yes, they are building one, but its not because they fear some kind of doomsday. Its because they are a small group of retired, widowered, engineers who got bored & had money, time, access to land in the foothills & heavy equipment.)
 
Links to people jailed for TB quarantine:

Man jailed for having deadly TB
Robert Daniels has been locked up indefinitely, perhaps for the rest of his life, since last July. But he has not been charged with a crime. Instead, he suffers from an extensively drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis, or XDR-TB. It is considered virtually untreatable.
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Man refuses TB test, is held in Fresno County Jail
Another man who ducked out on TB treatment is now in the Kern County jail
The Fresno County man was taken into custody about a week ago, said Dr. Kenneth Bird, the county's interim health officer....

Bird said the man has given no reason for refusing the chest X-ray. The test would determine whether he has an active case of TB, which could make him infectious, he said. He is being held in isolation as a precaution, Bird said. ...

Bird said the man in the Fresno County Jail has had a positive skin test for TB in the past and began having symptoms of the disease about two weeks ago, but it cannot be determined if he has active tuberculosis without an X-ray.

The case has been referred to the county's District Attorney and a court hearing might be held to determine if the man is breaking the law, Bird said. Refusing to comply with a health order is a misdemeanor offense, he said.
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Also Tuesday, a San Joaquin County prosecutor said a man who refused treatment for tuberculosis in Stockton was taken into custody in Kern County late Monday....

Authorities last week obtained an arrest warrant for Rosas Cruz, saying he was diagnosed with tuberculosis in March after going to San Joaquin General Hospital's emergency room with a severe cough. Medical staff at the hospital told him to stay in a Stockton motel room, where a health worker would deliver his medication and watch him take it. But officials say he left.

Rosas Cruz is a transient and comes from an area of Mexico known for a drug-resistant strain of TB, authorities said.
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Woman Jailed 10 Months for Refusing TB Medicine
Souvannarath, the mother of seven, was sent to Fresno County jail for 10 months for refusing to take her tuberculosis medication. She never had a court hearing, never saw a lawyer and no charges were ever filed.

Last week, after public interest lawyers took up her cause, the 51-year-old Laotian refugee was released from jail by a county judge who ruled that she was the victim of "an inadvertent but illegal detention."...
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It's not illegal but a judge is supposed to review the case after the public health officer orders the detention.

... Jailing TB patients who refuse to take medication is not unheard of in California. In the mid-1990s, for instance, San Joaquin County got national attention when it began hunting down recalcitrant TB patients, putting their mug shots on the evening news and incarcerating them in a special unit of the county jail.
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These are state laws. In my state, WA, the public health officer can order detention for enforced quarantine. Like a mental health professional ordering the detention of a suicidal person. The detained persons can be held 3 days, then they need a court hearing to be kept longer.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Web site is erroneous. Several people who declined to follow TB quarantine or take meds have been jailed in the last decade or two. I'll find you some links.
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The website is not erroneous. My reading of it was. The website says "large-scale", which I failed to paraphrase in my post. The error is mine.
 
carlitos said:
No, but it might help you function normally. You can't control the world, only your own behavior within it. Feeling like you're feeling, you can't afford not to treat this.
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Thank you for your concern. You're right, I've just now eaten again; before this I hadn't eaten since yesterday morning. My appetite is basically non-existent because of this situation. :(
 
xinonix said:
I remember when only a few black people in Africa got ebola, it was not curable
Now as soon as some white people get ebola they have come up with this new procedure to cure them.
Do any of you bleeding heart liberals think that there is something not kosher about this?
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Stupid post but brings up an interesting question:
Are blood transfusions allowed under Kosher rules? Or is it just Witnesses who ban those?
 
And it won't take long until the snake oil salesmen start peddling phony "cures" for Ebola.....
 
IDB87 said:
I had so much fun writing it. :D

All this talk about mass death brought on by a plague is going to make me read The Stand again, and I really don't have the time. Argggh

ETA, just caught what you did there.
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M-O-O-N that spells read it again
 
Ugh.

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/...ients-apartment-without-protective-gear.html/

The deputies were not wearing any protective gear, not even latex gloves, Dyer said.

The sheriff’s department later took their vehicles out of service for quarantine and asked the deputies to remove and bag their uniforms and boots, Dyer said. But the deputies were not given any information about potential health hazards, he said.

“These guys are really upset,” he said. “Their families are really upset.”
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Where is this control that the CDC and experts keep talking about?
 
Oh good grief, some ignorant reporter is whining "the whole system broke down, it doesn't look like it's working".

For pity's sake. One person has it, maybe some close contacts. It's not going any further than that. I guess what failed here is the public and the reporters ability to understand infection basics.
 
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