Michael Brown Shooting

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LTC8K6 said:
Brown could have run 35 feet after being shot near the car. It wouldn't match some witness testimony, but it's entirely possible.
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It would match Dorian Johnson's account and is not incompatible with the anonymous one who gave that report to the Fox affiliate.
 
Surprised that people are not outraged by the arrest of the reporters. That strikes at the heart of the first admendment.
 
dudalb said:
Surprised that people are not outraged by the arrest of the reporters. That strikes at the heart of the first admendment.
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Indeed it does, I just don't do 'outrage' very well anymore since I stopped drinking whilst posting. :p

However that information does suggest the situation is not being handled well and was incorporated into my last comment on the subject.
 
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LTC8K6 said:
Perhaps the results are likely to inflame tensions because they do not favor the witness reports and/or they are unfavorable to Brown?

I suppose it could be either way.
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My guess is that there's too much lead in the body for them to be comfortable releasing that just yet.
 
dudalb said:
Surprised that people are not outraged by the arrest of the reporters. That strikes at the heart of the first admendment.
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The first amendment also discusses the freedom of speech and to peaceably assemble. The local/county cops had been attacking *those* rights since Monday, so why expect them to respect freedom of press?

ETA - come to think of it, they'd been trying to intimidate the reporters that were covering the protests since then, also.
 
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Kaosium said:
My guess is that there's too much lead in the body for them to be comfortable releasing that just yet.
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If the cop did as witnesses have claimed, I'd think he'd just get thrown under the bus. He's just a small fish as far as cops go. It seems unlikely that he'd be protected very far if he murdered Brown while Brown was trying to surrender.

Maybe the cop is related to a bigger fish?
 
I'm listening to the WA Post reporter who was arrested by the St Louis police and it's insane. I see no reason to think the reporter is lying. It's seriously appalling.
 
LTC8K6 said:
If the cop did as witnesses have claimed, I'd think he'd just get thrown under the bus. He's just a small fish as far as cops go. It seems unlikely that he'd be protected very far if he murdered Brown while Brown was trying to surrender.

Maybe the cop is related to a bigger fish?
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Or maybe racism and that protecting one's own in the department is worse than one would think.
 
They are just plain stupid, period. Right now every investigative reporter for in the US is booking a flight to Ferguson.
Just watched more footage of the city officials in Ferguson. Totally Clueless. I guess it is a case that a fish rots from the head down.......

But what can you expect from a state whose hero is Jesse James?
 
dudalb said:
Surprised that people are not outraged by the arrest of the reporters. That strikes at the heart of the first admendment.
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I for one am outraged, as are many people.

Cops crossed a line very stupidly tonight. Even the governor is disturbed about the arrest of reporters. Notice they were released fairly quickly without any charges being filed. If it had been Amy Goodman from Democracy Now arrested you'd think maybe they were picking and choosing which news coverage to censor. But the WA Post? And I doubt they singled out the HuffPo.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I proposed one earlier involving the "fleeing felon" rule.

The idea was that the cop thought Brown had taken his sidearm in the struggle, and shot Brown with his backup gun, once in the car, and then also as he fled.
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"thought Brown had taken his sidearm"

That's crap. If that was the cop's story you can bet we'd have heard it by now.

I meant a plausible scenario, not a fantasy one.
 
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LTC8K6 said:
Brown could have run 35 feet after being shot near the car. It wouldn't match some witness testimony, but it's entirely possible.
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Again, you are trying too hard. If that was the case that autopsy would have been released in a hot flash.
 
LTC8K6 said:
If the cop did as witnesses have claimed, I'd think he'd just get thrown under the bus. He's just a small fish as far as cops go. It seems unlikely that he'd be protected very far if he murdered Brown while Brown was trying to surrender.
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I suspect in the long run we'll be scraping him off the pavement, but figuratively, not literally. He does deserve a fair trial and the presumption of innocence when that occurs, thus I understand if they are unwilling to subject him to the media frenzy.

Maybe the cop is related to a bigger fish?
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That's possible too, but what's more likely from what I've seen so far is the evidence against him is so damning that releasing it now might be like 'living in a powderkeg and giving off sparks...'
 
LTC8K6 said:
The idea that you can't film the police does puzzle me.

Maybe we are getting used to the increase in police powers?
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You can film the police. The courts have upheld it over and over again.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
"thought Brown had taken his sidearm"

That's crap. If that was the cop's story you can bet we'd have heard it by now.

I meant a plausible scenario, not a fantasy one.
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If the gun was lost in the struggle, it's not fantastic to think the officer would assume Brown had it, even if Brown didn't, imo.

But yes, it's just worthless speculation.

It would certainly inflame tensions, so maybe they are waiting?
 
Kaosium said:
I suspect in the long run we'll be scraping him off the pavement, but figuratively, not literally. He does deserve a fair trial and the presumption of innocence when that occurs, thus I understand if they are unwilling to subject him to the media frenzy.
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Pretty sure that ship has sailed.


Sailed, hit an iceberg, caught fire, exploded and than sank in 290 meters of sharknado infested water.
 
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