Continuation Part Nine: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[LondonJohn]

I'm not sure I can help any further with your mystification over why a JREF poster (me) would comment in isolation about an avatar that appeared on the same page of a JREF thread that he was posting on. It will have to remain one of life's mysteries.

There are internet posters out there who regularly explode into fits of rage about stuff posted elsewhere on the net and the shortcomings of the offending authors - The members of a site called PMF or something (for example) are often the targets of these outbursts - but I am not one of those. Comrade platonov views that kind of stuff as revealing more about the source than the target.

And you are not defending the use of the avatar – merely something or other ?
What was the ludicrous (if humorous in its own special way) comparison to the Kennedy footage or the Vietnam photo about in that case.

Ah but you've commented upon your selective distaste at any photograph of the victim's body in this case before, haven't you? You even provided a link to it very recently

I had hoped I had explained my argument on this issue sufficiently, but it appears that my optimism was misplaced. So, once again: it's hypocritical and indicative of poor reasoning to express selective distaste/disgust at any photographs of the victim's body in this case, when such photographs form part of a reasoned, sober analysis of the case, and where other (far worse) photographs (and video) are routinely in circulation for many, many other incidents and victims. If that's not clear then I'm not sure I can offer any further clarification I'm afraid.....

I'm also bemused at your diversion into a non sequitur about attacking posts made on other forums and the individuals who made those posts. Is that relevant to the issue being discussed here? But I laughed at your faux-naive mention of "a site called PMF or something" - lovely stuff! Well done!

Oh and as others have said, I'm hoping you've also contacted that lovely Mr Maresca about his rather more inflammatory decision to project an extremely graphic picture of Kercher's body to the whole court (including the victim's parents) and to the whole media gallery? I'd be very surprised if you hadn't, given your views on the matter. Oh no wait, I wouldn't be surprised at all

 

[Vibio]

As predicted...

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The family of the murder victim.

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

The friends of the murder victim.

And now, to that list we can add the family of Raffaelle Sollecito.

Team Sollecito's Cristina Magnani tweets the following today:

"Ho pensato x 7anni che la KNOX fosse innocente. Alla luce dei fatti emersi nell'ultimo anno penso abbia avuto un ruolo"

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Can Raff's announcement be far behind?

 

[LondonJohn]

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The family of the murder victim.

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

The friends of the murder victim. (After extensive coaching and persuasion by prosecutors)

And now, to that list we can add the family one misguided non-immediate-family relative of Raffaelle Sollecito.

Team Sollecito's Cristina Magnani tweets the following today:

"Ho pensato x 7anni che la KNOX fosse innocente. Alla luce dei fatti emersi nell'ultimo anno penso abbia avuto un ruolo"

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Can Raff's announcement be far behind? No

Fixed that for you! (Strikeouts and bolded additions are mine). You're welcome

 

[acbytesla]

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The family of the murder victim.

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

The friends of the murder victim.

And now, to that list we can add the family of Raffaelle Sollecito.

Team Sollecito's Cristina Magnani tweets the following today:

"Ho pensato x 7anni che la KNOX fosse innocente. Alla luce dei fatti emersi nell'ultimo anno penso abbia avuto un ruolo"

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Can Raff's announcement be far behind?

And what does that matter? Magnani is just crazy. Raff is not going to say anything you haven't already heard. He has also said that Magnani doesn't speak for him.

Your jumping on this crazy woman's bandwagon just shows the weakness of the logic you use.

There is no evidence of Amanda Knox in that bedroom. None. The only evidence at all is the absurd bra clasp and that is from Raffaele not Amanda. So Raffaele somehow coming out and saying something against Amanda is the equivalent of coming out and saying he's guilty.

Not going to happen.

 

[Vibio]

Members of Team Sollecito... the lady on the left is Cristina (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/490092689049001984/photo/1

Cristina with Raff's sister Vanessa (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/489067201438449664/photo/1

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"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Mmmm.... I wonder where she got that crazy idea...

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[MDDVS]

What's your point Vibio?

 

[acbytesla]

Members of Team Sollecito... the lady on the left is Cristina (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/490092689049001984/photo/1

Cristina with Raff's sister Vanessa (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/489067201438449664/photo/1

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Mmmm.... I wonder where she got that crazy idea...

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KOO KOO. Not sure what is crazier Vibio. Magnani or the thinking skills applied to your post. Magnani is that crazy uncle that we're all embarrassed about. She digs the attention. Nothing else. She is not a part of Sollecito's legal team which has adamantly said that Raffaele is NOT changing his statement.

 

[LondonJohn]

KOO KOO. Not sure what is crazier Vibio. Magnani or the thinking skills applied to your post. Magnani is that crazy uncle that we're all embarrassed about. She digs the attention. Nothing else. She is not a part of Sollecito's legal team which has adamantly said that Raffaele is NOT changing his statement.

And not only that, but Sollecito has already specifically disavowed any and all opinion coming from Magnani!

Then again, some of the nutters "interpret" this as some sort of black ops scenario where Sollecito is merely claiming that Magnani in no way speaks for him, while he (or Bongiorno) is secretly authorising her to put out this sort of stuff. And there's really no point in trying to argue against that level of crazy

 

[Vibio]

Keep trying to convince yourselves...

 

[acbytesla]

Keep trying to convince yourselves...

Who's trying to convince anyone Vibio?? I know how to read, and you're a hopeless cause.

 

[acbytesla]

And not only that, but Sollecito has already specifically disavowed any and all opinion coming from Magnani!

Then again, some of the nutters "interpret" this as some sort of black ops scenario where Sollecito is merely claiming that Magnani in no way speaks for him, while he (or Bongiorno) is secretly authorising her to put out this sort of stuff. And there's really no point in trying to argue against that level of crazy

I keep trying to come up with a reason for this crazy loon's rantings. Does she really think that this will help Raffaele in any way? I know that some people are crazy like a fox. Donald Trump for example. I know he starts controversies just for the pub. It's rarely about what he says, it's about getting his name out there. Even bad pub is not really bad in his eyes. As long as it gets his name in front of the camera. So is there some reason in her insanity? Does she really think that the SC is going to acquit Raffaele and convict Amanda and because of the distance, Amanda will be safe?

If that happened, I'd say Italy is crazier than I thought.

 

[Kaosium]

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

Where's this come from? Cite please.

 

[Vibio]

Raff waiting to start his press conference. Note how he's trying to ignore the crazy, embarrassing Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ-YM6poJfE

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"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role"."

Mmmmm.... I wonder what those facts are...

 

[Kaosium]

Members of Team Sollecito... the lady on the left is Cristina (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/490092689049001984/photo/1

Cristina with Raff's sister Vanessa (July 2014)

https://twitter.com/cri_magnani/status/489067201438449664/photo/1

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"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Mmmm.... I wonder where she got that crazy idea...

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Twits tweeting twaddle.

 

[Desert Fox]

I'm not sure I can help any further with your mystification over why a JREF poster (me) would comment in isolation about an avatar that appeared on the same page of a JREF thread that he was posting on. It will have to remain one of life's mysteries.

There are internet posters out there who regularly explode into fits of rage about stuff posted elsewhere on the net and the shortcomings of the offending authors - The members of a site called PMF or something (for example) are often the targets of these outbursts - but I am not one of those. Comrade platonov views that kind of stuff as revealing more about the source than the target.

And you are not defending the use of the avatar – merely something or other ?
What was the ludicrous (if humorous in its own special way) comparison to the Kennedy footage or the Vietnam photo about in that case.

Maybe the picture is in bad taste. That is a valid criticism but what you are making of it is just nuts.

It pales in comparison however to the police / prosecutors going "Case closed" or when asked how sure in a scale of one to ten, saying "Eleven" when you have in effect no evidence of guilt.

Meredeth is dead. As is written in the bible in ecc 9-5:
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten

Yes, showing the body of her may causes so pain to the family but that is far less evil than locking innocent people up for decades. You argue as a poster for just that.

 

[Desert Fox]

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The family of the murder victim.

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

The friends of the murder victim.

And now, to that list we can add the family of Raffaelle Sollecito.

Team Sollecito's Cristina Magnani tweets the following today:

"Ho pensato x 7anni che la KNOX fosse innocente. Alla luce dei fatti emersi nell'ultimo anno penso abbia avuto un ruolo"

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Can Raff's announcement be far behind?

Err. . . .Where is the physical evidence of guilt?

 

[Bill Williams]

So, let's see now... among the people who believe Knox is guilty, there is:

The family of the murder victim.

The boyfriend of the murder victim.

The friends of the murder victim.

And now, to that list we can add the family of Raffaelle Sollecito.

Team Sollecito's Cristina Magnani tweets the following today:

"Ho pensato x 7anni che la KNOX fosse innocente. Alla luce dei fatti emersi nell'ultimo anno penso abbia avuto un ruolo"

"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role".

Can Raff's announcement be far behind?

Err. . . .Where is the physical evidence of guilt?

Two things. Apparently "belief in guilt" trumps any actual evidence of guilt.

Second. Raffaele was quite plain. He recently said that the only people qualified to talk on behalf of him were himself and Bongiorno. He then added that both he and Amanda were innocent.

However, the guilter "myth-making" continues. Now, apparently, there's a "Team Sollecito". To me this looks like a full blown PR effort to falsely portray what's being said in the Sollecito family, but then that's just me. Apparently, though, there is one (or two) people near the family who think that befriending guilters on twitter is a good thing for Raffaele.... which is perhaps why Raffaele said what he'd said.

The issues within his family are well documented in his book, and have remained unchanged since 2008. There is no "Team Sollecito", yet the term is quite catchy I'll admit within the guilter PR effort.

BTW - an Italian tabloid picked up the false Ground Report article, you know: the one about how Amanda was going to try to pin the whole thing on Raffaele. When Ground Report asked for and checked the "sources" for this factoid, Ground Report pulled the article as false.... apparently, this did not stop the Italian tabloid from passing on the factoid anyway.

Such is the PR effort from guilters.

 

[Bill Williams]

Raff waiting to start his press conference. Note how he's trying to ignore the crazy, embarrassing Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ-YM6poJfE

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"I've thought for the last 7 years that Knox was innocent, but in the light of facts that have emerged in the least year, I think she had a role"."

Mmmmm.... I wonder what those facts are...

First you just make up a factoid about Meredith's boyfriend, now you just make up a quote, and don't attribute it to anyone.

Citation please.

 

[Bill Williams]

Such is the PR effort from guilters.

Crap - now I'm quoting myself!

The first time I saw the PR effort was the Hallowe'en after the two students had been freed. Amanda dressed as a Seattle Sounder Soccer player to go to a party.

She was stalked by a tabloid photographer. Despite the big honking Seattle Sounder scarf around her neck....

..... this was portrayed as Amanda dressing as a cat burglar; and was spun as showing her lack of concern for the Kercher family - dressing as a cat burglar on the anniversary of Meredith's death.

Except absolutely none of this PR effort to smear Amanda Knox was true. There wasn't an element of it which was anything other than a tabloid-style lie. Wrong day, wrong costume.... by why let that interfere with a grand invention.

But it did show the lengths some will go, to promulgate this guilter PR effort. It sells papers.... and it gets the guilters yapping in their guilt sites, unopposed by any rational thought.

 

[Vibio]

First you just make up a factoid about Meredith's boyfriend, now you just make up a quote, and don't attribute it to anyone.

Citation please.

I've made up that recently tweeted quote ? Really?

And as for Giacomo Silenzi... see his interview for the Daily Mail.

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