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Dowsing by a Skeptic

Before any sane person sits an exam they make sure they have studied the subject properly. I'm still learning with full intent of taking the examination. Takes time.

Why not just ask your rods?
 
The only dowser I know with any length of experience does have a specialty, he specializes in medical dowsing. He works for a doctor who is also a dowser by verifying his diagnosis.

Are you serious? I'm sure those spoil sports at the Saskatchewan Medical Association would like to hear about that. Sounds like grounds for a malpractice hearing to me. It certainly would be here in Ontario.
 
That's a good plan.

I'm pleased to see your adventurous spirit and creativity on display. I remember when I was first wooed by science - it was all curiosity and discovery, with regular doses of amazement. Quite wonderful. Now, however, there's this trend toward regimentation and lock-steppery I find disturbing. Real out-of-the-box thinking like yours isn't as admired as it should be.

Goest thou and dowse my friend. Dowse for your own pleasure, and fie on all the naysayers and linear thinkers. Don't let small minds grind you into the dust of despair. Dowse away, and God bless you sir!

Yep, those laws of physics are very unforgiving but reality plays rough so it's understandable that some retreat to fantasy land.
 
Me: Doc, it hurts right here

Dousing Doc: Mmmm.... Might be a kidney stone. Can't really tell. Nurse, get me the douser, I need a differential diagnosis, stat!

Me: But Doc, it really hurts, can't you just ask the dousing rods?
 
His wife hid his cell phone, and made him eat his sandwiches and tea in the barn. I think he's busy consulting his rods.
 
Yep, those laws of physics are very unforgiving but reality plays rough so it's understandable that some retreat to fantasy land.

Reality is many things, but only rarely admirable. Generally, it's what was going to happen anyway.
 
Double-blind test under controlled conditions, as has been explained to you many times.

Had you read the other thread yet, you would have found several explanations of useful protocols.

Ah...I think I've seen this problem before.

He went to a hypnotist, who implanted the following suggestion:

"Whenever you hear the phrase 'double-blind test', you will fall into a deep slumber. When you awake, you will remember nothing."
 
SaskMick, once you have proven to yourself that you can dowse, what do you plan to do with this ability?
 
My father believed that he could dowse. I was a young teenager when I realized that I could not repeat my hits without external cues. In other words, let's say you felt that you detected water at one spot. Naturally, if you walked over that same track, you would expect the same hit if dowsing were real. But, of course, you already know where you got the hit so, not surprisingly, you do. However, if you are blindfolded and go over the same track, your ability to repeat the hit only works as well as you can estimate your position. If you are led around by someone first so that you don't know your starting position then your hits will be random. My father talked about an occasion when a construction crew was digging but couldn't find a buried line. Naturally, it isn't good when you accidentally tear out buried gas or water lines while digging so this was important. But they couldn't find it. My father then dowsed it and the line was where he indicated. I doubt my father had any special ability. My guess would be that he was able to mentally connect two points above ground and estimate where the line was likely to be.

I used to have a Manx cat. The rounded head, arched back, stocky body, dense underfur, and lack of a tail are classic Manx characteristics. You can see that even in December 2002, my wife took enough medications to require a pill organizer. My wife had congestive heart failure and this caused severe chest pains at times. This was initially controlled with nitroglycerin pills. However, when they got worse in 2005, I had to give her liquid morphine. The thing is that she wouldn't always tell me when she was having chest pains and she was very good at hiding it. However, I noticed that my cat which was usually on or near my wife's hospital bed would act agitated so then I knew when my wife was having chest pains. I have no idea how my cat could detect this but I'm quite certain that she was not psychic. It might have been smell because people tend to sweat more when they are in pain or it might have been her breathing or perhaps both. After my wife died, I wouldn't let the cat on my bed while I was sleeping. However, when I woke up in the morning, she would jump up on the bed. I noticed that she waited right next to the bed where she couldn't see me. Yet, even if I didn't move, she jumped up on the bed right after I woke up. My best guess would be that there was a change in the sound of my breathing that would tell her that I was awake.

Some people have claimed that their dogs are psychic and can tell when they are coming home. I've even seen some casual experiments that tended to confirm this. Yet, when more controlled testing was done, this mysterious ability disappeared. Naturally, if you like the idea that your dog is psychic then you tend to favor less controlled experiments that don't disprove your beliefs. Higher up on the delusion scale would be people who believe that they are pet psychics. This was never more clear than on one episode of The Dog Whisperer where Cesar worked with a woman who insisted that she was a pet psychic and could tell what the dog was thinking. She kept up a steady monologue of what she claimed were the dogs thoughts. Oddly enough though, she was completely unable to either predict or modify the dog's behavior despite what she claimed was her deep understanding of the dog. She got it wrong again and again and again but that didn't dent her belief that she could tell what her dog was thinking.

Seeing an unexplained result does happen from time to time. Thinking that this could be an example of something paranormal is also not an uncommon belief. This usually doesn't hurt anything. However, someone cannot insist that their beliefs are based on solid proof while carefully avoiding rigorous testing that could potentially disprove their beliefs.
 

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Excellent post. The Dog Whisperer remains the sole show of that type that I can stomach. Cesar knew what he was doing.

ETA: Sorry about your wife.
 
SaskMick, you must apply for the Million Dollar Challenge immediately. It was designed to be a "put up or shut up" vehicle. Until you win the prize, your claims and protestations are meaningless here and to scientists worldwide.
 
Am I naive to hope that SaskMick is spending his time away from the JREF by doing a double blinded, controlled test of his dowsing as suggested here? If so, I hope he returns to report his results whether or not they proved his theory.
 
Some people have claimed that their dogs are psychic and can tell when they are coming home. I've even seen some casual experiments that tended to confirm this. Yet, when more controlled testing was done, this mysterious ability disappeared. Naturally, if you like the idea that your dog is psychic then you tend to favor less controlled experiments that don't disprove your beliefs. Higher up on the delusion scale would be people who believe that they are pet psychics. This was never more clear than on one episode of The Dog Whisperer where Cesar worked with a woman who insisted that she was a pet psychic and could tell what the dog was thinking. She kept up a steady monologue of what she claimed were the dogs thoughts. Oddly enough though, she was completely unable to either predict or modify the dog's behavior despite what she claimed was her deep understanding of the dog. She got it wrong again and again and again but that didn't dent her belief that she could tell what her dog was thinking.
Dogs aren't psychic, they've just got good ears.
We used to live out in the middle of no damn where. Our dog would start barking and throwing a fit about ten minutes before my dad would drive up in his car. One Saturday, My dad and I were up on the roof fixing the TV antenna. Mom had gone to town to do some shopping. The dog started barking and throwing a fit, and up on the roof, my dad and I could hear a car on the highway a good ways off. The cars sounds got closer, and it was mom coming home. The dog could just hear the car from further away than we could. Being up on the roof gave us enough of an advantage that we could hear the car about when the dog did.
 
Am I naive to hope that SaskMick is spending his time away from the JREF by doing a double blinded, controlled test of his dowsing as suggested here? If so, I hope he returns to report his results whether or not they proved his theory.
I am sorry to have to inform you that you are hopelessly, terminally naive.

This seems like an appropriate moment to ask if you would perhaps be interested in purchasing a bridge in New York. I can sell it to you cheap. Small, used bills only. You can recoup your investment simply by placing toll booths on all the lanes and charging people for the privelege of using your bridge. If the police bother you, simply show them this bill of sale I've given you with someone else's name on it.
 
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