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Wikipedia on Asperger Syndrome (AS)...

...Individuals with Asperger syndrome (AS) may develop problems in their abilities to engage successfully in interpersonal relationships...

...People with AS report a feeling of being detached against their will from the world around them ("on the outside looking in"). They may have difficulty finding a life partner or getting married due to poor social skills. The complexity and inconsistency of the social world can pose an extreme challenge for individuals with AS...

...A lack of demonstrated cognitive empathy has a significant impact on aspects of communal living for persons with Asperger syndrome. Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity (social "games" give-and-take mechanic), and impaired nonverbal behaviors in areas such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.

People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others compared to those with other, more debilitating, forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd". This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive. However, not all individuals with AS will approach others. Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like.

The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context, where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people's emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations. People with AS may analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive. Childhood desire for companionship can become numbed through a history of failed social encounters.

The hypothesis that individuals with AS are predisposed to violent or criminal behavior has been investigated, but is not supported by data. More evidence suggests children with AS are victims rather than victimizers. A 2008 review found that an overwhelming number of reported violent criminals with AS had coexisting psychiatric disorders such as schizoaffective disorder...


I know that others have said that we don't really know his status by professional evaluation but I am going to assume that his father said "Asperger Syndrome" because he had actually been professionally diagnosed with this.

What is most striking to me (putting aside the insanity of the content) is that he is extremely articulate in written and verbal communication. As if he were a professional writer or verbal communicator.
 
My money, the more I read his manifesto, is on narcissistic personality disorder being a primary factor in this. He seems like a textbook case, with the varying episodes of grandeur and self loathing, and the resulting rage and feelings of injustice.
 
I have to question that. Physically it is known that having sex in some case helps avoid cancer (men, testicular cancer for example). Psychologically, some people losing their hability to have sex without losing the sex drive (men , prostate ablation for example) get depression and may lead to suicide.

ETA: masturbation / solo count as sex by the way. So if you meant "sex with a partner" you are right.
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Evaluating solo versus with, the end release is the same.
I'm wondering if solo needs to be promoted more, than disparaged?
 
This guy seems like a dog who chases a car. What was he going to do with a beautiful, blonde, white girl if one of them reciprocated his interest and fulfilled his desires? Would his life really be improved? Would he have stopped coveting and being jealous and obsessive? Would he have fulfilled her desires? It seems like he would probably just have new disappointments, new problems, and new complaints with his beautiful, blonde, white girl. What would the dog do with the car if it caught it?
 
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Dude may or may not have been classifiable as an Aspergers sufferer, but if he was, it still wouldn't crack top five on the list of things that were wrong with him.
 
Well I was really shy. That's the main reason I had such a car and never had sex. Are you lumping "shy" in with MASSIVE MENTAL ILLNESS?

This. I know one girl who never kissed someone and she's in her 30s and looking really good, is smart, etc. She just doesn't feel comfy in romantic situations and is shy and all that. So she gets her fix by talking to guys online, which is how I know her.

Some people can be perfectly fine and never have had any romantic experience.

This guy seems like a dog who chases a car. What was he going to do with a beautiful, blonde, white girl if one of them reciprocated his interest and fulfilled his desires? Would his life really be improved? Would he have stopped coveting and being jealous and obsessive? Would he have fulfilled her desires? It seems like he would probably just have new disappointments, new problems, and new complaints with his beautiful, blonde, white girl. What would the dog do with the car if it caught it?

I guarantee this punk is a wife beater in the making. The slightest mistake she makes in a relationship would've had severe consequences cause she didn't worship him enough. He would've treated her like one of his possessions.
 
I guarantee this punk is a wife beater in the making. The slightest mistake she makes in a relationship would've had severe consequences cause she didn't worship him enough. He would've treated her like one of his possessions.

His descriptions of people in the manifesto are practically one-dimensional and he himself appears to have no personality and no identity beyond obsession and contempt. It reminds me of American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis:

“Everything failed to subdue me. Soon everything seemed dull: another sunrise, the lives of heroes, falling in love, war, the discoveries people made about each other. The only thing that didn't bore me, obviously enough, was how much money Tim Price made, and yet in its obviousness it did. There wasn't a clear, identifiable emotion within me, except for greed and, possibly, total disgust. I had all the characteristics of a human being - flesh, blood, skin, hair - but my depersonalization was so intense, had gone so deep, that the normal ability to feel compassion had been eradicated, the victim of a slow, purposeful erasure. I was simply imitating reality, a rough resemblance of a human being, with only a dim corner of my mind functioning. Something horrible was happening and yet I couldn't figure out why - I couldn't put my finger on it.”

"…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there...My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. "

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2270060-american-psycho
 
Aspergers may be sufficient to prevent the formation of any platonic or romantic relationships for some. That alone might cause a cascade of subsequent manifestations of antisocial thoughts and behaviors for some. I'm saying it might be the root of all his evils.
 
This guy seems like a dog who chases a car. What was he going to do with a beautiful, blonde, white girl if one of them reciprocated his interest and fulfilled his desires? Would his life really be improved? Would he have stopped coveting and being jealous and obsessive? Would he have fulfilled her desires? It seems like he would probably just have new disappointments, new problems, and new complaints with his beautiful, blonde, white girl. What would the dog do with the car if it caught it?

I think that a more apt description would be that he was a dog that was waiting for the car to come to him.
He was utterly unable to even talk to women that he was interested in.
He seemed to be labouring under the delusion that he was so magnificent and wonderful that the objects of his desire should come to him and throw themselves at his feet.
 
I have to question that. Physically it is known that having sex in some case helps avoid cancer (men, testicular cancer for example). Psychologically, some people losing their hability to have sex without losing the sex drive (men , prostate ablation for example) get depression and may lead to suicide.

ETA: masturbation / solo count as sex by the way. So if you meant "sex with a partner" you are right.
Masturbation is not sex. If a Dr. asks you if you are sexually active they are not referring to masturbation.


If a guy or gal is asked by some friends if they had sex last night after their date, they will not say yes if they merely masturbated after their date went home.


I'm sure you can go to some websites and find many definitions for sex, but commonly I think we all know that the term you used above - "having sex" - especially within the context of this case, means sexual intercourse.


If masturbation is sex then I'm Casanova.
 
Aspergers may be sufficient to prevent the formation of any platonic or romantic relationships for some. That alone might cause a cascade of subsequent manifestations of antisocial thoughts and behaviors for some. I'm saying it might be the root of all his evils.

But the antisocial personality traits that he exhibited aren't particularly correlated with autism spectrum disorders.
 
But the antisocial personality traits that he exhibited aren't particularly correlated with autism spectrum disorders.

It's most likely to be an array of disorders, IMO. AS may have been the one that doctors could identify in their clinic and hence the only disorder that was specifically named by his father.

One could ask why the father didn't cite Narcissistic Disorder when that seems so evident in his writing and talking. It's possible that he never told anybody that he was a great and beautiful person until he was doing his final goodbye communications.
 
People seem to misunderstand psychology as if it were a hard science where you can find out whatever disorder they have based on testing. You can't hide high blood pressure from your doctor, but you can hide tons of disorders by simply not being truthful.

This is why psychological testing demands anonymity so people are willing to disclose facts about themselves to be used as data.

If no one knows you're answering, a person may answer truthfully that they masturbate while thinking of their brother 5 times a week.

A counselor would need their client to completely trust them to disclose that kind of information.

Understanidng this, it's easy to understand why narcissism can be easily missed by a therapist.
 
But the antisocial personality traits that he exhibited aren't particularly correlated with autism spectrum disorders.

You seem to be implying your opinions should carry great weight in this matter as though they were the opinions of a highly trained mental health professional. Are you in fact a highly trained mental health professional? I'm just curious. :confused:
 
I think that a more apt description would be that he was a dog that was waiting for the car to come to him.
He was utterly unable to even talk to women that he was interested in.
He seemed to be labouring under the delusion that he was so magnificent and wonderful that the objects of his desire should come to him and throw themselves at his feet.

So lets say it had happened. A beautiful, blonde, white girl has fallen in love with the supreme gentlemen. What next? It seems like his fixation on virginity and women was peripheral to the larger problem of his feelings of isolation and disconnection. He appeared to have no concept of other people. He talks a lot about hating certain types of people but he also wanted to be like them. He seemed to think a beautiful, blonde, white girlfriend was the remedy for his anguish.
 
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People seem to misunderstand psychology as if it were a hard science where you can find out whatever disorder they have based on testing. You can't hide high blood pressure from your doctor, but you can hide tons of disorders by simply not being truthful.

This is why psychological testing demands anonymity so people are willing to disclose facts about themselves to be used as data.

If no one knows you're answering, a person may answer truthfully that they masturbate while thinking of their brother 5 times a week.

A counselor would need their client to completely trust them to disclose that kind of information.

Understanidng this, it's easy to understand why narcissism can be easily missed by a therapist.

There's a story author Lawrence Miles talks about getting a psychiatric evaluation in which he was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Then he mentally reviewed the evaluation and pointed out to the doctor that when he'd been talking about the "big brains" that controlled the world he didn't mean it literally and was instead talking about people such as the Prime Minister and the POTUS in a metaphorical way.
 

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