zen

[ynot]

fishbait-are you not a failed human?
If not, teach me how to be human, please...

Being human is the default consequence of being a human (no teaching or zen required).

What is a "failed human"? What is a "succeeded human"?

 

[nowornever]

Just do it! Don't check!

Crimresearch-face before birth???
"When you die, where will you go?" - That's the question, and Seung Sahn gave the answer. Do you know the answer?

 

[Agatha]

What is a "failed human"?

 

[nowornever]

Life will not wait for you. Hurry up! Hurry up!

A succeeded human is an enlightened human. A human who understand life and death. Do you understand yourself? Why do you write every day?

 

[crimresearch]

Crimresearch-face before birth???
"When you die, where will you go?" - That's the question, and Seung Sahn gave the answer. Do you know the answer?

Yeah... 'face before birth' is a famous Zen koan, that anyone who had studied would recognize.

Someone being conned by a fake, like SS, would of course have nothing but empty challenges generated by their monkey mind.

 

[nowornever]

where will you go?

Student: When you die, where will you go?
Seung Sahn: To the cemetery!

 

[nowornever]

Don't make anything!

The world has never said that SS was a fake!

 

[Hokulele]

Do you understand yourself?

No, but it keeps things interesting!

I spent several years practicing Zen meditation. There are bits that I still find useful and bits that are silly. If you can't determine which are which, you may need to stop meditating on life and death and start experiencing it.

 

[Brainache]

The most popular koan in zen is:
WHO ARE YOU?

Maybe, but I prefer "Won't get fooled again".

To me, Zen is the sound of a tree falling when no one can hear it, and the applause of a one armed man who is one with nothingness.

Whoo this cryptic mystical crap is fun!

 

[nowornever]

Teach me.

Hokulele-thank you for your teaching.
I will try to experience it.

 

[ynot]

A succeeded human is an enlightened human.

I've lost weight lately.

A human who understand life and death.

Life is the state of not being dead. Death is the state of not being alive.

Do you understand yourself?

"Yourself" is the reflexive form of "you".

Why do you write every day?

I didn't write "every day" . . . you did.

 

[ynot]

The world has never said that SS was a fake!

The world has never said anything.

 

[nowornever]

1 hand clapping

Brainache-but I passed the koan "WHAT IS THE SOUND OF 1 CLAPPING HAND" during a personal interview with a zen teacher while a retreat. Have you passed it?

 

[nowornever]

Why do you breathe every day?

ynot-I write every day FOR YOU.

 

[Agatha]

Does passing a koan make your eyes water?

 

[crimresearch]

Does passing a koan make your eyes water?

Not if you swallow enough koolaid...

 

[Brainache]

Brainache-but I passed the koan "WHAT IS THE SOUND OF 1 CLAPPING HAND" during a personal interview with a zen teacher while a retreat. Have you passed it?

Yeah, it's like "cl, cl, cl,..." or possibly "ap, ap, ap..." depending which hand you use.

 

[mikeyx]

Being human is the default consequence of being a human (no teaching or zen required).

What is a "failed human"? What is a "succeeded human"?

YOU used the term debunker, answer him.

 

[nowornever]

every challenge is a koan

Agatha-passing a koan makes me experience daily living better. After passing "HANGING ON A TREE KOAN" I changed completely.

 

[nowornever]

What is life?

The story entitled "Thirty birds"

Once upon a time there were 100 birds who wanted to find out what the truth is. They heard about a sage living on the peak of a mountain who knew what life was about. They flew. On the way 7o of them saw interesting things (a beautiful partner, a beautiful place, a beautiful job, a beautiful forum etc. etc.) and stayed there. The remaining 30 eventually got to the mountain peak and saw...but instead of seeing the sage to tell them what the truth was, they saw a big mirror in which they saw the thirty birds, themselves.