Your thoughts on Astral Projection.

At the first page of this thread, post no. 30 you all will be able to see that I predicted the above discussions.

Uh... Wait untill Interesting Ian finds this thread...
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I am better than Edgar Cayce and I want my 1 000 000 dollars.
 
Rcintron said:
A friend of mine was telling me about a "discovery channel" episode where astral projection was "proven". Anybody know anything about this?
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I recall something with a girl who read a hidden 5-digit number. She couldn't control the direction of her float, so it took her several nights to "get in position". My cynical gut says she stalled until she managed to sneak a peek.
 
Interesting Ian said:
They might well be well educated, but I cannot agree with you that they are "VERY intelligent". Indeed I have been absolutely flabbergasted that the good majority of skeptics on here are apparently unable to understand the most simple philosophical ideas.
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I've seemed to notice that this is because your philosophical ideas tend to be incoherent.

And as I've said before, I think philosophy has become obsolete.

Interesting Ian said:
Yes that's right. At one stage almost everyone got their post number knocked down. My post count was knocked down by 6500 posts -- vastly more than anyone else. I suspect that this was not just coincidence. I suspect they didn't want a non-skeptic to top the list for being the most prolific poster.
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Then it's about time someone knocks Iacchus down from his 10,000 post count!

Interesting Ian said:
That's precisely the opposite to me. I know nothing. Skeptics apparently "know" everything.
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No, but we know SOMETHING. In fact, we know quite a lot. The old saying is true: the more you know, the more you realise you don't know much. But that doesn't mean you know nothing.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Obviously they don't advance my argument. I'm simply stating the way things are. It must be a pretty piss poor feeling of superiority you claim I feel given that most skeptics completely fail to understand the most elementary arguments imaginable. They don't even try. They just assume they are correct about everything. It's tedious beyond belief.
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Ian. Let's be reasonable for a few moments : have you ever considered, ever, that you might be the source of the confusion ? Wouldn't it be far more likely that ONE person is wrong than to believe that EVERYONE else is either stupid or willfully ignorant ?

AmyWilson said:
I'll try the test everyone keeps talking about. :)

Thanks. :)
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That's a step in the right direction, Amy. Just make sure you get it right, and make several attemps.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
I thought the word was interestingified.

~~ Paul
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No, I think ianized is a better word to describe the process. As described here by Belz:

Belz... said:
If it's anything like ionisation, ianisation makes threads lose their coherence.
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After my observations on this forum I believe I may be able to prove that exposure to ianizing radiation can cause thread mutation. Though, I’ll require more time and ample funding to gather an appropriate amount of evidence. :)

AmyWilson said:
I'll try the test everyone keeps talking about. :)

Thanks. :)
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Glad to hear it. Please take care to be unbiased in your testing. It is often human nature to deceive ourselves, but this won’t help you any. However, if you can be honest in your testing of this ability and find you are able to project yourself, please apply for Randi’s challenge. There are a great many people that would love to see that this is real.
 
I will tell everyone all the secrets of astral projection tonight at 10 p.m. EST, on the dark side of the moon. See you there.

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Amy, hello.

I used to try to astral project way back in the 1970s. :eek:

You say you can't project at will, but I will bet my psychic powers against Randi's million dollars that there are websites on this newfangled internet thing that explain the exact procedures to project at will. I read similar instructions back in the 70s on nonvolatile storage devices (a.k.a. books). So check the internet, find the recipe, and just follow it, and take the test that has been suggested here.

You said people used to believe the Earth was flat, in the belief this somehow was evidence that astral projection is real.

Okay.

Did you know that I can communicate with blue fairies on the moon? What? You say there's no such thing as blue fairies on the moon? Well, they said the Earth was flat once, too.

See how that works? Not very well.

Good luck. Stick around. And above all, keep asking questions.
 
By the way, Amy, how do we know the Earth isn't flat? Can you think of two ways to prove it is round without going into space and looking at it?
 
I don't think that astral projection is real, but if I knew a annoying person that believed it, I might sell them a 'Astral Projection Jammer'.
 
AWPrime said:
I don't think that astral projection is real, but if I knew a annoying person that believed it, I might sell them a 'Astral Projection Jammer'.
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Let's do it! I want in. We can sell it to the US gov't to thwart remote viewing by our enemies and then we'll have "credibility" to mass market it to the public.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Let's do it! I want in. We can sell it to the US gov't to thwart remote viewing by our enemies and then we'll have "credibility" to mass market it to the public.
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Yes, we must do it. We will become rich. A consumer is born every minute.
 
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AmyWilson said:
I'll try the test everyone keeps talking about. :)
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Well done Amy, we'll all be interested to hear your results.
Naturally, I think the result will be negative on the astral projection front but I could be wrong.

However, I would just like to point out that some people find it very hard to let go a belief in something, especially if it makes them feel special or different. Dowsers are probably the best example of this. Any dowser who tries a double blind experiment can see he has no ability, but they almost always return to their lives, convinced that they do.

So just in case the test you try shows that you are not in fact astrally projecting, try to remember the following:
1) You are willing to test your beliefs. That's something most people who believe in psychic stuff would never do. That makes you special.
2) You can lucid dream! Aside from being incredibly fun, you can train yourself to do that regularly. It's not a common skill at all, either. That makes you special.

Best of luck!
 
AmyWilson said:
I'll try the test everyone keeps talking about. :)

Thanks. :)
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Amy,

I'm glad you're willing to test your OBE hypothesis. A word of warning, though: No one is likely to be convinced if the relationship between what you see and the actual target is merely symbolic. Human beings are so good at drawing symbolic connections between unconnected phenomena that you could take any two objects at random and find some sort of connection. For instance, if you see a flower, and the target is actually a guilloutine, you could say, "Marie Antionette was killed by a guilloutine, and she was the flower of Austria." It doesn't make much sense, but it sounds good and convinces many people. Skeptics take a little more convincing, however.
 
Amy, I'm glad you're willing to test your OBE hypothesis. A word of warning, though: No one is likely to be convinced if the relationship between what you see and the actual target is merely symbolic. Human beings are so good at drawing symbolic connections between unconnected phenomena that you could take any two objects at random and find some sort of connection.
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I couldn't resist. :)
 
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